My journey to a free mind
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The Arabs are the persons that should interpret the verses and explain to people
No. Every believing, thinking person is asked to reflect on the Qur'an (and the world around us).
The verses above clearly show this. There is nothing in the Qur'an that says only Arabs are allowed to interpret it. Neither does it say that being a native Arab is a precondition for understanding God's message.
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Leyna, here's another verse to help our Arabocentric friend
41/44 Had We sent this as a Qur'an (in the language) other than Arabic, they would have said "Why are not its verses explained in detail? What! (a Book) not in Arabic and (a Messenger an Arab?" Say "It is a Guide and a Healing to those who believe; and for those who believe not, there is a deafness in their ears, and it is blindness in their (eyes) They are (as it were) being called from a place far distant!"
That's why, despite the fact the Arab sunnis know what 'laa ikaraha fee ad-deen' means, they reject it and call to kill people who leave Islam!
Thereformer probably forgot that TILL TODAY, the Arabs are arguing over what Alif Laam Meem means! They disagree all the time about meaning of words even ROOTS of words. But that's ok, cuz they're Arabs right? Talk about racism
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No. Every believing, thinking person is asked to reflect on the Qur'an (and the world around us).
Every believing who studied the language and the fiqh of Quran and sunnah , not every nuts including you and your prophet khalifah and your leader of "" .
did you study the language ? did you study Quran (the Fiqh of Quran )? did you study the sunnah (the fiqh of sunnah)? I don't think so >>> your teacher is the Satan.
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Reformer, can you please tell us from ur 'fiqh al-quran' how many ayat are MANSUKH? I didn't think so, lol.
Perhaps you should it call 'ghair fiqh al-quran'?
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Thereformer probably forgot that TILL TODAY, the Arabs are arguing over what Alif Laam Meem means! They disagree all the time about meaning of words even ROOTS of words. But that's ok, cuz they're Arabs right? Talk about racism P
"The difference is a virtue" I think you didn't learn this in school . And why arabs disagree because everyone of Arabs has its own language , there are seven way and letters(not letters literally)of Arabic language in reading it and interpret the word, you don't know these things, try to keep your fingers in your nose instead of the keyboard.
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Reformer, can you please tell us from ur 'fiqh al-quran' how many ayat are MANSUKH? I didn't think so, lol.
Until you understand the word Mansukh, you'll find the answer yourself . hmm
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"The difference is a virtue" I think you didn't learn this in school . And why arabs disagree because everyone of Arabs has its own language , there are seven way and letters(not letters literally)of Arabic language in reading it and interpret the word, you don't know these things, try to keep your fingers in your nose instead of the keyboard.
No wonder the Arabs have made such a mess of it then, they cant even understand their own language never mind interpret what God meant by His words without hadith to follow so they can understand it WRONGLY
You deny every verse thats put to you yet you have not managed to say WHY
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Virtue? So for YOU GUYS its a virtue but when we disagree, its from shaitan?
Your differences show that you guys don't own a single truth. We don't either but it's ok, we don't claim to be God's chosen race. Sorry mate, you go find out a mutawatir meaning for Alif laam meem and i'll become a sunni.
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Every believing who studied the language and the fiqh of Quran and sunnah
No, the verses are clear. That is not what they say. If you believe those verses are lying, then please post one that says "in order to reflect on the Qur'an you have to be an Arab, and you must have studied language, fiqh and sunnah first."
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No, the verses are clear. That is not what they say. If you believe those verses are lying, then please post one that says "in order to reflect on the Qur'an you have to be an Arab, and you must have studied language, fiqh and sunnah first."
I think he will only find that IN hadith rotfl
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Reformer, why are you hiding from the mansukh question? Mansukh simply means abrogated. There are 3 kinds of mansukh
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When the ayah AND the hukm are completely forgotten
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When the ayah is forgotten but the hukm remains (like the bogus ayat ar-rajm which a GOAT ate from under the Prophet's bed)
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When the ayah remains but the hukm is forgotten (like 'laa ikraha fee ad-deen' which you guys cancel out with ayat as-saif)
The truth is, there is NO agreement on the mansukh ayat. Some say 5, others say 255. You guys have played with the Quran and made it like a copy-paste book. Congratulations!
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From the FIRST sentence this is already WRONG. As-sunnah is the second source of islamic legislation after the book of Allah, Reformer pastes. Quran says
Say "Shall I seek for judge other than Allah? - when He it is Who hath sent unto you the Book, explained in detail."...6/114
So effecitvely, if you take another source as divine, you are taking ANOTHER judge besides Allah.
Reformer, quran answers you too well, you may as well give up.
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So effecitvely, if you take another source as divine, you are taking ANOTHER judge besides Allah.
Reformer, quran answers you too well, you may as well give up.You just translated the first sentence without even tried to translate all of it with understanding it as well, however let's use your approach .
God oredered us to pray and do other things isn't ? can you please tell me how do you pray ? and how much of " " we have ?
I'll go step by step with you and let's see who is going to give up me or you .
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You just translated the first sentence without even tried to translate all of it with understanding it as well, however let's use your approach
You're absolutely right. Can you translate the ayat for me completely. Break it down word for word and actually start from ayah 112 and end at ayah 116, please. Please use your status as God's chosen race to explain the Quran to a poor ajami like myself.
God oredered us to pray and do other things isn't ? can you please tell me how do you pray ? and how much of " " we have ?
Sorry, I don't believe in your 5 obligatory prayers. That was invented as part of the mi'raj myth where Muhammad rode a donkey to the sky and BARGAINED with God like in a fish market. God said '50', Muhammad said 'ok', then Musa told him 'no, too much'. This is the basis of your obligatory prayers. This prayers is not taught in the Quran at all. I therefore don't follow it.
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You already asked this question several times.   ) )
I've never talked about prayer , I talked with Ayisha and I've proved that the prayers are five from Quran . You can ask her .
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I've never talks about prayer , I talked with Ayisha and I've proved that the prayers are five from Quran . You can ask her .
stop changing the subject when you are backed into a corner! Do you think we dont notice?
You didnt answer this
From the FIRST sentence this is already WRONG. As-sunnah is the second source of islamic legislation after the book of Allah, Reformer pastes. Quran says
Say "Shall I seek for judge other than Allah? - when He it is Who hath sent unto you the Book, explained in detail."...6/114
So effecitvely, if you take another source as divine, you are taking ANOTHER judge besides Allah.
Reformer, quran answers you too well, you may as well give up.