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Resources about abrogation?

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    unknownuser
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    ??? crack what?

    your cars!

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      MUNZIR_ALI
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      your cars!

      I'm gonna cry if meteora does that.

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        afridi220
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        I'm gonna cry if meteora does that.

        crack)1. break without coming fully apart
        2. break into pieces
        3. break with sharp noise
        4. make sharp noise
        5. hit something hard
        6. break open under pressure
        7. fail or make something fail
        8. break down psychologically
        9. become hoarse or change in pitch ( refers to voices )
        10. beat record
        11. open something slightly
        12. decode or solve something
        13. break into something ( informal )
        14. open something to use ( informal )
        15. break molecules down into smaller molecules
        16. disable copy protection ( slang )
        17. break into computer system ( slang )

        noun (plural cracks)

        1. thin break
        2. long narrow opening
        3. sharp noise
        4. weakness
        5. uneven voice tone
        6. purified form of cocaine
        7. blow ( informal )
        8. sarcastic comment ( informal )
        9. attempt ( informal )

        adjective
        excellent

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          Crack cocaine, a smokable form of cocaine

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            MUNZIR_ALI
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            crack1. break without coming fully apart
            2. break into pieces
            3. break with sharp noise
            4. make sharp noise
            5. hit something hard
            6. break open under pressure
            7. fail or make something fail
            8. break down psychologically
            9. become hoarse or change in pitch ( refers to voices )
            10. beat record
            11. open something slightly
            12. decode or solve something
            13. break into something ( informal )
            14. open something to use ( informal )
            15. break molecules down into smaller molecules
            16. disable copy protection ( slang )
            17. break into computer system ( slang )

            noun (plural cracks)

            1. thin break
            2. long narrow opening
            3. sharp noise
            4. weakness
            5. uneven voice tone
            6. purified form of cocaine
            7. blow ( informal )
            8. sarcastic comment ( informal )
            9. attempt ( informal )

            adjective
            excellent

            handshake thanks.

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              AK85
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              peace to all

              can someone offer commentary on 16101? Is this speaking about other scriptures? I am no longer under the impression that the 2106 means verses or abrogate.

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                Not an Arabic speaker but I have just asked my husband and his friend what naskh means and they both said in unison 'COPY'

                I have looked at the verse and just using google translator that too says 'copy'. Further on in the verse it says 'or cause to be forgotten' and the word translated as this is nunsiha according to corpus Quran, but according to google this means 'Our Revelations' and the word 'to delete or abrogate' is Lgh
                again confirmed by both my Arabic speakers here.

                I have just copied each word separately into google and got this

                what copy from verse or our revelations come fine including or ideals pain learning that God at all thing competent.

                nothing about abrogate or cause to forget.

                ???

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                  Ayisha
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                  just tried in google again and found using a few words instead of just one give slightly different translations and it does change to 'abrogate'. confusing!

                  where is Mazhar when you need him (

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                    just tried in google again and found using a few words instead of just one give slightly different translations and it does change to 'abrogate'. confusing!

                    where is Mazhar when you need him

                    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598548.msg228734#msg228734

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                      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598548.msg228734#msg228734

                      TY! ;D

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                        Not an Arabic speaker but I have just asked my husband and his friend what naskh means and they both said in unison 'COPY'

                        I have looked at the verse and just using google translator that too says 'copy'. Further on in the verse it says 'or cause to be forgotten' and the word translated as this is nunsiha according to corpus Quran, but according to google this means 'Our Revelations' and the word 'to delete or abrogate' is Lgh
                        again confirmed by both my Arabic speakers here.

                        I have just copied each word separately into google and got this

                        what copy from verse or our revelations come fine including or ideals pain learning that God at all thing competent.

                        nothing about abrogate or cause to forget.

                        ???

                        peace

                        Is this a reply to my post? If it is, I'm talking about 16101 not 2106, I said that I don't believe 2106 means abrogate or verses

                        naskh is not mentioned in 16101

                        16101

                        Transliteration Wa-itha baddalna ayatan makana ayatin waAllahu aAAlamu bima yunazzilu qaloo innama anta muftarin bal aktharuhum la yaAAlamoona

                        Literal And if We exchanged/replaced/substituted a verse in place (of) a verse , and God is more knowledgeable with what He descends, they said "But you are a fabricator/cutter and splitter." Rather most of them do not know.

                        I think the following argument is compelling, when questioning whether 2106 is referring to verses

                        The words "We replace it with its equal" would be meaningless if the word ?Ayah? in this verse meant a Quranic verse, simply because it would make no sense for God to invalidate one verse then replace it with one that is identical to it! (It says something better or similar, correct?)

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