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Oxford Conference June 11-13 (Details and Registration)

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    zulu12
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    Dear thereformer1

    He will answer. Trust me.

    Edip is usually on the ball, but he let his emotions get the better of him on this one!

    Peace

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      Dear thereformer1

      He will answer. Trust me.

      Edip is usually on the ball, but he let his emotions get the better of him on this one!

      Peace

      ok, die to read his reply .

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        Edip_Yuksel
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        Dear thereformer1
        He will answer. Trust me. Edip is usually on the ball, but he let his emotions get the better of him on this one! Peace

        Dear Zulu, your friend is right. Edip will not respond to your criticism the same way he responded to the mocking one, who was perhaps unable to notice the complexity with my response, which was meant as a medicine for his problem.

        As for you Zulu, you have demonstrated a high level of thinking; I respect that and I will resist the temptation to (over)analyze your criticism. So, peace and thanks sun

        Edip

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          I understand your problem brother "ahem" Those who cannot walk, talk, eat, grow beard, have sex, brush their teeth, stone people to death, drink came urine, and go to restroom without hadith, may not be able to envision that monotheists can indeed pray alone or together without hadith.

          Peace,
          Edip

          so unlike the last conference how about praying together this time? send the world at least one positive message, will you? rotfl

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            unknownuser
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            Dear Zulu, your friend is right. Edip will not respond to your criticism the same way he responded to the mocking one, who was perhaps unable to notice the complexity with my response, which was meant as a medicine for his problem.
            Edip

            rotfl rotfl rotfl

            You don't know how much I love your emotional responses! -* -* -* I'll come to see how you people pray, together or ahem... laugh

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              unknownuser
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              I understand your problem brother "ahem" Those who cannot walk, talk, eat, grow beard, have sex, brush their teeth, stone people to death, drink came urine, and go to restroom without hadith, may not be able to envision that monotheists can indeed pray alone or together without hadith.

              Peace,
              Edip

              you are monotheist? so you don't believe in code-19 anymore? o o o

              wow

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                Edip_Yuksel
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                Just to remind you.

                Inshallah, next week we will meet to discuss the current political, theological and institutional progress of the Islamic Reform movement

                Medium PalTalk. You may participate via web or download the program. Please get a mike beforehand. You may also use webcams.
                PalTalk room Islamic Reform, under the social-political-human rights section
                Date Sunday in April 25
                First session 10-12 am Pacific time.
                Second session 1-3 pm Pacific time.

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                  Wakas
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                  so unlike the last conference how about praying together this time? send the world at least one positive message, will you? rotfl

                  Why do you imply praying together would be a positive message? Can you provide evidence by way of reasoning or Quranic knowledge?

                  All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                    Why do you imply praying together would be a positive message? Can you provide evidence by way of reasoning or Quranic knowledge?

                    it seems either they are unable to understand quran or The Clear Quran is unable to give them a method of salat/prayer.

                    3105 Do not be like those who, after they have been given clear revelation, split into factions and fall into disputes a terrible punishment awaits such people!

                    IMO
                    May be before addressing the big issues and having marvellous objectives they should arrange a conference each year just to ponder over Is SALAT = PRAYER ? hmm Good luck to them.

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                      Unity by itself is not necessarily a positive, as people can unite on many things, good and bad.

                      Thus, what could 3105 refer to, or what are the guidelines/limits?
                      Well, let us consider AQ tells us if one group of believers are fighting another group of believers, we should side against those transgressing/aggressors. Note, it still refers to both sides as believers . Further, consider the profound chapter 9 in which believers can live together quite happily with mushrikeen/kafireen. Once these aspects are understood, the question of 'what kind of unity' becomes more clear.

                      In my view, it is certainly not all praying together the same way.

                      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                        Edip_Yuksel
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                        My travel schedule in Europe

                        June 10-15 U.K. Oxford (Critical Thinking for Islamic Reform conference)
                        June 15 (afternoon) Germany, Berlin, Tegel
                        June 16 Poland, Zielona Gora (Meeting with a group of Jewish scholars from Poland, Czechoslovakia and Holland who have acknowledged the message of the Quran)
                        June 17-21 Holland, Amsterdam (Meeting with various Muslim groups)

                        If you would like to join us at any of these meetings, feel free to contact me.

                        Peace,
                        Edip

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