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Resources about abrogation?

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    MUNZIR_ALI
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    your cars!

    I'm gonna cry if meteora does that.

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      I'm gonna cry if meteora does that.

      crack)1. break without coming fully apart
      2. break into pieces
      3. break with sharp noise
      4. make sharp noise
      5. hit something hard
      6. break open under pressure
      7. fail or make something fail
      8. break down psychologically
      9. become hoarse or change in pitch ( refers to voices )
      10. beat record
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      13. break into something ( informal )
      14. open something to use ( informal )
      15. break molecules down into smaller molecules
      16. disable copy protection ( slang )
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      noun (plural cracks)

      1. thin break
      2. long narrow opening
      3. sharp noise
      4. weakness
      5. uneven voice tone
      6. purified form of cocaine
      7. blow ( informal )
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        Crack cocaine, a smokable form of cocaine

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          MUNZIR_ALI
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          crack1. break without coming fully apart
          2. break into pieces
          3. break with sharp noise
          4. make sharp noise
          5. hit something hard
          6. break open under pressure
          7. fail or make something fail
          8. break down psychologically
          9. become hoarse or change in pitch ( refers to voices )
          10. beat record
          11. open something slightly
          12. decode or solve something
          13. break into something ( informal )
          14. open something to use ( informal )
          15. break molecules down into smaller molecules
          16. disable copy protection ( slang )
          17. break into computer system ( slang )

          noun (plural cracks)

          1. thin break
          2. long narrow opening
          3. sharp noise
          4. weakness
          5. uneven voice tone
          6. purified form of cocaine
          7. blow ( informal )
          8. sarcastic comment ( informal )
          9. attempt ( informal )

          adjective
          excellent

          handshake thanks.

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            AK85
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            peace to all

            can someone offer commentary on 16101? Is this speaking about other scriptures? I am no longer under the impression that the 2106 means verses or abrogate.

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              Ayisha
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              Not an Arabic speaker but I have just asked my husband and his friend what naskh means and they both said in unison 'COPY'

              I have looked at the verse and just using google translator that too says 'copy'. Further on in the verse it says 'or cause to be forgotten' and the word translated as this is nunsiha according to corpus Quran, but according to google this means 'Our Revelations' and the word 'to delete or abrogate' is Lgh
              again confirmed by both my Arabic speakers here.

              I have just copied each word separately into google and got this

              what copy from verse or our revelations come fine including or ideals pain learning that God at all thing competent.

              nothing about abrogate or cause to forget.

              ???

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                Ayisha
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                just tried in google again and found using a few words instead of just one give slightly different translations and it does change to 'abrogate'. confusing!

                where is Mazhar when you need him (

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                  just tried in google again and found using a few words instead of just one give slightly different translations and it does change to 'abrogate'. confusing!

                  where is Mazhar when you need him

                  http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598548.msg228734#msg228734

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                    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598548.msg228734#msg228734

                    TY! ;D

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                      Not an Arabic speaker but I have just asked my husband and his friend what naskh means and they both said in unison 'COPY'

                      I have looked at the verse and just using google translator that too says 'copy'. Further on in the verse it says 'or cause to be forgotten' and the word translated as this is nunsiha according to corpus Quran, but according to google this means 'Our Revelations' and the word 'to delete or abrogate' is Lgh
                      again confirmed by both my Arabic speakers here.

                      I have just copied each word separately into google and got this

                      what copy from verse or our revelations come fine including or ideals pain learning that God at all thing competent.

                      nothing about abrogate or cause to forget.

                      ???

                      peace

                      Is this a reply to my post? If it is, I'm talking about 16101 not 2106, I said that I don't believe 2106 means abrogate or verses

                      naskh is not mentioned in 16101

                      16101

                      Transliteration Wa-itha baddalna ayatan makana ayatin waAllahu aAAlamu bima yunazzilu qaloo innama anta muftarin bal aktharuhum la yaAAlamoona

                      Literal And if We exchanged/replaced/substituted a verse in place (of) a verse , and God is more knowledgeable with what He descends, they said "But you are a fabricator/cutter and splitter." Rather most of them do not know.

                      I think the following argument is compelling, when questioning whether 2106 is referring to verses

                      The words "We replace it with its equal" would be meaningless if the word ?Ayah? in this verse meant a Quranic verse, simply because it would make no sense for God to invalidate one verse then replace it with one that is identical to it! (It says something better or similar, correct?)

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