Quranists became Quranists because of their lack of understanding Quran.

unknownuser

if the adultery from someone married ?

these quranists are hopless. I asked the same question to a quranist and he said "read the story of Moses when he said to his people to sacrifice cow, and how his people start asking him the color, the age, and everything." ??? nope

Leyna

because men are attracted to women more than women are attracted to men!

Aha. hypno

So you are saying a woman can't get turned on by a naked man in a shower? hmm hmm hmm

unknownuser

Aha. hypno

So you are saying a woman can't get turned on by a naked man in a shower? hmm hmm hmm

you are a woman you tell me?

Ayisha

Aha. hypno

So you are saying a woman can't get turned on by a naked man in a shower? hmm hmm hmm

oooh they can. Hubby just had a NEKED shower with the door open! http//foolstown.com/sm/obm.gif

Thereformer1

Salam thereformer,

Wa Alaykom Asalam .

Bukhari Volumn 001, Book 008, Hadith Number 446.

Narated By 'Aisha Barira came to seek my help regarding her manumission. I told herself you like I would pay your price to your masters but your Al-Wala(1) would be for me." Her masters said, "If you like, you can pay what remains (of the price of her manumission), (Sufyan the sub-narrator once said), or if you like you can manumit her, but her (inheritance) Al-Wala would be for us. "When Allah's Apostle came, I spoke to him about it. He said, "Buy her and manumit her. No doubt Al-Wala(1) is for the manumitted." Then Allah's Apostle stood on the pulpit (or Allah's Apostle ascended the pulpit as Sufyan once said), and said, "What about some people who impose conditions which are not present in Allah's Book (Laws)? Whoever imposes conditions which are not in Allah's Book (Laws), his conditions will be invalid even if he imposed them a hundred times."

first of all do you know the hadith is about what ?
second of all I didn't find any thing strange in your red bolded sentence . Can you ask your question ?
this the hadith in Arabic and he is talking about "

Bukhari Volumn 003, Book 034, Hadith Number 364.

Narated By 'Aisha Allah's Apostle came to me and I told him about the slave-girl (Buraira) Allah's Apostle said, "Buy and manumit her, for the Wala is for the one who manumits." In the evening the Prophet got up and glorified Allah as He deserved and then said, "Why do some people impose conditions which are not present in Allah's Book (Laws)? Whoever imposes such a condition as is not in Allah's Laws, then that condition is invalid even if he imposes one hundred conditions, for Allah's conditions are more binding and reliable."

see above . The prophet is talking about conditions that have been dictated from the family of Burayra that were dectating conditions against the shari'ah (Quran shari'ah), so here God said do not accept these conditions that are against sharii'ah of Quran . and by the way the subject is about " ".

Bukhari Volumn 003, Book 034, Hadith Number 377.

Narated By 'Urwa 'Aisha said, "Buraira came to me and said, 'I have agreed with my masters to pay them nine Uqiyas (of gold) (in installments) one Uqiya per year; please help me.' I said, 'I am ready to pay the whole amount now provided your masters agree that your Wala will be for me.' So, Buraira went to her masters and told them about that offer but they refused to accept it. She returned, and at that time, Allah's Apostle was sitting (present). Buraira said, 'I told them of the offer but they did not accept it and insisted on having the Wala.'.' The Prophet heard that." 'Aisha narrated the whole story to the Prophet. He said to her, "Buy her and stipulate that her Wala' would be yours as the Wala' is for the manumitted." 'Aisha did so. Then Allah's Apostle stood up in front of the people, and after glorifying Allah he said, "Amma Badu (i.e. then after)! What about the people who impose conditions which are not in Allah's Book (Laws)? Any condition that is not in Allah's Book (Laws) is invalid even if they were one hundred conditions, for Allah's decisions are the right ones and His conditions are the strong ones (firmer) and the Wala' will be for the manumitted."

The condtions were from the family of Burayra that are against the Quran shari'ah . You didn't understand the subject of the hadith . what do you finc not good ?

Muslim Book 009, Hadith Number 3587.

Chapter The right of inheritance of property vests with one who emancipates the slave.
'Aisha (Allah be pleased with her) reported Barira came to me and said My family (owners) have made contract with me (for granting freedom) for nine 'uqiyas (of silver) payable in nine years, one 'uqiya every year. Help me (in making this payment). I said to her If your family so desires, I am prepared to make them the full payment in one instalment, and thus secure freedom for you, but the right of inheritance will vest in me, if I do so. She (Barira) made a mention of that to her family, but they refused (except) on the condition that the right of inheritance would vest in them. She came to me and made mention of if She ('Aisha) said I scolded her. She (Barira) said By Allah, it is not possible (they will never agree to it). And as she was saying it, Allah's messenger (may peace be upon him) heard, and he asked me, I informed him and he said Buy her and emancipate her, and let the right of inheritance vest in them, for they cannot claim it (rightfully) since the right of inheritance vests with one who emancipates (the slave; therefore, these people have no right to lay such false claims). And I did so. She ('Aisha) said Then Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) delivered a sermon in the evening. He extolled Allah and praised Him with what He deserves, and then said afterwards, What has happened to the people that they lay down conditions which are not found in the Book of Allah? And the condition which is not found in the Book of Allah is invalid, even if its number is one hundred. The Book of Allah is more true (than any other deed) and the condition laid down by Allah is more binding (than any other condition). What has happened to the people among you that someone among you says "Emancipate so and so, but the right of inheritance vests in me"? Verily, the right of inheritance vests in one who emancipates.

Muwatta Book 038, Hadith Number 017.

Section The Right of the One who Sets Free to the Wala'.
Malik related to me from Hisham ibn Urwa from his father that A'isha, the wife of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Barira came to me and said, 'I have written myself as mukatab for my people for nine uqiyas, one uqiya per year, so help me.' A'isha said, 'If your people agree that I pay it all to them for you, and that if I pay it, your wala' is mine, then I will do it.' Barira went to her masters and told them that and they didn't agree. She came back from her masters while the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, was sitting. She said to A'isha, 'I offered that to them and they refused me unless they had the wala.' The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, heard that and asked her about it A'isha told him and the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, 'Take her and stipulate that the wala' is yours, for the wala' is for the one who sets free.' So A'isha did that and then the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, stood up in front of the people, and praised Allah and gave thanks to Him. Then he said, 'What is wrong with the people who make conditions which are not in the Book of Allah? Any condition which is not in the Book of Allah is invalid even if it is a hundred conditions. The decree of Allah is truer and the conditions of Allah are firmer, and the wala' only belongs to the one who sets free.'"

Abu Dawud Book 024, Hadith Number 3918.

Chapter Sale of a slave who entered an agreement to purchase his freedom when the agreement is repudiated.
Narated By N/A 'Urwah quoting 'Aisha said that Barirah came to her seeking her help to purchase her freedom, and she did not pay anything for her freedom. 'Aisha said to her Return to your people; if they like that I make payment for the purchase of your freedom on your behalf and I shall have the right to inherit from you, I shall do so. Barirah mentioned it to her people, but they refused and said If she wants to purchase your freedom for a reward from Allah, she may do so, but the right to inherit from you shall be ours. She mentioned it to the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him). The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon. him) said Purchase her (freedom) and set her free, for the right of inheritance belongs only to the one who set a, person free. The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) then stood up and said What is the matter with people who make conditions which are not in Allah's Book ! If anyone makes a condition which is not in Allah's Book, he has no right to it, even if he stipulates it hundreds of times. Allah's condition is more valid and binding."

I didn't find any thing strange in this hadiths all of them, and they are talking about " " and the wisdom of Burayra when she asked Aishah about Help and then Aisha went to ask the prophet about conditions that were giving from the family of Buraiyra and he said that are against the shariha of Quran and don't accept them .
Is that too hard to understand .

Leyna

you are a woman you tell me?

But that's what your statement implied. So you should have asked first before giving a fatwa about women being prohibited to mention their shower.
;D

Thereformer1

Sorry I dont take humans as idols, I leave that to you hadithists

I mean by Idle , your best example in learning and seeking the truth . while you're here the whole day without sleeping and without making breakfast to your husband neither dinner , neither ................etc .

Thereformer1

these quranists are hopless. I asked the same question to a quranist and he said "read the story of Moses when he said to his people to sacrifice cow, and how his people start asking him the color, the age, and everything." ??? nope

Let them get twisted, because I know the verse and its meaning and it is not about the married ones .

unknownuser

But that's what your statement implied. So you should have asked first before giving a fatwa about women being prohibited to mention their shower.
;D

my statement didn't entirely imply that, please read it again or ask your friend Ayisha. thanks

Thereformer1

you are a woman you tell me?

She is womanish . rotfl

Ayisha

Wa Alaykom Asalam .

first of all do you know the hadith is about what ?
second of all I didn't find any thing strange in your red bolded sentence . Can you ask your question ?
this the hadith in Arabic and he is talking about

see above . The prophet is talking about conditions that have been dictated from the family of Burayra that were dectating conditions against the shari'ah (Quran shari'ah), so here God said do not accept these conditions that are against sharii'ah of Quran . and by the way the subject is about " ".

The condtions were from the family of Burayra that are against the Quran shari'ah . You didn't understand the subject of the hadith . what do you finc not good ?

I didn't find any thing strange in this hadiths all of them, and they are talking about " " and the wisdom of Burayra when she asked Aishah about Help and then Aisha went to ask the prophet about conditions that were giving from the family of Buraiyra and he said that are against the shariha of Quran and don't accept them .
Is that too hard to understand .

I got it now! http//foolstown.com/sm/ura1.gif Dont accept anything thats not in Quran from this family but from everyone else its ok bravo

Leyna

I mean by Idle , your best example in learning and seeking the truth .

idle

?adjective

not working or active; unemployed; doing nothing idle workers.
not spent or filled with activity idle hours.
not in use or operation; not kept busy idle machinery.
habitually doing nothing or avoiding work; lazy.
of no real worth, importance, or significance idle talk.
having no basis or reason; baseless; groundless idle fears.
frivolous; vain idle pleasures.
meaningless; senseless idle threats.
futile; unavailing idle rage.

?verb (used without object)

to pass time doing nothing.
to move, loiter, or saunter aimlessly to idle along the avenue.
(of a machine, engine, or mechanism) to operate at a low speed, disengaged from the load.

?verb (used with object)

to pass (time) doing nothing (often fol. by away) to idle away the afternoon.
to cause (a person) to be idle The strike idled many workers.
to cause (a machine, engine, or mechanism) to idle I waited in the car while idling the engine.

?noun

the state or quality of being idle.
the state of a machine, engine, or mechanism that is idling a cold engine that stalls at idle.

Thereformer1

The title by itself is hillarious! rotfl

Yeah sure, because is describing you and persons like you

Leyna

my statement didn't entirely imply that, please read it again or ask your friend Ayisha. thanks

I don't need to ask Ayisha, I'm a woman and I talk to women all the time. yay

So my answer is -- yes, women can get turned on by a naked man in the shower too. So your fatwa should be for both men and women.
yes
However, I am referring to an actual man you actually see. Not to imagining someone whom you have never met taking a shower. So imho there is no valid reason to forbid people from mentioning their shower on a public board.
!

Thereformer1

Umar also said 'hasbuna kitab Allah' (enough for us is the book of Allah) - consult the shia about this, they have the incident very well documented to prove Umar rejected the Prophet, hehe.

he never said that . The book of Shia'a are full of adds-on and they make up a lot of the stories of hadith .

Plus all the ahadith of the Shi'a are not ending by "the prophet said" go figure . it seems you're confusing between books of shia'a and book of Sunnah .

What you said about "very well documented" is basically fake because they made up these things to show that Ali is the one who chosen by God to lead the Umma after the death of the prophet . One more thing Shi'a hate all the Sahaba that are not from family of the prophet .

unknownuser

I don't need to ask Ayisha, I'm a woman and I talk to women all the time. yay

yea i know women talk all the time! rotfl

hardly anytime left to think?

Ayisha

I mean by Idle , your best example in learning and seeking the truth . while you're here the whole day without sleeping and without making breakfast to your husband neither dinner , neither ................etc .

The correct word is IDOL, I am certainly not 'idle' and I doubt Sarah is either.

I have slept and who makes food and when in our house is our business and not yours.
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unknownuser

The correct word is IDOL, I am certainly not 'idle' and I doubt Sarah is either.

I have slept and who makes food and when in our house is our business and not yours.
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I think he meant sarah is idle on the forum and you should follow her, go and do something for your family and not waste time on the forum perhaps? -\

Ayisha

he never said that . The book of Shia'a are full of adds-on and they make up a lot of the stories of hadith .
so does abu hurairah et al

Plus all the ahadith of the Shi'a are not ending by "the prophet said" go figure . it seems you're confusing between books of shia'a and book of Sunnah .
seems you too are confused as not all hadith in bukhari and muslim etc start or end with 'the prophet said' either

What you said about "very well documented" is basically fake because they made up these things to show that Ali is the one who chosen by God to lead the Umma after the death of the prophet . One more thing Shi'a hate all the Sahaba that are not from family of the prophet .
Just like your 'very well documented' and 'scholars with knowledge' are fake because they made up these things to lead away from Quran. Sunni hate shia and anyone not sunni, not much difference really

Leyna

yea i know women talk all the time! rotfl

And we are thus contributing to this conversation which you are so thoroughly enjoying. Isn't that great?

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