Converting Iraqi Muslims to Christianity
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Its a big deal cause you make it so. It ain't a big deal to me. Anyways Muslims believe Muhamad has divine authority. The reason why they don't say Muhammad was divine is to transfer that authority to the ruler. However they gave him absolute divine authority. He has the authority to intriduce legislations like the Koran does, he can even abrogate the Koran and even contradict it. I fail to see why you see Muslim converting to Christianity as a bad deal.
Muslims give Prophet Mohamed (PBUH) insane powers. However, they do not think of him as a God or the son of God. Big difference )
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when there is a place of worship where love, forgiveness by 'God' is preached and you can come as you are but better if you come in your finest vs another place of worship where women enter from a side door or not at all where you worship this 'angry' God that you have to wash a certain way certain number of times and then have to pray a certain way, certain number of times. and if you don't then you are not a good practicing believer.
ok - if i had to choose, i would choose church over mosque. man created christianity over man created islam. sad that made created religions than God's religion is spreading may it be 'christianity' or 'islam'.
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when there is a place of worship where love, forgiveness by 'God' is preached and you can come as you are but better if you come in your finest vs another place of worship where women enter from a side door or not at all where you worship this 'angry' God that you have to wash a certain way certain number of times and then have to pray a certain way, certain number of times. and if you don't then you are not a good practicing believer.
ok - if i had to choose, i would choose church over mosque. man created christianity over man created islam. sad that made created religions than God's religion is spreading may it be 'christianity' or 'islam'.
I like that answer. Going to a mosque for any of us could be dangerous.
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I like that answer. Going to a mosque for any of us could be dangerous.
9108 Never stand thou forth therein. There is a mosque whose foundation was laid from the first day on piety; it is more worthy of the standing forth (for prayer) therein. In it are men who love to be purified; and Allah loveth those who make themselves pure.
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ok - if i had to choose, i would choose church over mosque. man created christianity over man created islam. sad that made created religions than God's religion is spreading may it be 'christianity' or 'islam'.
Why should it matter if there is a side entrance for women or washing rituals, when the Quran has given us clear guidance to search for a right mosque built on piety
9108 Never stand thou forth therein. There is a mosque whose foundation was laid from the first day on piety; it is more worthy of the standing forth (for prayer) therein. In it are men who love to be purified; and Allah loveth those who make themselves pure. -
Why should it matter if there is a side entrance for women or washing rituals, when the Quran has given us clear guidance to search for a right mosque built on piety
9108 Never stand thou forth therein. There is a mosque whose foundation was laid from the first day on piety; it is more worthy of the standing forth (for prayer) therein. In it are men who love to be purified; and Allah loveth those who make themselves pure.It matters to most Muslims just like praying 4 rika' for asr prayers matter. They are not that flexible and between Muslims and us is a luge wall. Its hard having a religious debate with Muslims, much harder than Christians.
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Why should it matter if there is a side entrance for women or washing rituals, when the Quran has given us clear guidance to search for a right mosque built on piety
9108 Never stand thou forth therein. There is a mosque whose foundation was laid from the first day on piety; it is more worthy of the standing forth (for prayer) therein. In it are men who love to be purified; and Allah loveth those who make themselves pure.is there a mosque where the foundation is laid from the Koran? if so where? i would like to attend that mosque.
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is there a mosque where the foundation is laid from the Koran? if so where? i would like to attend that mosque.
By then you'll be stepping your feet on the Koran...
Which many sectarians see that as an act of 'contempt', given that Koran is holy...
rotfl rotflSalam / Peace
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is there a mosque where the foundation is laid from the Koran? if so where? i would like to attend that mosque.
You are welcome to join me and one other brother in faith, who use my living room as a mosque on Fridays. That's as close as we can get to what you seek above.
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Weren't you once defending the Taliban? Whats the issue with you?
Not once but always I would defend those who need to be defended. In contrast you sound eerily similar to the heartless warmongers in Pentagon... "American administrations have stressed that the U.S. is at war with terrorists who have a distorted view of the religion"
http//www.hurriyetdailynews.com/pentagon-halts-class-teaching-anti-islam-material-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=19331&NewsCatID=358
hmm
In fact the ongoing wars are wars OF terror against those who refuse to submit to the Empire. So the real aim was not to throw Saddam Hussian out and establish democracy, but to put the 'right' religion in dominance in Iraq. bravo -
Not once but always I would defend those who need to be defended. In contrast you sound eerily similar to the heartless warmongers in Pentagon... "American administrations have stressed that the U.S. is at war with terrorists who have a distorted view of the religion"
http//www.hurriyetdailynews.com/pentagon-halts-class-teaching-anti-islam-material-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=19331&NewsCatID=358
hmm
In fact the ongoing wars are wars OF terror against those who refuse to submit to the Empire. So the real aim was not to throw Saddam Hussian out and establish democracy, but to put the 'right' religion in dominance in Iraq. bravoI don't think you are a Koranist. First you say I am a defender of the AmericanEmpire, then you call me a Paulite Christian following some trend. I can't see how you are a Koranist.
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He is considered unclean(not paak) that is why he is sitting on the footpath- he isn't allowed to eat in a plate as the plate will become unclean too, sorry that is what i learnt when i was young and lived in Pakistan, and now feel disgust at such a teaching.
how are they creating trouble? surely not if they are merely teaching their bible!Where are the facts?
peace!
Salaam
The reason is that most Muslims in Pakistan and India were originally Hindus and still carry much of the Hindu mindset.
These are the facts
It was Harijaan, the untouchable, who were targeted by the Colonial powers, and which lead them to convert to Christanity, but in the real world they were never given the same status as the Hindus or Muslims. This idea of paak and napaak is what Hindu upper class or Brahmin did when they accidently touched "A'choot" they rushed, chanting Ram Ram, to purify themselves with Ganga water.
However there were many untouchable who became Muslim, like the ones in Shri Lanka and in India and Pakistan too. Sadly they are often discriminated against on the basis of their dark colour.
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I don't think you are a Koranist. First you say I am a defender of the AmericanEmpire, then you call me a Paulite Christian following some trend. I can't see how you are a Koranist.
I don't call myself Koranist I call myself a muslim who upholds Quran over all other teachings. I reject anything that clashes with the Qur'an.
Please do not put words into my mouth I said you sound eerily similar to the heartless warmongers in Pentagon
Secondly it is you who is defending Paul by bringing up some remote quotes from him to prove Paul never claimed Jesus was God and never did he ever say that God is a Trinity similar to some hediths you dig up against Sunnies.
peace