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Is Prophet Muhammad?s duty to deliver Quran only?: No

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    Ayisha
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    Allah is the owner of Truth and Falsehood.

    Allah advocate Truth. He does not advocate Falsehood.

    Is this baby steps sufficient for your understanding?

    You grasp falsehood like pit bull grabs his victim.

    You will just not let go the falsehood.

    Supporting human messenger is supporting Allah. This is NOT the same as prophets supporting Gabriel. Do you need baby steps to get it into your head.

    Answering questions would be a start instead of playing the unrighteous condescending bratt

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      guest
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      I see a lot of words, but did you actually say anything?

      You cannot see the truth because Allah has sealed you heart from understanding the Quran.

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        Ayisha
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        You cannot see the truth because Allah has sealed you heart from understanding the Quran.

        Has he also sealed your fingers from answering any questions?

        peace

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          Raaajah
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          Ayisha to Guest

          Has he also sealed your fingers from answering any questions?

          no one at least in this world can answer you hail

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            Ayisha
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            Ayisha to Guest
            no one at least in this world can answer you hail

            not everyone is like you and guest raj. Alhamdulillah! and if you, like guest, are claiming something then you should at least be able to answer questions on it as guest said "A righteous person would have said this is how I do it and that it consistent with Prophet Muhammad?s way for such and such reason." and refused to do that as you have. Therefore, Allah has already exposed you for what you are.

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              Raaajah
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              not everyone is like you and guest raj. Alhamdulillah! and if you, like guest, are claiming something then you should at least be able to answer questions on it as guest said "A righteous person would have said this is how I do it and that it consistent with Prophet Muhammad?s way for such and such reason." and refused to do that as you have. Therefore, Allah has already exposed you for what you are.

              no one can answer you, I swear by the donkey and the tree, that might come as messengers to you. laugh

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                guest
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                Answering questions would be a start instead of playing the unrighteous condescending bratt

                The answer is there for you.

                You don?t see them because you are misusing your mind. Satan has the better part of you.

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                  I honestly became a quran only person, but the truth must be said, most quranists people feel their heart tight when they hear mohamed's name, it bothers them, not all of them but most of them, mohamed is the enemy, they even respect rashad khalfa but not mohamed, they respect abraham too much but not mohamed, they praise scientists and some philosphers and some of them even calls them messengers, but not mohamed
                  Open your eyes Quran only people, we're all a nobody, knicknames on the internet, people who wants to learn of each other, but if u hear the name of mohamed, give some respect for the greated ruler in the history of mankind , is it me who is saying this??? no , it's allah
                  wa kountoum khayra umatin ukhrijet linness
                  you are the best nation that came out to mankind
                  that is mohamed's generation , the kingdom he established
                  if his nation was the best nation in the history of mankind, than their ruler ( mohamed ) is the greatest rueler in the history of mankind
                  whether you like it or not, if you say to me no, that's not true, than I tell u yoy are liars and it is allah who said the truth about mohamed

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                    loxbox13
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                    I decided to don't post anymore , a lot of people here disrespect me, i love my mother and father, and i love the prophet the same way, i love allah more than all of them, but keeping degrading the prophet like that , i noticed that most of you act as if they do really understand the quran better than prophet mohamed, no wonder a lot of u are calling themselves messengers , well, i believe in the quran only and 's enaulove the one whom allah chose to bring us the quran and ibelieve that mohamed was way way smarter and higher spiritually than you who is reading this post, actually you and me are not worth tighing his shows, and i believe it, as for u taking this as a worship to mahamed, you're wrong, i love allah , and i amnot worth mohamed's fingernail, allah know what's in the hearts of people, mohamed brought the greatest book in the history of mankind, last prophet and messenger, that's enaugh for me to respect him more than anyone in the world, he's dead, it's true, but even him dead, he's worth much more than u and me, i waish i am a dead mohamed, but that's not logical for i am a living person who is not worth to be a successor or to have free will.

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                      huruf
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                      I also think that love for the Prophet and love and respect for the Qur'an only as the word of God are not only not contradictory, but go hand in hand. It is no mean feat to have been able to transmit whole and faithful the revelation, complete, word by word. Nobody has done that before the Prophet Muhammad. We must be thankful to God for him and must have for Muhammad, as God's beloved envoy, a sincere respect and reverence, as a most brilliant creature of our Sovereign. We cannot respect the Qur'an and think at the same time that its transmissi?n faithfully to us was some chance occurrence, and not an act of love for mankind, from God, and from His envoy.

                      On the other hand it is understandable that where there have been excesses one way, there should be excesses afterwards the other way. We should try to avoid them.

                      Salaam

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                        Ayisha
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                        I honestly became a quran only person, but the truth must be said, most quranists people feel their heart tight when they hear mohamed's name, it bothers them, not all of them but most of them, mohamed is the enemy, they even respect rashad khalfa but not mohamed, they respect abraham too much but not mohamed, they praise scientists and some philosphers and some of them even calls them messengers, but not mohamed
                        Open your eyes Quran only people, we're all a nobody, knicknames on the internet, people who wants to learn of each other, but if u hear the name of mohamed, give some respect for the greated ruler in the history of mankind , is it me who is saying this??? no , it's allah
                        wa kountoum khayra umatin ukhrijet linness
                        you are the best nation that came out to mankind
                        that is mohamed's generation , the kingdom he established
                        if his nation was the best nation in the history of mankind, than their ruler ( mohamed ) is the greatest rueler in the history of mankind
                        whether you like it or not, if you say to me no, that's not true, than I tell u yoy are liars and it is allah who said the truth about mohamed

                        Did you read the entire 22 pages before you came up with this?

                        Answer me this, how can anyone who follows Quran NOT love and respect prophet Muhammed?

                        Nowhere on these pages does anyone ever say that apart from the accusers who prefer to worship him along with Allah. Those who cannot see that praise and worship is for Allah alone and Muhammed's duty was to deliever a message, this is not my words but Allah Himself says this. For a Quran aloner Muhammed could NEVER be the enemy. It seems you have gone through and picked up certain people's wild accusations without bothering to check if they are true or not!

                        for the record, I an not a 19er, I do not follow or even respect Khalifa. I love and respect all prophet's of Allah and make no distinction among any of them as 2.285 instructs.

                        the best nation of mankind are the Muslims, those that follow what the prophet's followed, not the nation of Quraish or Arabs but those that follow what was revealed as the prophet did.

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                          Mazhar
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                          Those who cannot see that praise and worship is for Allah alone and Muhammed's duty was to deliever a message, this is not my words but Allah Himself says this.

                          Praise- What is its definition, meanings, perception, and how is it reflected for others?

                          Worship-What is its definition, meanings, perception, and how is it reflected for others that someone is worshipping?

                          What are those "symptoms" where one could be alleged that he is "worshipping" the Messenger of Allah?

                          I wish one is restricted to specifics.

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                            Emil
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                            I decided to don't post anymore , a lot of people here disrespect me, i love my mother and father, and i love the prophet the same way, i love allah more than all of them, but keeping degrading the prophet like that , i noticed that most of you act as if they do really understand the quran better than prophet mohamed, no wonder a lot of u are calling themselves messengers

                            Dear Loxbox

                            I am surprised that you have found people here on this forum that calls themselves messengers, because I take it that you mean people putting themselves to the same rank as Mohammed? Please link, I am very curious.

                            I honestly became a quran only person, but the truth must be said, most quranists people feel their heart tight when they hear mohamed's name, it bothers them, not all of them but most of them, mohamed is the enemy, they even respect rashad khalfa but not mohamed, they respect abraham too much but not mohamed, they praise scientists and some philosphers and some of them even calls them messengers, but not mohamed
                            Open your eyes Quran only people, we're all a nobody, knicknames on the internet, people who wants to learn of each other, but if u hear the name of mohamed, give some respect for the greated ruler in the history of mankind , is it me who is saying this??? no , it's allah

                            Dear Loxbox
                            Have you ever considered all the hadiths that write about Mohammed in a very, very, very immoral way. What direction he stands when peeing, Mohammed talking openly about sexual intercourses with his wife Ayisha, etc. etc. The followers of these hadiths love and respect Mohammed so much they even try to look like him. If that is not irony then I don't know what is.
                            How can you make us into Mohammed haters when all we do is see him for what he was, a messenger of God, the one who delivered the Quran?

                            Please do not mix 19 with QA, I (and probably some more active on this forum) spent too much time getting people to see there is a difference.

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                              I honestly became a quran only person, but the truth must be said, most quranists people feel their heart tight when they hear mohamed's name, it bothers them, not all of them but most of them, mohamed is the enemy, they even respect rashad khalfa but not mohamed, they respect abraham too much but not mohamed, they praise scientists and some philosphers and some of them even calls them messengers, but not mohamed
                              Open your eyes Quran only people, we're all a nobody, knicknames on the internet, people who wants to learn of each other, but if u hear the name of mohamed, give some respect for the greated ruler in the history of mankind , is it me who is saying this??? no , it's allah
                              wa kountoum khayra umatin ukhrijet linness
                              you are the best nation that came out to mankind
                              that is mohamed's generation , the kingdom he established
                              if his nation was the best nation in the history of mankind, than their ruler ( mohamed ) is the greatest rueler in the history of mankind
                              whether you like it or not, if you say to me no, that's not true, than I tell u yoy are liars and it is allah who said the truth about mohamed

                              Peace,

                              This is an honest observation and I agree with you assessment. Many people here act like their wisdom is equal to or greater than that of Prophet Muhammad. And if you carefully read their writing you will find that they are contradictory, incoherent and they are clueless as to the implication of their writing. These people know not to perform brain surgery on other because they realize they don?t have the knowledge and the skill to do so but when it comes to the religion they think they are on the top. In my opinion, this is an egoistic behavior.

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                                Peace,

                                This is an honest observation and I agree with you assessment. Many people here act like their wisdom is equal to or greater than that of Prophet Muhammad. And if you carefully read their writing you will find that they are contradictory, incoherent and they are clueless as to the implication of their writing. These people know not to perform brain surgery on other because they realize they dont have the knowledge and the skill to do so but when it comes to the religion they think they are on the top. In my opinion, this is an egoistic behavior.

                                Dear Guest

                                I think you are confusing yourself with Muhammed.

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                                  Ayisha
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                                  Dear Guest

                                  I think you are confusing yourself with Muhammed.

                                  But Muhammed would have answered questions and he would have explained things when asked to.

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                                    Mazhar
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                                    But Muhammed would have answered questions and he would have explained things when asked to.

                                    Now I can reiterate

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                                    Those who cannot see that praise and worship is for Allah alone and Muhammed's duty was to deliever a message, this is not my words but Allah Himself says this.

                                    Praise- What is its definition, meanings, perception, and how is it reflected for others?

                                    Worship-What is its definition, meanings, perception, and how is it reflected for others that someone is worshipping?

                                    What are those "symptoms" where one could be alleged that he is "worshipping" the Messenger of Allah?

                                    I wish one is restricted to specifics.

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                                      Ayisha
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                                      But Muhammed would have answered questions and he would have explained things when asked to.

                                      Now I can reiterate

                                      this has what exactly to do with guest not answering any questions or explaining when asked but repeatedly telling people they are wrong and know nothing?

                                      I may come back and answer your questions when I have more time, or I may not bother. I may take a leaf from your book and avoid answering it altogether.

                                      I will leave you with verse 2.285 to ponder during your wait.

                                      The Messenger believeth in what hath been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one (of them) believeth in Allah, His angels, His books, and His messengers. "We make no distinction (they say) between one and another of His messengers." And they say "We hear, and we obey (We seek) Thy forgiveness, our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys."

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                                        Mazhar
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                                        Now I can reiterate

                                        I will leave you with verse 2.285 to ponder during your wait.

                                        The Messenger believeth in what hath been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one (of them) believeth in Allah, His angels, His books, and His messengers. "We make no distinction (they say) between one and another of His messengers." And they say "We hear, and we obey (We seek) Thy forgiveness, our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys."

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                                        in a state that they the believers "We do not cause discrimination about a single one from amongst the Messengers of Him".

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                                          Ayisha
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                                          in a state that they the believers "We do not cause discrimination about a single one from amongst the Messengers of Him".

                                          yes i did. what is your point? Distinguish, differentiate, separate, divide are different to discriminate that is in your translation.

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