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    Mazhar
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    and do i get to see the full records of my clients who i am also witness over in society?

    First part about a "shahid" is about the one who physically watched. Allah considers only the Messengers elevated to that level whom He will acquaint with all the information, not you and me. Let us remain in our own shoes.

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    Mazhar A. Nurani Therefore how shall it be when We bring forward from each and every generation a witness
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    and We bring you, the Messenger , as witness upon them.

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    YUSUFALI How then if We brought from each people a witness, and We brought thee as a witness against these people!
    PICKTHAL But how (will it be with them) when We bring of every people a witness, and We bring thee (O Muhammad) a witness against these?
    SHAKIR How will it be, then, when We bring from every people a witness and bring you as a witness against these?
    P>M. 441 How is it then when We bring forth from every nation a witness, and bring you as a witness over these?

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      Salam to all

      Prophet Jesus was a witness over his followers till he was alive. After his death Allah was a watcher and witness over his followers. When prophet Jesus cannot be a witness after his death, then where do we stand. Was prophet Muhammad assigned special status to be a witness against all mankind till the LAST DAY.

      And strive for Allah with the endeavor which is His right. He hath chosen you and hath not laid upon
      you in religion any hardship; the faith of your father Abraham (is yours). He hath named you Muslims of
      old time and in this (Scripture), that the messenger may be a witness against you, and that ye may be
      witnesses against mankind. So establish worship, pay the poor due, and hold fast to Allah. He is your
      Protecting Friend. A blessed Patron and a blessed Helper!

      This verse means that prophet will be a witness against those people who were present during his time and not ALAMEN.

      and that YE may be witnesses against mankind.

      Does this YE means all mankind or only those who were present during the period of the prophet?

      If this YE INCLUDES ME then I am sorry that I cannot be a witness to those people who have died and those who will die after my death because it is not in my knowledge. It is UNSEEN.

      On the day when their tongues and their hands and their feet WITNESS against them as to what they used to do,2424
      On that day Allah will pay them their just due, and they will know that Allah, He is the Manifest Truth.2425

      On the day of judgement Allah will pay them their just due after their tongues, hands and feet have witnnessed against themselves. Where is the PROPHETS WITNESS?

      Thou wast not on the Western side when We decreed the Commission to Moses, nor wast thou a witness (of those events).

      PROPHET WAS NOT A WITNESS when Allah decreed the commission to prophet MOSES, then how could he be a WITNESS TO ALL MANKIND?

      That Day shall We set a seal on their mouths. But their hands will speak to us, and their feet bear witness, to all that they did.

      At length, when they reach the (Fire), their hearing, their sight, and their skins will bear witness against them, as to (all) their deeds.

      Who is more unjust than one who invents a lie against God or rejects His Signs? For such, their portion appointed must reach them from the Book (of decrees) until, when our messengers (of death) arrive and take their souls, they say "Where are the things that ye used to invoke besides God?" They will reply, "They have left us in the lurch," And they will bear witness against themselves, that they had rejected God.

      They will say to their skins "Why bear ye witness against us?" They will say "God hath given us speech,- (He) Who giveth speech to everything He created you for the first time, and unto Him were ye to return.

      "Ye did not seek to hide yourselves, lest your hearing, your sight, and your skins should bear witness against you! But ye did think that God knew not many of the things that ye used to do!

      EYES, SKIN, MOUTH, HANDS, FEET AND THE EARS bear WITNESS. Where is the PROPHETS WITNESS

      And there will come forth every soul with each will be an (angel) to drive, and an (angel) to bear witness.

      For every SOUL there is an angel to bear witness. Where is the PROPHET WITNESS?

      "O ye assembly of Jinns and men! came there not unto you apostles from amongst you, setting forth unto you My signs, and warning you of the meeting of this Day of yours?" They will say "We bear witness against ourselves." It was the life of this world that deceived them. So against themselves will they bear witness that they rejected Faith.

      Even the JINNS will WITNESS against themselves

      We have sent to you, (O men!) an apostle, to be a witness concerning you, even as We sent an apostle to Pharaoh.

      Moses was also sent as a WITNESS, therfore every prophet will be a witness against his followers, but prophet Muhammad was sent as a WITNESS against ALL MANKIND. (CONFUSION)

      Whatever good, (O man!) happens to thee, is from God; but whatever evil happens to thee, is from thy (own) soul. and We have sent thee as an apostle to (instruct) mankind. And ENOUGH S GOD FOR A WITNESS

      " ENOUGH S GOD FOR A WITNESS between us and you we certainly knew nothing of your worship of us!"

      Whether We show thee (realised in thy life-time) some part of what We promise them,- or We take thy soul (to Our Mercy) (Before that),- in any case, to Us is their return ultimately GOD IS WITNESS, to all that they do.

      In whatever business thou mayest be, and whatever portion thou mayest be reciting from the Quran,- and whatever deed ye (mankind) may be doing,- WE ARE WITNESSES thereof when ye are deeply engrossed therein. Nor is hidden from thy Lord (so much as) the weight of an atom on the earth or in heaven. And not the least and not the greatest of these things but are recorded in a clear record.

      GOD IS ENOUGH AS A WITNESS. The discussion ends here.

      Who doth more wrong than those who invent a life against God? They will be turned back to the presence of their Lord, and the witnesses will say, "These are the ones who lied against their Lord! Behold! the Curse of God is on those who do wrong!-

      On that DAY the WITNESSES will say and not the PROPHET

      Those who believe (in the Quran), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians, Christians, Magians, and Polytheists,- God will judge between them on the Day of Judgment for God is witness of all things.

      GOD WILL JUDGE BETWEEN THEM ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT FOR GOD IS WITNESS TO ALL THINGS. Judgement will be based upon the records of all individuals and the on the WITNESS OF ALLAH, and not PROPHET MUHAMMAD.

      Prophet will be a WITNESS against those people (UNBELIEVERS AND HYPOCRITES)WHO WERE PRESENT DURING THE TENURE OF HIS LIFE, who were evil, treacherous and who refused to believe in ONE GOD and who refused to believe in him and the Quran and the BELIEVERS.

      FOR JUDGEMENT God does not need ANY help for GOD IS ENOUGH AS A WITNESS.

      ONLY ALLAH IS OMNIPRESENT AND NOT OTHERS TO BECOME A WITNESS.

      May Allah guide all to the truth.

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        szuberi
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        Through the study of the Quran, i have come to the understanding that THE BOOK was given to all prophets (2213, 683-89) and Quran/Recital is simply the confirmation and detail of THE BOOK (1037) that was given to all. Torah, Psalms and Gospel are not books but rather attributes and characteristics of THE BOOK. (Al-Kitab).

        One GOD
        One Judgement
        One standard
        One BOOK

        "??There is no changing the words of God" 1064

        If we read the Quran with this understanding, a whole lot of questions are answered very clearly. It will also become clear that why the Quran constantly refers the Messenger and not by name.

        Most people do not and will not believe in this however.

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          Through the study of the Quran, i have come to the understanding that THE BOOK was given to all prophets (2213, 683-89) and Quran/Recital is simply the confirmation and detail of THE BOOK (1037) that was given to all. Torah, Psalms and Gospel are not books but rather attributes and characteristics of THE BOOK. (Al-Kitab).

          One GOD
          One Judgement
          One standard
          One BOOK
          AMEN!

          "??There is no changing the words of God" 1064

          If we read the Quran with this understanding, a whole lot of questions are answered very clearly. It will also become clear that why the Quran constantly refers the Messenger and not by name.

          Most people do not and will not believe in this however.

          agreed bravo

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            Mazhar
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            Quote from szuberi on Today at 022710 PM
            Through the study of the Quran, i have come to the understanding that THE BOOK was given to all prophets (2213, 683-89) and Quran/Recital is simply the confirmation and detail of THE BOOK (1037) that was given to all. Torah, Psalms and Gospel are not books but rather attributes and characteristics of THE BOOK. (Al-Kitab).

            One GOD
            One Judgement
            One standard
            One BOOK
            AMEN Ayisha

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            2285

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            and whoever refuses to accept Allah, and the Angels, and His BOOKS and His Messengers and the Last Day
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            then for this reason indeed he perished/lost himself to the far destructive end of neglectfulness.

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              "??There is no changing the words of God" 1064

              If we read the Quran with this understanding, a whole lot of questions are answered very clearly. It will also become clear that why the Quran constantly refers the Messenger and not by name.

              Most people do not and will not believe in this however.

              agreed - Ayisha

              How hasty are people in agreeing to an incorrect statement whenever it is with reference to the Elevated Messener of Allah!! sadistic pleaure!!!

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              and they acknowledged/accepted which has gradually been sent/communicated to Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam,

              Surat 47

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                How hasty are people in agreeing to an incorrect statement whenever it is with reference to the Elevated Messener of Allah!! sadistic pleaure!!!
                sadistic pleasure? ??? And of course you mean the ONE and ONLY elevated messenger and THAT is what I and others have a problem with, not WHO it is. If you were doing this with Jesus or Moses or any other messenger my feelings would be the same so stop with your sadistic pleasure of thinking anything other than that.

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                  2285

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                  and whoever refuses to accept Allah, and the Angels, and His BOOKS and His Messengers and the Last Day
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                  then for this reason indeed he perished/lost himself to the far destructive end of neglectfulness.

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                  and His MessengerS

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                    sadistic pleasure? ??? And of course you mean the ONE and ONLY elevated messenger and THAT is what I and others have a problem with, not WHO it is. If you were doing this with Jesus or Moses or any other messenger my feelings would be the same so stop with your sadistic pleasure of thinking anything other than that.

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                    The Ayat quoted is with reference to this

                    If we read the Quran with this understanding, a whole lot of questions are answered very clearly. It will also become clear that why the Quran constantly refers the Messenger and not by name......Agreed Ayisha

                    So you withdraw from agreeing to it.

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                      and His MessengerS

                      This too is irrelevant. The Ayat quoted with underlined plural words "His BOOKS" and point rebutted was this
                      "Through the study of the Quran, i have come to the understanding that THE BOOK was given to all prophets (2213, 683-89) and Quran/Recital is simply the confirmation and detail of THE BOOK (1037) that was given to all. Torah, Psalms and Gospel are not books but rather attributes and characteristics of THE BOOK. (Al-Kitab)." Amen-Ayisha

                      Do you accept the word of Allah or misconceived understanding of this gentleman?

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                        This too is irrelevant. The Ayat quoted with underlined plural words "His BOOKS" and point rebutted was this Do you accept the word of Allah or misconceived understanding of this gentleman?

                        so who are the people of The Book? and what does the The Mother of The Book consist of?

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                          so who are the people of The Book? and what does the The Mother of The Book consist of?

                          Mother of the book is like a super computer

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                            the word "kutubihi" indeed is a plural of Book but this does not mean that there are several books given to several prophets.

                            Keep 2213 and 683-89 in mind where the singular and proper THE BOOK is used.

                            Kutubihi is a reference to the "surahs" that are contained within THE BOOK.

                            To understand this further, you will have to take out all references of "Alkitab", "Kutubihi", "Kutub", "Torah, Gospel, Psalms" and then do a comprehensive analysis.

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                              Please read this verse

                              you who believe; believe in God and His messenger, and the Book which was sent down to His messenger, and the Book which was sent before. And whoever rejects God, and His angels, and His Books, and His messengers, and the Last Day; then he has strayed a far straying (4136)

                              In the same verse, the word THE BOOK (Al-Kitab - singular) and Books (Kutub - plural). What does this mean? The answer is given in 982-3

                              ?Rasool (messenger) from Allah rehearses purified pages. In them (pages) are BOOKS (kutub) established.?
                              (982-3)

                              Each page of the quran is pure. All the pages are purified. A messenger recites from these purified pages. And what are written in the pages??????????..ayats?.verses!!! Each ayat/verse is a BOOK in itself!

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                                hafeez Kazi

                                2255 Translation by Mazhar
                                Allah is He except Whom there is no iela'aha, He is The Living, The Ever Living; Perpetually living; not subject to death.doziness/drowsiness and sleep can never overtake Him for Him is everyone/thing who/what is in the Skies and on/in the Earth/All what is in the Skies and the Earth are for Him subservient/dependant .Who is the one competent/legally qualified who could recommend/plead before Him except by His prior permission ?He knows what is before/in their present and past and what is after/future of them and they cannot encompass anything from His knowledge except what He desires to share.His sovereignty/dominance extends beyond the Skies and the Earth. And taking care of these both two does not weary Him.And He is The Exalted Supreme, The Greatest.

                                Muhammad was not witness to each and every thing, but he surely was witness and will be witness to many things, You cannot compare yourself with Muhammad peace is upon him. You are just an ordinary human being, other Prophets were Chosen one's by Allah for their specific nations but Muhammad is

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                                He was for all mankind, for all worlds. and Allah tells us in following Ayat

                                And We have raised your remembrance

                                Why RAISE the remembrance of a DEAD person? of what use is IT?

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                                  ayats?.verses!!! Each ayat/verse is a BOOK in itself

                                  In English one might presume a feminine equivalent to masculine, but in Arabic it is NOT possible, since it is the languae of fact and reality. Ayat is feminine and Book is masculine. And a feminine is never like the masculine.

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                                    Raaajah
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                                    To hafeez Kazi and other Munkareen-e- Shaane Muhammad

                                    Remember when Allah took a covenant from the prophets, saying, "I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, a messenger will come to confirm all existing scriptures. You shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?" They said, "We agree." He said, "You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you."

                                    Allah;s Messengers are bearing witness on something they have not yet seen. This also confirms the Elevated status of Muhammad Peace is upon him in eyes of Allah.

                                    Allah Ho Akbar, that is how Allah exposes the Falsehood.

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                                      except by His prior permission
                                      Then/for reason indeed We will ask those people towards whom the Messenger was sent;
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                                      and indeed We will ask about those people from the Messengers.

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                                      Then/in response to their answer We will narrate/show to them complete detail with knowledge,
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                                      since We were not absent .

                                      Surat Al Airaaf-7

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                                        This too is irrelevant. The Ayat quoted with underlined plural words "His BOOKS" and point rebutted was this Do you accept the word of Allah or misconceived understanding of this gentleman?

                                        I accept the Word of Allah and not what I believe to be your misconceived idea of the Word of Allah. In Quran Allah tells me to think and reflect on its verses, that is done using some common sense, which is called common sense as we are all given some, its common. I have seen you here telling someone to NOT use common sense when thinking about an ayat, which is against what Allah said.

                                        I have believed for a while now, and same as szuberi have come to the conclusion that The Quran, or at the very least the Mother of the Book, is comprised of ALL Allah's words that have been given to man and just like as afridi said, its like a super computer and Allah has the hard drive, so when Allah says 'no one can change the words of Allah' He aint kidding, Hes got the hard drive, the whole copy.

                                        People of the book are all of us that listen to Allahs words, not just Christians or Jews, and those verses apply to us all. To imply that The Book is Quran and only Quran IMO is wrong as that is not what Allah says when you look at the whole wood instead of inspecting the bark of the trees individually. That is why this FINAL message is for ALL mankind and confirms what came before it are from Allah are part of this message and that is why they are in this message.

                                        You may be well versed in the Arabic language but your manner and the way you pass that information on is not in any way how you have been told to 'teach' and is not following any prophet that i have heard of. You call people ignorant, stupid, munafiq , claim an Arabic teacher would slap the face of one not getting it and have even claimed that learning Arabic is easy for those who dont have veils on their hearts. this is not for YOU to decide who has a veil on his/her heart or not and you too may very well have one over yours which your apparent arrogance shines through. With a little humility and a bucket of patience you could teach many many people how to understand the Arabic language but instead you have tantrums and call names and fail to have a productive discussion or debate. In your mind you are right and everyone else is wrong and you are not in the least bit 'pliable' nor will you even think for one minute that someone else may have a good point, which many have here.

                                        Arabic script and language is very similar to your own mother tongue, so learning this is much easier for you than someone like me, but I do think that as I said above, you cannot see the wood for the trees.

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                                          Taking advantage of your quote, Raaajah, let me further clarify what is in the paretheses, which may help some to understand how would he act as "the Witness-Shaidan"

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                                          Then/for reason indeed We will ask those people towards whom the Messenger was sent;

                                          those people to whom the messenger was sent, those who were there during his lifetime

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                                          and indeed We will ask about those people from the Messengers.
                                          those people, the ones who were there when the messenger was alive

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                                          Then/in response to their answer We will narrate/show to them complete detail with knowledge,
                                          because only Allah knows the complete detail even though the messengers were there with those people in their lifetimes

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                                          since We were not absent .
                                          As Allah was there, here and everywhere and not absent like the messengers were after their death

                                          Surat Al Airaaf-7

                                          amazing you cant even see it in your own translation

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