Root: ح م د the praise, admiration.
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I disagree. Praise in English means just as you have said it means in the Arabic root. Aiysha
Encarta dictionary is obviously not compiled by an Urdu or Arabic speaking person.
praisepraise
noun (plural prais?es)- expression of admiration words that express approval or admiration, e.g. for somebody's achievements or for something's good qualities
- worship worship and thanks to God or a deity (often used in the plural)
transitive verb (past and past participle praised, present participle prais?ing, 3rd person present singular prais?es)
- express admiration for somebody or something to express approval or admiration for somebody or something
- worship God to give worship and thanks to God or a deity
Microsoft? Encarta? 2006. ? 1993-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
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Pronunciation/prez/
verb1 express warm approval or admiration ofwe can't praise Chris enough ? he did a brilliant job
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2 express one's respect and gratitude towards (a deity), especially in songwe praise God for past blessingsnoun
(also praises)1 the expression of approval or admiration for someone or somethingthe audience was full of praise for the whole production
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2 the expression of respect and gratitude as an act of worshipgive praise to Godhttp//oxforddictionaries.com/view/entry/m_en_gb0655070#m_en_gb0655070
So whats the point of this thread Mazhar? that an English person cannot understand how to praise God?
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So whats the point of this thread Mazhar? that an English person cannot understand how to praise God? Ayisha
If you get out of the negativity which is dominating upon you these days, this sentence will not convey to you what you have stated.
is used only for a person of will and intellect and not for matter and other living creatures while the English word "praise" refers to expression of admiration for somebody or something.
And Ayisha this is also in your quoted dictionary
1 the expression of approval or admiration for someone or somethingthe audience was full of praise for the whole production
The purpose of thread is information about the Root which is contained in the link given below"
Root
Words from this Root in the Grand Qur'aan
a) Total occurrences 68
b) No of constructions 17
The basic perception infolded in the Root is to willingly and sincerely acknowledge and appreciate the grandeur and greatness, positive and proportionate qualities, traits and acts of a person and express admiration. is used only for a person of will and intellect and not for matter and other living creatures while the English word "praise" refers to expression of admiration for somebody or something.
د ) is, on one hand, the prerogative and exclusive right of a person intrinsically possessor of grandeur, greatness, power, dominion, sovereignty etc and, on the other hand, it is an obligation upon others to recognize, acknowledge and express their admiration reflecting willful and affectionate acceptance of their relative inferiority and humility.
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Peace,
Brother Mazhar... May I know the origin of the definition you provided above... thank you
I once read a very good simple explanation of praise and since then, when I praise God, I am more actively into it that before.
It is from Syed Abdul Wadud from Gateway to the Quran and I quote
"Alhamd" The word ?Hamd' is usually translated as ?praise ?, but this does
not represent the true sense of the word. There are other words for ? praise? in
Arabic language but these have not been used by Quran, which indicates that
the word ?Hamd? has a special significance, and that it is essential to grasp the
true meaning of it. The expression of intense feelings of apprication which
arise in one?s mind on witnessing a beautiful, proportionate and rare object is
what is called 'Hamd' in Arabic. But it has certain preconditions attached to it,
which are as follows--
The object of ? Hamd ? or its traits must be visible to the one who
praise, because an invisible object is not able to excite such feelings of
appreciation. -
The act, committed by a certain person, who is the object ?Hamd? ,
must come into play by his own choice. A mechanical occurrence cannot
become the object of ? Hamd ? so much so that the beauty of an object
hestowed upon it by the Creator can-not by itself become the object of ? Hamd
?. Thus while appreciating the beauty of a certain object the word is not
used for it. For example in the dance of a peacock, the peacock deserves
while the Creator of peacock deserves ? Hamd ?. -
The feeling of ? Hamd ? must arise spontaneously from within. A
praise brought about by pressure is not ? Hamd ? such as a praise which
is the result of show or hypocrisy.
4.The feelings of ? Hamd ? must arise out of a thorough knowledge of the
object, of ? Hamd ?. A vague or undefined picture of a certain object, or a blind
faith in its being, can not excite such feelings.- The beauty and proportion of the object of ? Hamd ? must be
perfect.
The one described above is the concept of the word in Arabic and it has
been used by the Holy Quran in that sense. When we say it
means that ? Hamd ? is due to Allah alone. But Allah is not visible to us. As
described earlier, the first precondition for ? Hamd ? is that one should feel the
presence of the object of ? Hamd ?. As a matter of fact, according to the Holy
Quran you come to know Allah through his creation. Thus when we come
across a beautiful and attractive object, we see it with our own eyes, our mind
appreciates it and our tongue expresses the words of praise for the Creator.
The Quran saysAlhamdu lillahi allathee khalaqa alssamawati waal-arda wajaAAala
alththulumati waalnnoora (6/1)? Hamd ? is due to Allah who created the heavens and the earth and made
the darkness and the light ?.The object of Allah?s creation that are lying scattered around us, in
every nook and corner of the universe, are so beautiful, proportionate and
attractive that they spontaneously create the feelings of praise for Him.
Consequently it is incumbent upon man to explore nature and use the outcome
of exploration for the benefit of humanity.The Quran says
Inna fee khalqi alssamawati waal-ardi waikhtilafi allayli waalnnahari laayatin
li-olee al-albabi. Allatheena yathkuroona Allaha qiyaman waquAAoodan
waAAala junoobihim wayatafakkaroona fee khalqi alssamawati waal-ardi
rabbana ma khalaqta hatha batilan subhanaka faqina AAathaba alnnari (3/190-
191)? In the creation of the heavens and the earth and the alternation of the day
and night, there are indeed signs for men who ponder over it, men who
keep before themselves the divine law, standing, sitting and lying down on
their sides and contemplate ( the wonders of ) creation in the heavens and the
earth, (with the thought) our Rabb Thou hast not created all this without
purpose. Praise be to thee. Give us knowledge to discover the laws of nature
to save ourselves from destruction?.The Quran terms them ? Ulema ? , those who ponder over the
phenomena of nature-Alam tara anna Allaha anzala mina alssama-i maan faakhrajna bihi thamaratin
mukhtalifan alwanuha wamina aljibali judadun beedun wahumrun mukhtalifun
alwanuha wagharabeebu soodun. Wamina alnnasi waalddawabbi waal-
anAAami mukhtalifun alwanuhu kathalika innama yakhsha Allaha min
AAibadihi alAAulamao inna Allaha AAazeezun ghafoorun? (35/27-2? Do you not see that Allah send down rain from the sky? With it We then
bring about produces of various colours. And in the mountains are newly
created strata of rocks, white, red and various shades of colour, and intensely
black. And so among men and crawling creatures and cattle are they of
various colours. Those who possess the knowledge (of these sciences) really
appreciate the mighty power of the laws of Allah and are afraid of going
against them. They know that his laws are omnipotent and provide protection
for those who abide by it ?.There is yet another set of laws which are given to humanity for their guidance,
which are as immutable as the physical laws, both arising from the common
source. Those who ponder over these divine laws, given in the book of Allah,
are also aroused by the mighty powers, beauty, proportion, utility and straight
forwardness of these laws and spontaneously express the feelings of praise by
sayingAlhamdu lillahi allathee anzala AAala AAabdihi alkitaba walam yajAAal lahu
AAiwajan (18/1)? Praise be to Allah who hath sent to his servant (P.B.U.H) the book and hath
allowed therein no crookedness?.Thus the Hamd of Allah can arise only after pondering over the laws that lie
scattered in every nook and corner of this universe, as well as those given to
mankind for its guidance through the messengers of Allah; those given to his
last messenger (P.B.U.H) now lie safely inside the Quran.
The last Rasool of Allah (P.B.U.H) who made the ?Hamd? of Allah to prevail
amongst mankind, thus came to be known as ? Ahmad ? i.e., the one who
indulged in the ? Hamd ? of Allah to his utmost; and he himself thus became
Muhammad which means the object of praise. That is why it was said?AAasa an yabAAathaka rabbuka maqaman mahmoodan (17/79)
? And the hope that thy Rabb will send thee to the place of praise and
glory?.It was on account of his efforts that ( the way of life prescribed by
Allah) came into being; which was the praise of all those who witnessed it,
from all over the world. It was on account of him that all those nations, who
were committed to tyranny and high handedness, were washed off from the
face of the earth.FaqutiAAa dabiru alqawmi allatheena thalamoo waalhamdu lillahi rabbi
alAAalameena (6/45)? Of the wrong-doors the last remnant was cut off. Praise to be to Allah, the
cherisher of the worlds?.With the elimination of tyrrann?s, the ?Hamd? of Allah came to be displayed all
over the world. The above said verse makes it clear that to bring about the revolution described
above, the manifestation of the attribute of ? Power ? associated with Allah?s
personality must come into play. It means that appreciation of the aesthetic
aspect of Allah?s creation runs side by side with the display of Allah?s supreme
power. That is why it is said?..lahu almulku walahu alhamdu?. (24/1)
? To him belongs dominion and to him belongs praise ?.
The source of ? Hamd ? and Domination is Allah, and if the latter is not
displayed along with the former the entire organisation of the universe shall
disintegrate. On the other hand if the display of power is not associated with ?
Hamd ? which is the result of the aesthetic aspect of creation, it assumes
thworst from the tyrrany. That is why the Quran has said that Allah sent down
? Iron ? along with the book and the balance, (57 25). Without the power to
establish the teachings of the Quran remain only a sermon. The
believers become by the reciprocal display of the force of the ? Iron
? and the Book?.The above description has clarified the concept and the aim of the utterance, by
a believer of the words . It is not a mere utterance of words; it aims at bringing in to being the
establishment of the way of life prescribed by the Creator, by exploring and
gaining control of the forces of nautre and utilising them for the benefit of
humanity, subject to divine guidance; and to eliminate all forces which form
hurdles in its way. -
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Peace,
Brother Mazhar... May I know the origin of the definition you provided above... thank you
I once read a very good simple explanation of praise and since then, when I praise God, I am more actively into it that before.
It is from Syed Abdul Wadud from Gateway to the Quran and I quote
Please read and then see your earlier part of your quote and let me know whether there is any difference of perception?
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If you get out of the negativity which is dominating upon you these days, this sentence will not convey to you what you have stated.
And Ayisha this is also in your quoted dictionary
The purpose of thread is information about the Root which is contained in the link given below"
Ok I read the link, thank you
So what you're saying in effect is that on the one hand 'All Praise is for Allah' but this 'AlHamd' has to have a do'er of the praise and none of the praise existed or meant anything before Muhammed (the praiser) came to 'be the first in creation' to make this reality. In short, God was nothing until Muhammed made him worthy of praise!
""But (AlHamd) is not something like matter having dimensions. It is abstract and can be appreciated intellectually. And (AlHamd)is not something that could exist in isolation. It can emerge only when there is an Object of it and another person of will and intellect to act as doer/subject of performing it. There has to be the Praised One and the Praiser/Admirer when (AlHamd) The Praise, the Admiration will become a reality.
The predicate of the sentence is a hidden/omitted verb "Specified" which undoubtedly has a subject/the doer. And obviously whoever will be the First in Creation, whether in temporal or pre temporal era/realm, he will certainly be the first to determine and specify that (AlHamd) The Praise, the Admiration is exclusively for Allah.
On coming into being, the first and foremost obligation of the created one is to Praise and Admire the Glory of his Creator. And the one who praises and admires is referred and known by the name (Ahmad) the one who praises the Glory of Allah.
"and I am the pronouncer of glad news of only one Messenger who will corporeally come after me, his name is (Ahmad) "
The acknowledgement and expression of (Alhamdulillah) by (Ahmad) is an oral statement. Its physical evidence and manifestation in temporal era, which unfolds its sublime meanings and true spirit, is this
You, the Messenger pronounce for the information of humanity, "Indeed my Salat, and all my physical acts, and my life and my death are for Allah, the Sustainer Lord of the existing and known Worlds;
Notwithstanding that Easa son of Maryam had made known the name of the only one Messenger who was to come after him as (Ahmad) , when he was corporeally sent to the world he was named (Muhammed Rasool Allah) Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. ""
Green above is where i cannot copy the Arabic in the site.
Mazhar, Muhammed was not the first in creation to praise Allah!
I suggest you study what the 'meaning' of the names John and Jesus were too along with other prophets and messengers.Also check that EVERYTHING Allah created PRAISES HIM
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Please read and then see your earlier part of your quote and let me know whether there is any difference of perception?
Why did you just say this??
I never implied anything regarding what you wrote... it seems good to me... It bears similarity to what i quoted from S.A.Wadud as well...
I just wanted to ask you for your source regarding your explanation...
Seems you are infected with the negativity as well ???
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Another little gem
Therefore, for Allah is the Infinite Glory and Praise eternally and exclusively, the Sustainer Lord of the Skies; and the Sustainer Lord of the Earth, the Sustainer Lord of all the Known/Existing Worlds/all that exists.
What the hell is that doing there in brackets? ???
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It bears similarity to what i quoted from S.A.Wadud as well...
I just wanted to ask you for your source regarding your explanation...
And Brother, exactly this I wanted to bring to notice. Neither he innovated the meanings nor I have innovated. These are vividly explained in the Ayyat of Qur'aan and Arabic lexicons. Allah is the ONLY ONE Who existed and exists. The word "Praise" has neither existence nor any meanings when there is/was only ONE. Praise is acknowledgement of greatness of One by someone else, another entity of will and decision and intellect who can appreciate and admire the greatness of the One.
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And Brother, exactly this I wanted to bring to notice. Neither he innovated the meanings nor I have innovated. These are vividly explained in the Ayyat of Qur'aan and Arabic lexicons. Allah is the ONLY ONE Who existed and exists. The word "Praise" has neither existence nor any meanings when there is/was only ONE. Praise is acknowledgement of greatness of One by someone else, another entity of will and decision and intellect who can appreciate and admire the greatness of the One.
As the Angels did before creation of man
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It was response to this quote/inference drawn by Ayisha
No Mazhar it was in referrence to this;
""But (AlHamd) is not something like matter having dimensions. It is abstract and can be appreciated intellectually. And (AlHamd)is not something that could exist in isolation. It can emerge only when there is an Object of it and another person of will and intellect to act as doer/subject of performing it. There has to be the Praised One and the Praiser/Admirer when (AlHamd) The Praise, the Admiration will become a reality.
in other words there was no AlHamd until the one who praises (Ahmad) came to give the Praised ONE (Allah) REALITY.
Astagfirulla!
if THAT is not giving Allah a partner in Muhammed then I dont know what is! For GOD'S sake look at what you are doing in order to raise and praise one MAN above anyone in living creation!
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No Mazhar it was in referrence to this;
""But (AlHamd) is not something like matter having dimensions. It is abstract and can be appreciated intellectually. And (AlHamd)is not something that could exist in isolation. It can emerge only when there is an Object of it and another person of will and intellect to act as doer/subject of performing it. There has to be the Praised One and the Praiser/Admirer when (AlHamd) The Praise, the Admiration will become a reality.
in other words there was no AlHamd until the one who praises (Ahmad) came to give the Praised ONE (Allah) REALITY.
Astagfirulla!
if THAT is not giving Allah a partner in Muhammed then I dont know what is! For GOD'S sake look at what you are doing in order to raise and praise one MAN above anyone in living creation!
A simple and straight forward definition and perception of Al Hamd is given. Is that incorrect? Can there be Hamd without there being an admirer who will praise? This is the first point either to be accepted or rejected, rest of the discussion is later part.
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Were not the malaaikah already praising God even before the creation of man? And it was one of their main concern as well when God decided to create man.
The angels and everything in creation praises Allah but according to some idol worshippers none of this was real praise until THE Praiser was born apparently born with the name Muhammed rasool Allah.
i cant watch this anymore, it's gone beyond sane discussion and what some will do to 'prove' one messenger was the sole reason we have AlHamd seems to know no bounds. Will we have the planets repeating salalahu alaihi wasalam as they fly above us next? I can honestly say Mazhar you have totally surpassed even the great reformer in complete and utter BS.
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The angels and everything in creation praises Allah but according to some idol worshippers none of this was real praise until THE Praiser was born apparently born with the name Muhammed rasool Allah.
i cant watch this anymore, it's gone beyond sane discussion and what some will do to 'prove' one messenger was the sole reason we have AlHamd seems to know no bounds. Will we have the planets repeating salalahu alaihi wasalam as they fly above us next? I can honestly say Mazhar you have totally surpassed even the great reformer in complete and utter BS.
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Indeed We have let remain placed in their necks hard collars
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But (AlHamd) is not something like matter having dimensions. It is abstract and can be appreciated intellectually. And (AlHamd)is not something that could exist in isolation. It can emerge only when there is an Object of it and another person of will and intellect to act as doer/subject of performing it. There has to be the Praised One and the Praiser/Admirer when (AlHamd) The Praise, the Admiration will become a reality.
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Indeed We have let remain placed in their necks hard collars
http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/036.%20Ya%20Seen/36.08b.gifand these are up to chins for which reason they are in position of heads raised in one direction;This is making difficult to understand this simple thing
oh I understand the meaning perfectly
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Mazhar
A simple and straight forward definition and perception of Al Hamd is given. Is that incorrect? Can there be Hamd without there being an admirer who will praise? This is the first point either to be accepted or rejected, rest of the discussion is later part.
She will not come to this point.
Let her not destroy a very important thread, I request you to reply only to the posts which really are to the point..with reference to your first post.There are other threads when she can be replied to her stupidities.