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Quranists became Quranists because of their lack of understanding Quran.

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    Ayisha
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    If your leader was the prophet as you claimed what do you sayd about this

    1. With clear signs and Books (We sent the Messengers). And We have also sent down unto you (O Muhammad &#1605 the Dhikr , that you may explain clearly to men what is sent down to them, and that they may give thought."
      Muhammed recited the Quran, word for word as it was given to him, the Quran IS the explanation and the reminder. The Quran is clear, it does not say "And We have also sent down unto you (O Muhammad &#1605 the Dhikr , (and hadith) that you may explain clearly to men (with hadith) what is sent down to them (in hadith), and that they may give thought.(on hadith)"

    He (All?h) Who took His slave (Muhammad &#1605 for a journey by night from Al-Masjid-al-Har?m (at Makkah) to Al-Masjid-al-Aqs? (in Jerusalem), the neighbourhood whereof We have blessed, in order that We might show him (Muhammad &#1605 of Our Ay?t (proofs, evidence, lessons, signs, etc.). Verily, He is the All-Hearer, the All-Seer.

    Narrated J?bir bin ?Abdull?h that he heard All?h?s Messenger saying, "When the people of Quraish did not believe me , I stood up in Al-Hijr and All?h displayed Jerusalem in front of me, and I began describing it to them while I was looking at it. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol.5, Hadith No.226).
    does this verse say 'by donkey'? Did they not know of 'dreams' back then or are dreams the devils work?

    hhahahaha, do you know what the word means by " Bi Habli Lahii jamii'ah"? do you know the meaning of "Hable"(the rode)"? do you know what God means by the word "I'etasimo" ?
    why dont you tell us instead of laughing arrogantly?

    I think the verse that you have stated is translated word by word, which is not allowed and which is not going to give you the real meanings of the words . well that's not a surprise for me , it is where exactely your lack of understanding of the words of Allah standing.

    nooo you cant say not allowed on this again, you still didnt explain the last time you used that where it says translating word for word is not allowed!

    The point is do not be sects .
    WE are not, YOU are.

    Well, first of all when you are going to talk about History , please try to know the different stages of every nations that have passed and their reasons of being in that way or in the other way . The reason that Abbaseyine got supported is because they have made the sunnah alive again from the view of "Shoura" which has been deleted by the nation of Omaweying who they made the governor inhert the governor in governing . And this thing was not allowed in the existence of the prophet .
    did that answer the question asked? Not asking transformer but someone with a brain

    I've met people that write something but they don't understand it, you're one of them .
    and you're another one! rotfl

    The only thing that was before is sunnah . who is the persons that splited up and became sects . the first one are Shi'a then after them are Khawareje then after them Al-Muatazila then after them the Quranists, the other sects mentioned before have not changed their opinions but the sect of Quranists that have showed themselves in the age of SHAFI'AI, have changed their opinions because they have been attacked by arguments and proofs from Quran and sunnah that what they did is a sin and a spliting of the way of Allah because they were arabic, so basically theu understand the arguments and the proofs, but for you gguys, you have took Islam in english language and it is full of distortion and mistranslation and misinterpreting of the verses, because you're in the 21th century where everyone wants to get famous and be with the ennmies of Islam because of money .
    So, if the first was 'sunnah' that would have been the same path Muhammed was on which was the path of Allah as detailed in Quran. Muhammed followed 'sunnatAllah', the sunnah of Allah as described in Quran, and so did his companions (most of them), then there were splits after his death, shia, sunni etc. So WE are actually following the 'sunnah' as Muhammed did and YOU have split into sects and follow another 'sunnah' other than 'sunnatAllah and YOU are misinterpretting the verses and having petty fights about toilet usage and nose washing. YOU are in fact an enemy of Islam! http//foolstown.com/sm/obm.gif

    Of course this post is right but for you, because we're the true Muslims that prophet left, you have showed yourself in the 21th century as free mind or the modernists of Quran, who they rejected the sunnah not because as they claimed contradict with the Quran but because it is a new projects of Satan and the ennemies of Islam to split up this great nation .But they will not win neither they can win, we are talking about 1.5 billion Muslim sunni in the world who they are in a great increase.

    yes satan increases his army against Allah, but we will win bravo

    Just to remind you that YOU belong to a SECT, WE Dont

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      Ayisha
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      that was not funny because there is no relation between the idiom and what we said (me and mazhar) . and I'm not accusing him, I explain to him his misunderstanding of majority .

      and one more thing I know that your mind is empty, so riding a donkey will not make you better than him.

      P.S Subhanallah is not a collocation .

      so now 'majority' doesnt mean what it says? hypno

      Hadithists became hadithists because of their lack of understanding Quran. If they DID understand Quran they wouldnt say you need hadith to EXPLAIN it rotfl

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        Muhammed recited the Quran, word for word as it was given to him, the Quran IS the explanation and the reminder. The Quran is clear, it does not say "And We have also sent down unto you (O Muhammad &#1605 the Dhikr , (and hadith) that you may explain clearly to men (with hadith) what is sent down to them (in hadith), and that they may give thought.(on hadith)"
        does this verse say 'by donkey'? Did they not know of 'dreams' back then or are dreams the devils work?
        why dont you tell us instead of laughing arrogantly?
        nooo you cant say not allowed on this again, you still didnt explain the last time you used that where it says translating word for word is not allowed!
        WE are not, YOU are.
        did that answer the question asked? Not asking transformer but someone with a brain
        and you're another one! rotfl
        So, if the first was 'sunnah' that would have been the same path Muhammed was on which was the path of Allah as detailed in Quran. Muhammed followed 'sunnatAllah', the sunnah of Allah as described in Quran, and so did his companions (most of them), then there were splits after his death, shia, sunni etc. So WE are actually following the 'sunnah' as Muhammed did and YOU have split into sects and follow another 'sunnah' other than 'sunnatAllah and YOU are misinterpretting the verses and having petty fights about toilet usage and nose washing. YOU are in fact an enemy of Islam! http//foolstown.com/sm/obm.gif
        yes satan increases his army against Allah, but we will win bravo
        Just to remind you that YOU belong to a SECT, WE Dont

        I said do not disturb me . I'll wait his reply .

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          so now 'majority' doesnt mean what it says? hypno

          Hadithists became hadithists because of their lack of understanding Quran. If they DID understand Quran they wouldnt say you need hadith to EXPLAIN it rotfl

          Well, I think you like playing games. I'm not the type of guys that you would like to play with him.

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            Ayisha
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            Well, I think you like playing games. I'm not the type of guys that you would like to play with him.

            Oh I dont know, I think you're great fun group

            and you didnt tell me not to disturb you, and you dont have to reply if you cant or dont want to, but you will not stop me posting what I want, when I want, so give up ordering me about, mahshy ya mufti?

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              Mazhar
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              http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/047.%20Muhammad%20Salla%20Allah%20alaih%20wassalm/47.03.gif
              This is because of the reason that those who refused to accept/believe they consciously made themselves to follow the conjecture and scum
              http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/047.%20Muhammad%20Salla%20Allah%20alaih%20wassalm/47.03a.gif
              and that those who accepted/believed they made themselves follow, in letter and spirit, the Absolute Fact from the Sustainer Lord of them.
              http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/047.%20Muhammad%20Salla%20Allah%20alaih%20wassalm/47.03b.gif
              Like it/in this manner Allah quotes/strikes/narrates for the people their examples/similitude.

              What is Al Haqq which they wholeheartedly followed?

              http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/047.%20Muhammad%20Salla%20Allah%20alaih%20wassalm/Temo%2001%2047.02.gif
              and they acknowledged/accepted which has gradually been sent/communicated to Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam,
              http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/047.%20Muhammad%20Salla%20Allah%20alaih%20wassalm/Temo%2001%2047.02c.gif
              and that is the statement of proven fact from their Sustainer Lord;

              Shapter47

              Reformer, dear here two types of people are contrasted, you did not comment, though you keep naming me here and there.

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                afridi220
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                that was not funny because there is no relation between the idiom and what we said (me and mazhar) . and I'm not accusing him, I explain to him his misunderstanding of majority .

                and one more thing I know that your mind is empty, so riding a donkey will not make you better than him.

                P.S Subhanallah is not a collocation .

                Yes you are right on that my mind is not loaded with crap

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                  Thereformer1
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                  Reformer, dear here two types of people are contrasted, you did not comment, though you keep naming me here and there.

                  I didn't want to comment your post because you know that I disgust your translation of the verses , you distorted them.

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                    Yes you are right on that my mind is not loaded with crap )

                    When I said your mind is emty, know that neither the crap is in it .

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                      Leyna
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                      you know that I disgust your translation of the verses , you distorted them.

                      ... says the person who posts Muhsin-Khan translations. rotfl

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                        ... says the person who posts Muhsin-Khan translations. rotfl

                        Mushsin Khan did not add his own understanding in quran rather the certified one, thats the difference dear sister.

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                          ... says the person who posts Muhsin-Khan translations. rotfl

                          Muhsin khan is the best translation from all the translation that I have seen .

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                            Leyna
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                            Mushsin Khan did not add his own understanding in quran

                            No? Then tell me why he translated juyubihinna with "their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms"? rotfl

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                              Ayisha
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                              Muhsin khan is the best translation from all the translation that I have seen .

                              yes because it actually ADDS the hadith to the verses so changing the word of God just like the Jews and Christians did. Well done Mr Khan bravo

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                                No? Then tell me why he translated juybihinna with "their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms"? rotfl

                                because thats what God meant to say and left those details to be filled in by hadith hypno

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                                  Leyna
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                                  Muhsin khan is the best translation from all the translation that I have seen .

                                  The terrorists love it too. hmm

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                                    even if the details were added in the book still you would have similar misunderstanding. yes

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                                      The terrorists love it too. hmm

                                      oh you live in the same world where terrorists live hmm

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                                        Leyna
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                                        oh you live in the same world where terrorists live hmm

                                        I am not from KSA. ;D ;D ;D

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                                          I am not from KSA. ;D ;D ;D

                                          Most of them are bred in UK or USA anyway rotfl

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