Study on Quranist, Quran alone, Quranites ect.
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Salam Alaikum everybody and thank you for your time.
My Name is Jonas. I'm 26 old and I'm studing politics, history and religion of the Middle East at the university in Copenhagen.
This semester i've chosen a course called "Lived Islam" which is a course about different types of Islam. I've long been lurking on your great page here and wanted to make my exam assignment on the Quranist ( to put it under one name).
I've read the books by Rashid Khalifa, Edip Yuksel, Kassim Ahmad ect and now I wanted to hear from the believers if you would be so kind answering some short questions about yourself it would be greatly appreciated.Dear Jonas,
I am interested in the results of your research. I will share this with some of my contacts and try to direct them here so that they post their answers. It would be interesting if you could also include a question about their political position on the so-called "war on terror". Or listing their list for top 5 problems facing the world and top 5 positive global events/developments or something like that. Perhaps, a question about how to promote the message of the Quran to masses might also elicit some creative and inspiring ideas.
As for the word Quranist, what about including a few alternatives too in your final introduction of this research, such as, non-sectarian Muslims, Rational Monotheists, Muslim Reformists, Peacemakers etc, since most of us do not call ourselves Quranists; it is a label generally used to depict us by our opponents.
PS You should also note the works of Layth al-Shaiban (Saudi Arabia), Prof. Caner Taslaman (Turkey), Dr. Abdur Rab (Bengladesh-USA), Prof. Aisha Musa (USA), Dr. Ahmad Mansour (Egypt-USA), Arnold Mol (Holland), Dr. Shabbir (Pakistan-USA), Dr. Asghar Engineer (India), Prof. Ali Fazely (Iran-USA), Wakas, Ayman, and few others.
You may post this at 19.org/forum site too.
Peace,
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Male/ Female Female
Age 15
Nationality American
Parents background ( if different from nationality) My mother is a Jamaican Brit.
Born as a Muslim? ( in a muslim family) Parents converted before I was born, so yes.
Level of education I'm in the 9th grade.
Are you from a city or from the country? City.
How did you first come to learn about Quranism ( for a lack of a better word) ? While I was trying to understand all the traditionalism I was learning in Saudi Arabia, and I stumbled upon this site.
And at what age? I was either 14 or 15.
Do you personaly know fellow Quranist or are you alone with your view in your social network? Well I have my family, but I do not know any one that follows Quran Alone.
Do you primarily reject Hadith on the basis of authority or authenticity? I'd say both, but for me the authority is why I reject it the most.
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I'm sorry, but the words "Quranism/Quranists" are a pet-peeve of mine... Please do not use this word to classify people who believe in God alone. We are simply Muslims who follow only the Qur'an. We are not sunnists/shites/quranist or any other man made word which implies or has defined boundaries.
6159 Those who have divided their system and become sects, you are not with them in anything. Their matter will be with God, then He will inform them of what they had done.sorry...had to get that of my chest...end of rant.....
Salaam )"quranist" is a common, descriptive noun. It is not a title/sect/a proper noun (and neither is muslim, but I digress) . There is no defined quranist ideology. Sects have very specific guidelines, you'll be hard pressed to find two 'quranists' who agree on the basic issues, and that's the beauty of it. Individuality. Choice. Discussion.
These other sects you speak of refer to themselves as Muslim as well. Unity for unity's sake is not logical. Does the Quran say its okay to align ourselves with people who are not in harmony? People who would declare you apostates? Suggesting 'quranism' is a sect is building a straw man argument. No quranist I know of refers to themselves as a part of some imaginary sect.
Anyways, this is off-topic, so If you want to discuss this further, create a new thread.
Peace
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First of all thank you all for contributing to the thread and answering my questions. I appreciate it a lot and hope that it will continue. bravo
to willreadit Thank you for your post. I would like to share my findings with you but I'm not sure that my level of investigation will be of any intrest to you. My exam will mostly be about defining the nature of " Quranism ", look at its arguments and historical background and because this is not known by ordinary scholars all this has to be explained first.
I made this poll to try to get a bigger picture of the believers and whether or not I would be able to see a pattern.to sonnie Thank you for your post. I understand your reasoning about the word Quranist but I used it to distiguish between the islam that people were born into and the islam that they are follwing now. Therefore I could not simply use the word "muslim" because it would have been confusing.
to Edip Yuksel Thank you for contributing. Like with willreadit I'm a humble to hear that you think you could benefit of my research unfortunately I doubt that it will actually be so. You've got a lot of great ideas for additional questions which I will take in consideration but I don't think with the amount of time I have avalible to this exam that I can reach that far in my research.
Thank you for pointing out additional works I will definitely look into that, some of them I know but a lot of them I don't so thanks again.
to Jack Thank you for answering on my behalf in regards to the use of the word " Quranism", it backed up the concept that I allready had on this issue. Thank you for contributing.
Peace everybody..
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Peace Jonas,
Also, I would like to make it a point that Dr. Khalifa is NOT affiliated with us. It is true that he urged a return to the Qur'an, as we do, but he also claimed himself to be a Messenger of God - a claim he directly invalidated when he admitted to molesting a minor. Those that follow Dr. Khalifa are in a different category all of their own. The herald him as a Messenger of God and get quite offended when people dare bring up the fact that he molested a minor. Following false Messengers is forbidden and thus why they are not of us.
I know that seems a bit elitist, but it follows the same logic as to why the Nation of Islam are not accepted as Muslims by the rest of the Muslim communities They follow a man who dubbed himself as Elijah Muhammad and formed a personalized version of Islam that is both racist and insulting to the Abrahamic faith.
Just thought I'd clarify sun
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Thank you Jinn for claryfying that. I'm aware that DR. Khalifa has some very different views in perhaps the most important issue but I still felt that it was a good idea to read his books because of his Quran only approach.
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Male/ Female Male
Age39
NationalityTurkish
Parents background ( if different from nationality)Born as a Muslim? ( in a muslim family) Yep
Level of education University graduate
Are you from a city or from the country? City
How did you first come to learn about Quranism ( for a lack of a better word) ? Research on Islam.
And at what age? 37Do you personaly know fellow Quranist or are you alone with your view in your social network? Just one more
Do you primarily reject Hadith on the basis of authority or authenticity? Both, all fabrication.
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Male/ Female Male
Age 29
Nationality USA
Parents background ( if different from nationality) USA
Born as a Muslim? ( in a muslim family) No, I am the only Muslim in a Christian family.
Level of education Doctor of Jurisprudence
Are you from a city or from the country? Born in the country, live in the city now.
How did you first come to learn about Quranism ( for a lack of a better word) ? Surfing the web and finding Free-Minds.org.
And at what age? 29 (I just took Shahadah about a month ago).
Do you personaly know fellow Quranist or are you alone with your view in your social network? Alone.
Do you primarily reject Hadith on the basis of authority or authenticity? I am perhaps not a true Qur'anist because I tend to accept the Hadith that make sense or seem reliable. I do, however, realize that hearsay is inherently unreliable and especially regarding religion there is a lot of motivation for fabrication. Hence I accept those Hadith that do not conflict with the Qur'an and seem beneficial.
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Salam, Peace,
Male/ Female Male
Age 39
Nationality Morrocan
Parents background ( if different from nationality)
Born as a Muslim? ( in a muslim family) as traditional muslim, becam muslim later.
Level of education bachelor
Are you from a city or from the country? city
How did you first come to learn about Quranism ( for a lack of a better word) ? personal investigation, books, internet, I started to read Dr Rashad Khalifa works.
And at what age? 28
Do you personaly know fellow Quranist or are you alone with your view in your social network? No
Do you primarily reject Hadith on the basis of authority or authenticity? authority
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Salam and Peace!
Is Denier of the names of Sahaba, out of Islam???
Read the following link, if you please
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602395.0
Dear Jonas_dk,
Please visit the link, and know the reason why the muslim ummah follow the ahadith, and why are there so many sects in the muslim ummah. -
Please don't spam the same post on different threads.
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Male/ Female Male
Age 24
Nationality Indonesia
Parents background ( if different from nationality)
Born as a Muslim? ( in a muslim family) Yes
Level of education College
Are you from a city or from the country? City
How did you first come to learn about Quranism ( for a lack of a better word) ? Research
And at what age? 20-21
Do you personaly know fellow Quranist or are you alone with your view in your social network? yes, my brother and sisters
Do you primarily reject Hadith on the basis of authority or authenticity? Both
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Peace Jonas.
Male/ Female Male
Age 30
Nationality American
Parents background ( if different from nationality)
Born as a Muslim? ( in a muslim family) baptised and raised catholic
Level of education trade school and some college
Are you from a city or from the country? A souther New Jersey suburb of Philadelphia
How did you first come to learn about Quranism ( for a lack of a better word) ? after researching miracles of Quran, learned about initialed chapters and 19
And at what age?27
Do you personaly know fellow Quranist or are you alone with your view in your social network? alone locally, but on internet I'm in contact with many
Do you primarily reject Hadith on the basis of authority or authenticity? Too many of them to read, life is short, I just want to follow God and his Messenger. The Quran is the authoritive messenger and miraculously it continues to authenticate itself. God knows Muhammad knew this.
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Male/ Female Female
Age 31
Nationality American
Parents background ( if different from nationality) same
Born as a Muslim? ( in a muslim family) no
Level of education Associate's
Are you from a city or from the country? Suburbs
How did you first come to learn about Quranism ( for a lack of a better word) ? 2 years ago
And at what age? 29
Do you personaly know fellow Quranist or are you alone with your view in your social network? Alone
Do you primarily reject Hadith on the basis of authority or authenticity? Both.
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Male/ Female Male
Age37
Nationality Swedish
Parents background ( if different from nationality)
Born as a Muslim? ( in a muslim family) No
Level of education University
Are you from a city or from the country? City
How did you first come to learn about Quranism ( for a lack of a better word) ? Searching by myself
And at what age? 35
Do you personaly know fellow Quranist or are you alone with your view in your social network? Except for pages like FM I have trouble finding QA?s
Do you primarily reject Hadith on the basis of authority or authenticity? If I had to choose between those two, Authenticity.
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Thank you for your answers Aynur and Emil.
It seems there is a pattern that slightly over half of the answers come from people who are born Christian and then have embraced the islamic faith later on.. Do you think that this applies to the entire forum in general?
Hope to hear from even more with answers on my questions and again thanks for the help..
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Here is my partners answers, he is not registered on this site
Male/ Female Male
Age 27
Nationality Lebanese
Parents background ( if different from nationality) Lebanese
Born as a Muslim? ( in a muslim family) yes
Level of education high school
Are you from a city or from the country? city
How did you first come to learn about Quranism ( for a lack of a better word) ? When I started to study my religion on my own rather than just be a blind follower. My wife opened my eyes to alot of things.
And at what age? 26
Do you personaly know fellow Quranist or are you alone with your view in your social network? Just my wife
Do you primarily reject Hadith on the basis of authority or authenticity? Both