Praise Be to Muhammad rasool Allah
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Salam Rajaaah
,How then if We brought from each people a witness, and We brought thee as a witness against these people! Surah Nisaa
The whole verse is
Thus, when the day (of judgment) comes, we will call upon a witness from each community, and you (the messenger) will serve as a witness among these people.
Witnessing happens on Judgment Day and it?s not only Prophet Mohammad who would serve as witness to his people but all the messengers/prophets as the verse teaches.
The verse doesn?t teach that prophet or any other prophets for that matter would serve as a witness in what we have done in their absence. The reason they serve as witness is related to testify what they delivered to his people/ us .The point is clear in below verse;The day will come when we raise from every community a witness, then those who disbelieved will not be permitted (to speak), nor will they be excused.
Believing is in regard/related to the message of God that they were raised/chosen to deliver it not as a person?..Messengers of God without Message are an ordinary person?.the whole point of believing in them is for the messages that they carried/delivered to us??.They would testify that they only delivered what they were told by God not some thing like Hadith&sunna/man made laws etc.
Here are the verses that remind us what prophet?s mission was and for that he would testify to it as a witness
619-Say, "Whose testimony is the greatest?" Say, "GOD's. He is the witness between me and you that this Quran has been inspired to me, to preach it to you and whomever it reaches. Indeed, you bear witness that there are other gods* beside GOD." Say, "I do not testify as you do; there is only one god, and I disown your idolatry."
Other verses which shed light on what was said are in below
5116-GOD will say, "O Jesus, son of Mary, did you say to the people, `Make me and my mother idols beside GOD?' " He will say, "Be You glorified. I could not utter what was not right. Had I said it, You already would have known it. You know my thoughts, and I do not know Your thoughts. You know all the secrets.
5117-"I told them only what You commanded me to say, that `You shall worship GOD, my Lord and your Lord.' I was a witness among them for as long as I lived with them. When You terminated my life on earth, You became the Watcher over them. You witness all things.
And following verses too confirm how prophet serves as witness on Judgment Day.
We thus made you an impartial community, that you may serve as witnesses among the people, and the messenger serves as a witness among you?.
The day will come when we will raise from every community a witness from among them, and bring you as the witness of these people. We have revealed to you this book to provide explanations for everything, and guidance, and mercy, and good news for the submitters.
??... Thus, the messenger shall serve as a witness among you, and you shall serve as witnesses among the people. Therefore, you shall observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat), and hold fast to GOD; He is your Lord, the best Lord and the best Supporter.
O prophet, we have sent you as a witness, a bearer of good news, as well as a warner.
,Secondly if a creation of Allah has some of attributes of Allah how can he be called Allah?
My impression of witnessing as you wrote was that prophet can hear you although he?s dead therefore must be every where that can .BTW what?s got witnessing to do with hearing your salam on him? Could you please explain your concept?
,I no where meant that the prophet is present every where and can see every thing and every body, but till the extent Allah allows.
Could you please quote a verse where God teaches us He has allowed prophet to be as you mean which is unclear what you mean?
And you didn?t answer to 1933?..I?m really interested to know how you understand this verse.
Asana
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Muhammad peace is upon him was the greatest Monotheist and we follow him as per command of Allah.
Salaam. Raaajah, are you demonstrating a perfect example of "divinizing" the messenger? In the first place, who decided that prophet Muhammad was the greatest monotheist, why did you arbitrarily deduce this conclusion? If you give 100/100 marks to Muhammad for his monotheism how much does Abraham get? Since what you mean is that Abraham, Moses, Jesus etc score lesser than Muhammad on a monotheism scale because as you say only "Muhammad is the greatest Monotheist".
Should remember he was chosen for the message to be delivered and not only to deliver but to practically implement it successfully; the most important task you may have skipped. Therefore he is NO ordinary man but the Chosen one the SEAL.
Say, "I am but a human being like you, being inspired that your god is One god.
Is there any verse that makes it more clear that Muhammad IS an ordinary person ? Think through Quran, not through your emotions.
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Riazuddin
Salaam
Is there any verse that makes it more clear that Muhammad IS an ordinary person ? Think through Quran, not through your emotions.
A person without emotions is a robot. There are several verses of Quran, in fact every verse of Quran indicates that Muhammad Peace is upon him is NO ordinary person. One needs an eye opening in your mind for that. Several verses have been discussed on several pages of this thread you may visit them before arriving at any conclusion.
Salaam. Raaajah, are you demonstrating a perfect example of "divinizing" the messenger? In the first place, who decided that prophet Muhammad was the greatest monotheist, why did you arbitrarily deduce this conclusion? If you give 100/100 marks to Muhammad for his monotheism how much does Abraham get? Since what you mean is that Abraham, Moses, Jesus etc score lesser than Muhammad on a monotheism scale because as you say only "Muhammad is the greatest Monotheist".
No You are wrong!
Quran decided that Muhammad peace is upon him is the greatest Monotheist.
Through Quran.
Abraham gets 100%.
I never rated any one on any scale.
I never said only; Muhammad peace is upon him is one of the greatest.Say, "I am but a human being like you, being inspired that your god is One god.
Ayat quoted at wrong time dear Hassan. People at that time criticized that how come a messenger be a human?, he should be an Angel, or some other creation one with super natural powers and miracles. Allah answers the above quote.
This ayat confirms that he was an EXTRA ORDINARY human being, a human being in billions who was chosen by Allah.
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Salaam Asana,
Let us go back to the verses quoted by mmkhan.
Your logic is that in these verses Allah is sending Salaam on prophets and we should not; that is what I understood from your posts. Correct me if I am wrong, because without knowing your exact position I am unable to comment. Read the following verse
They said "Dost thou wonder at Allah's decree? the grace of Allah and His blessings on you, o ye people of the house! for He is indeed worthy of all praise, full of all glory!"
Who are "they"? off course not Allah, Allah sends blessings and Salaam on prophets AND so do the Angels following Allah and so do we dear Asana. I can't just understand a bit of your logic for not allowing to say us Salaam to prophets.
read this again
Peace upon Ilyaas We perpetuated his praise in the later generations, this is how we repay for the good deeds.from Surah 37
Asana
And you didn?t answer to 1933?..I?m really interested to know how you understand this verse.
read 1915
and then read Al-Muminoon 99-101, after that we may discuss are the prophets and martyrs alive or not? and is it us who cannot perceive or something else.
Asana
Believing is in regard/related to the message of God that they were raised/chosen to deliver it not as a person?..Messengers of God without Message are an ordinary person?.the whole point of believing in them is for the messages that they carried/delivered to us??.They would testify that they only delivered what they were told by God not some thing like Hadith&sunna/man made laws etc.
You may scroll back a page to see my reply to this absurd claim. An ordinary person cannot deliver the message of Allah, he has to be extra ordinary.
Raja on January 14, 2011
That is simply a misleading statement. How can a message earn a respect if it is to be delivered by a person who is drunk, steals, embezzles,lies,and lives a life for himself. The messenger is the most important part of the system that Allah has made to listen to his commands and implement it.
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Quran decided that Muhammad peace is upon him is the greatest Monotheist.
Can you please remind me which verse of the Quran declares Muhammad as the greatest monotheist ?
in fact every verse of Quran indicates that Muhammad Peace is upon him is NO ordinary person.
Judge your own self on this one, the depth of this wrong statement is immeasurable !!
2165 Among the people are some who take other than God as equals to Him, they love them as they love God; but those who acknowledge love God more strongly.
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Salaam,
No You are wrong!
Quran decided that Muhammad peace is upon him is the greatest Monotheist.
Through Quran.
Abraham gets 100%.
I never rated any one on any scale.
I never said only; Muhammad peace is upon him is one of the greatest.Mohammed (AS) with "peace is upon him"
Ibrahim (AS) ???
I make no difference in Prophets
May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr
Mohammed M. Khan -
Paradox Uncreated
I suggest you read it!It's impossible, it would put me to sleep.
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Riazuddin
Can you please remind me which verse of the Quran declares Muhammad as the greatest monotheist ?
Salaam
Yes! "but they won't believe"
"What thing is most weighty in evidence?" Say "Allah is witness between me and you; This Qur'an hath been revealed to me by inspiration, that I may warn you and all whom it reaches. Can ye possibly bear witness that besides Allah there is another Allah?" Say "Nay! I cannot bear witness!" Say "But in truth He is the one Allah, and I truly am innocent of joining others with Him."
Say, "Is it other than Allah I should take as a protector, Creator of the heavens and the earth, while it is He who feeds and is not fed?" Say, , "Indeed, I have been commanded to be the first who submit and 'Do not ever be of the polytheists.' "
He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the Religion of Truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion, however much the idolaters may be averse.
It is not a difficult task to interlink these ayats.
Allah ho Akbar!
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Hasan Bin Izhar
Salaam
Yes! "but they won't believe"
"What thing is most weighty in evidence?" Say "Allah is witness between me and you; This Qur'an hath been revealed to me by inspiration, that I may warn you and all whom it reaches. Can ye possibly bear witness that besides Allah there is another Allah?" Say "Nay! I cannot bear witness!" Say "But in truth He is the one Allah, and I truly am innocent of joining others with Him."
Say, "Is it other than Allah I should take as a protector, Creator of the heavens and the earth, while it is He who feeds and is not fed?" Say, , "Indeed, I have been commanded to be the first who submit and 'Do not ever be of the polytheists.' "
He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the Religion of Truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion, however much the idolaters may be averse.
It is not a difficult task to interlink these ayats.
Allah ho Akbar!
Interlink what, Raajah? interlink these with elevating the prophet to some arbitrary rank that you decided for him? This message is a simple one and the same message of monotheism which all the prophets and messengers were asked to deliver. How does Muhammad become elevated among all the messengers for delivering this message? Instead of stressing on the message you find it important to praise the messenger, but is this going to benefit you? And why are you not that generous in praising other messengers?
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Can you please remind me which verse of the Quran declares Muhammad as the greatest monotheist ?Hasan Bin Izhar
Salaam
Yes! "but they won't believe"
"What thing is most weighty in evidence?" Say "Allah is witness between me and you; This Qur'an hath been revealed to me by inspiration, that I may warn you and all whom it reaches. Can ye possibly bear witness that besides Allah there is another Allah?" Say "Nay! I cannot bear witness!" Say "But in truth He is the one Allah, and I truly am innocent of joining others with Him."
Say, "Is it other than Allah I should take as a protector, Creator of the heavens and the earth, while it is He who feeds and is not fed?" Say, , "Indeed, I have been commanded to be the first who submit and 'Do not ever be of the polytheists.' "
He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the Religion of Truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion, however much the idolaters may be averse.
It is not a difficult task to interlink these ayats.
Allah ho Akbar!
Raaajah may I add
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Like that obliging beneficence that We have since sent/appointed-declared among you as the Messenger who was perpetually and persistently a believer-Muslim from amongst you. He keeps reciting, word by word/syllable by syllable for you people, Our Aa'ya'at/verbal statements conveying information, facts, and thus uplifts/sanctifies/elevates you and educates/instructs/teaches you people the Book and wisdom/the invisible information/data . And he tells you the knowledge/information/data which hitherto you did not have .
While reading Grand Qur'aan it must be kept in mind that it was gradually and intermittently revealed and communicated to people who were the contemporary of the period of its revelation. Therefore whatever is elided, while conveying a new Ayat-verbal presentation of information, was already in their knowledge and perception.
Arabs dislike using larger quantity of words and convey voluminous information by employing minimum words which also reflects that the Arabic language regards its listener and reader as a responsible, attentive and intelligent person who focuses his concentration of listening and perception faculties on that which is being stated.The structuring of sentences of Grand Qur'aan is unique and unparallel. The beauty inherent in such structuring is that its meanings and perception remains the same from the perspective of its first listeners and those who read it in written text afterwards.
The elided adjective between -is the peculiar trait of the person appointed and declared as the Messenger, which was known and was an acknowledged/accepted fact for the people who listened this sentence at the time of its revelation.
Since the posterity, who understand the structuring of Arabic sentences, could presume any positive trait and attribute it to the Messenger as elided adjective, Allah has specifically made it clear, as to what that adjectival trait is, in the Ayat 3164
"Indeed Allah had conferred beneficence/ indebtedness upon the Believers when He appointed a Revivalist/ re-Awakener as Messenger from amongst them "
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Salaam Mazhar Sahib,
At the top as usual.
Actually this can only happen when a transition takes place in one's life. Lately i was reading Mumtaz Mufti's "Labaik" and at many times in my mind during this reading your name popped up, i don't know why?.
May Allah bless you further with understanding of Quran and love for Muhmmmad peace is upon him, I have learned a lot from you.
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mmkhan
Mohammed (AS) with "peace is upon him"
Ibrahim (AS) Huh?
Thanks for pointing that out, actually Mazhar had once guided me to use a tab for this so I don't have to retype it again and again, which I was unable to, may be it gives me pleasure to retype every time I use name of Muhammad peace is upon him..
But be sure dear that it is not because of disrespect of some one, When ever I talk about Hazrat Ibraheem it is with respect as Quran has told us to, will take care next time. -
mmkhan
Thanks for pointing that out, actually Mazhar had once guided me to use a tab for this so I don't have to retype it again and again, which I was unable to, may be it gives me pleasure to retype every time I use name of Muhammad peace is upon him..
But be sure dear that it is not because of disrespect of some one, When ever I talk about Hazrat Ibraheem it is with respect as Quran has told us to, will take care next time.You are welcome
Muhammad peace is upon him..
Hazrat Ibraheem ???
This really shows your love towards Mohammed (AS) only.
2136
2136 Say We believe in Allah and in what was sent down to us and what was sent down to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and what was given to Moses and Jesus, and what was given to the prophets from their Lord; we do not make a distinction between any of them and to Him we submit.
2285
2285 The messenger believes in what was sent down to him from his Lord; and the believers, all who believe in Allah, and His angels, and His Books, and His messengers We do not make a distinction between any of His messengers; and they said We hear and obey, forgive us our Lord, and to you is our destiny.
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4152 And those who believe in Allah and His messengers and do not make a distinction between any of them, We will give them their recompense. And Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
May Allah guide us all to the path of the Truth pr
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mmkhan
Thanks for pointing that out, actually Mazhar had once guided me to use a tab for this so I don't have to retype it again and again, which I was unable to, may be it gives me pleasure to retype every time I use name of Muhammad peace is upon him..
But be sure dear that it is not because of disrespect of some one, When ever I talk about Hazrat Ibraheem it is with respect as Quran has told us to, will take care next time.classic example of personality cult devotee !!
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Raaaja salam,
It is a good read.
?Why don't you dare writing your DOGS story in English? This is not an Urdu forum.
So, I understand now that you not only take Bukhari, Muslim, ....... but you also take "Qudrat Shahaab" also for your guidance, MashaAllah.
May Allah give you THE BEST REWARD for the same and guide us to His path. pr
Mohammed M. Khan
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We Quran alone muslims have no issues with dogs, so I don't mind being called one. But Mazhar, your etiquette are "commendable".