Quranists became Quranists because of their lack of understanding Quran.
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Sorry I dont take humans as idols, I leave that to you hadithists
I mean by Idle , your best example in learning and seeking the truth . while you're here the whole day without sleeping and without making breakfast to your husband neither dinner , neither ................etc .
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these quranists are hopless. I asked the same question to a quranist and he said "read the story of Moses when he said to his people to sacrifice cow, and how his people start asking him the color, the age, and everything." ??? nope
Let them get twisted, because I know the verse and its meaning and it is not about the married ones .
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But that's what your statement implied. So you should have asked first before giving a fatwa about women being prohibited to mention their shower.
;Dmy statement didn't entirely imply that, please read it again or ask your friend Ayisha. thanks
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you are a woman you tell me?
She is womanish . rotfl
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Wa Alaykom Asalam .
first of all do you know the hadith is about what ?
second of all I didn't find any thing strange in your red bolded sentence . Can you ask your question ?
this the hadith in Arabic and he is talking aboutsee above . The prophet is talking about conditions that have been dictated from the family of Burayra that were dectating conditions against the shari'ah (Quran shari'ah), so here God said do not accept these conditions that are against sharii'ah of Quran . and by the way the subject is about " ".
The condtions were from the family of Burayra that are against the Quran shari'ah . You didn't understand the subject of the hadith . what do you finc not good ?
I didn't find any thing strange in this hadiths all of them, and they are talking about " " and the wisdom of Burayra when she asked Aishah about Help and then Aisha went to ask the prophet about conditions that were giving from the family of Buraiyra and he said that are against the shariha of Quran and don't accept them .
Is that too hard to understand .I got it now! http//foolstown.com/sm/ura1.gif Dont accept anything thats not in Quran from this family but from everyone else its ok bravo
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I mean by Idle , your best example in learning and seeking the truth .
idle
?adjective
- not working or active; unemployed; doing nothing idle workers.
- not spent or filled with activity idle hours.
- not in use or operation; not kept busy idle machinery.
- habitually doing nothing or avoiding work; lazy.
- of no real worth, importance, or significance idle talk.
- having no basis or reason; baseless; groundless idle fears.
- frivolous; vain idle pleasures.
- meaningless; senseless idle threats.
- futile; unavailing idle rage.
?verb (used without object)
- to pass time doing nothing.
- to move, loiter, or saunter aimlessly to idle along the avenue.
- (of a machine, engine, or mechanism) to operate at a low speed, disengaged from the load.
?verb (used with object)
- to pass (time) doing nothing (often fol. by away) to idle away the afternoon.
- to cause (a person) to be idle The strike idled many workers.
- to cause (a machine, engine, or mechanism) to idle I waited in the car while idling the engine.
?noun
- the state or quality of being idle.
- the state of a machine, engine, or mechanism that is idling a cold engine that stalls at idle.
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The title by itself is hillarious! rotfl
Yeah sure, because is describing you and persons like you
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my statement didn't entirely imply that, please read it again or ask your friend Ayisha. thanks
I don't need to ask Ayisha, I'm a woman and I talk to women all the time. yay
So my answer is -- yes, women can get turned on by a naked man in the shower too. So your fatwa should be for both men and women.
yes
However, I am referring to an actual man you actually see. Not to imagining someone whom you have never met taking a shower. So imho there is no valid reason to forbid people from mentioning their shower on a public board.
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Umar also said 'hasbuna kitab Allah' (enough for us is the book of Allah) - consult the shia about this, they have the incident very well documented to prove Umar rejected the Prophet, hehe.
he never said that . The book of Shia'a are full of adds-on and they make up a lot of the stories of hadith .
Plus all the ahadith of the Shi'a are not ending by "the prophet said" go figure . it seems you're confusing between books of shia'a and book of Sunnah .
What you said about "very well documented" is basically fake because they made up these things to show that Ali is the one who chosen by God to lead the Umma after the death of the prophet . One more thing Shi'a hate all the Sahaba that are not from family of the prophet .
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I don't need to ask Ayisha, I'm a woman and I talk to women all the time. yay
yea i know women talk all the time! rotfl
hardly anytime left to think?
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I mean by Idle , your best example in learning and seeking the truth . while you're here the whole day without sleeping and without making breakfast to your husband neither dinner , neither ................etc .
The correct word is IDOL, I am certainly not 'idle' and I doubt Sarah is either.
I have slept and who makes food and when in our house is our business and not yours.
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The correct word is IDOL, I am certainly not 'idle' and I doubt Sarah is either.
I have slept and who makes food and when in our house is our business and not yours.
http//foolstown.com/sm/box2.gifI think he meant sarah is idle on the forum and you should follow her, go and do something for your family and not waste time on the forum perhaps? -\
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he never said that . The book of Shia'a are full of adds-on and they make up a lot of the stories of hadith .
so does abu hurairah et alPlus all the ahadith of the Shi'a are not ending by "the prophet said" go figure . it seems you're confusing between books of shia'a and book of Sunnah .
seems you too are confused as not all hadith in bukhari and muslim etc start or end with 'the prophet said' eitherWhat you said about "very well documented" is basically fake because they made up these things to show that Ali is the one who chosen by God to lead the Umma after the death of the prophet . One more thing Shi'a hate all the Sahaba that are not from family of the prophet .
Just like your 'very well documented' and 'scholars with knowledge' are fake because they made up these things to lead away from Quran. Sunni hate shia and anyone not sunni, not much difference really -
I think he meant sarah is idle on the forum and you should follow her, go and do something for your family and not waste time on the forum perhaps? -\
My husband has just gone out and im not wasting time here, I am learning a great deal AND I am working at the same time.
women can multi-task you know http//foolstown.com/sm/web.gif
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And we are thus contributing to this conversation which you are so thoroughly enjoying. Isn't that great?
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its time to move on!
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2572hLy7AA
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In war, not in Islam .
read this
And hold fast, all together, by the rope which Allah (stretches out for you), and be not divided among yourselves; and remember with gratitude Allah's favour on you; for ye were enemies and He joined your hearts in love, so that by His Grace, ye became brethren; and ye were on the brink of the pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus doth Allah make His Signs clear to you That ye may be guided.
"Verily those who split up their religion and became sects, you have absolutely nothing to do with them."
you see what God said about who split up and became sects . He orders us (you have absolutely nothing to do with them).
You're a sect that has been slpited up not me .
Subhanallah POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK rotfl laugh
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Salam Thereformer1
Wa Alaykom Asalam
Now if 'quranists' have a lack of understanding of alquran, do you then claim the sunni's or other traditionalists have a true pure understanding of alquran all because of hadith?
No, not everything up to hadith, Do you know how must be the interpreting of Quran ? there are rules, do you know them?
P.S I want your answer, don't go look on the internet .
Why is it that people like you claim your sect have the greatest understanding? i mean if you were so great i'd assume a muslim state with pure true islamic laws would be implemented. there are so many of you and if you have grasped the quran so wonderfully i wonder what is the hold up?
These answers are already answered, please read the thread .
Not all hadith interpret quran, alot is subjective to scholarly opinion and lack of hadith.
Yes, you're right. Not all of hadith interpret the Quran , did I say the opposite ? there are other things that hadith stated not existed in Quran literally .
not all hadith is in relation to quranic verses, for what purpose are those hadiths?
The purpose is the second ligeslations after the first ligeslations from God . And the second ligeslations are the ligeslations that are God left for prophet to point the out to human and give them the ability to "" and find ligeslations according to the book of Allah. so basically the second ligeslation and the ligeslations that will the Sahaba made are according to the book of Allah .
also early muslims lived without ahadith do you claim theyre not good enough?
Examples ? please . the verse is clear who created a sect alone he is not from Muslims . Or he will be by definition .
I could use your argument against your sect and it would be more relevant, let me demonstrate; because of the close of ijtihad majority of Muslims have resulted to taqleed and have blindly followed medieval scholars. apparently today we're all too human to be appropriate scholars.. back then there were some other kind of humans, must have been the water or something? so anyway because of our lack of understanding and lack of willingness to learn and take on ijtihad to obtain truth because under some invisible doctrine it's haram, Muslims do taqleed to understand quran. without taqleed the muslims would have to rely on studying and learning about truth. of course you have a minority who believe that taqleed is wrong, yet they still implement taqleed by blindly following scholarly work without re-evaluate it or verifying work
what do you mean by Taqleed ? and who are the scholars that are "Moqaledin" ? and please I'm waiting to use my arguments against my sect , let's see your understanding of the thread .
So what's the truth? majority of Muslims result in blind following others, by blind following others and by blind following others who apparently claim to have studied and verified the truth. When is a Muslim going to step up and prove this so called truth of the medieval scholars? BTW accepting someone's work on the grounds of "they're more knowledgeable" doesn't prove anything that's not a valid claim.
peace.As I see, you didn't understand the Thread . You know that the scholars know that any word from them can mislead people and can makes them the dweller of hell. So let's see one knows that if he say a word will be killed, so he will see this word or not ? the answer is by Yes, or no ..your answer will make you understand, if not I have nothing to do . you're in your own, and I'm in my own