Warmonger

YAMU

how you can speak with wisdom and intelligence to Sunnis and Shiites and say that? Even if they are misguided, we can not put them on one level with pre-Islamic Quraischs . There are many moderate Sunnis who know very well the problems of the traditions, but are trapped in their wrong thinkings. We should pray for them, not curse them. God gives us permission to fight if we are attacked, but he never gives us the right to insult other obscene.
peace peace

Well said.

Student_of_Allah

Salam

how you can speak with wisdom and intelligence to Sunnis and Shiites and say that? Even if they are misguided, we can not put them on one level with pre-Islamic Quraischs . There are many moderate Sunnis who know very well the problems of the traditions, but are trapped in their wrong thinkings. We should pray for them, not curse them.
God gives us permission to fight if we are attacked, but he never gives us the right to insult other obscene.
peace peace

Shalom Aleikhem,

Please do not take my statements out of context.

First, we are discussing only about the ones that are determined to attack me, not the good ones. Let me demonstrate them by highlighting my quote

3.What will you do if Sunni and Shiah wanna kill you because of Quran alone?

Try to reason with them and make them understand that its not the way. Try to convince them to not harm me and tolerate my theological disposition. If they still want war and attack, I will try my best to obliterate even the last spec of dust that used to be one of the ones that attacked me. I will rain down a godly firestorm upon them, I will ........hmmm let me express myself with a quote from a movie (edited to fit in our context). This is what I would say

"oh ok! Sunni/shia mullah; fuk face; first, take a big step back and littarly F**K YOUR OWN FACE! Now I don?t know what kind of pampas hitten bullshit power play your trying to pull here, but my freedom is my territory, so whatever your thinking; you better think again; otherwise I?m going to have to head down there and I will rain down in a godly fck?n fire storm upon you, your going to have to call the fck?n United Nation to get a fck?n binding resolution to keep me from fck?n destroying you! I Am Talking Scorched Earth Mother F**ker! I will Massacre You! I WILL FCK YOU UP!"

However, should they surrender/want peace, I will give it to them. I will stop my attacks and send them the message of Qur'an.

So, I do not really see what you object to. My protocol is simple , effective, rational, just and merciful

Reason
IF THEY ATTACK and declare war, do not be a coward, slay them wherever you find them.
BUT IF LATER THEY WANT PEACE, give them peace and remind them the beautiful reminder of guidance from God.

You see my friend, when the enemies are after your life and will not reason, hippy bullsh*t doesnt work. Wake up, this world isnt a Hippy land. If you simply pray for them as they come to slay you and your family and friends, you are tolerating their injustice and their slaying of innocents. And my God and me, we do not tolerate such things. However, we are open to repentance.

Peace
------------ Student of Allah

mirjamnur

Salam Student of Allah

You see my friend, when the enemies are after your life and will not reason, hippy bullsh*t doesnt work. Wake up, this world isnt a Hippy land. If you simply pray for them as they come to slay you and your family and friends, you are tolerating their injustice and their slaying of innocents. And my God and me, we do not tolerate such things. However, we are open to repentance.

i'm not a friend of ' hippy bullsh*t'. ( ;D i'm not sooooooooooo old)
I would fight with everything I could find, if they attack me. But I would not entitle them with bullsh * ht * or F * ck or
motherf * cker.
i hope you understand my point.
Peace

Jafar

Salam Student of Allah
i'm not a friend of ' hippy bullsh*t'. ( ;D i'm not sooooooooooo old)
I would fight with everything I could find, if they attack me. But I would not entitle them with bullsh * ht * or F * ck or
motherf * cker.
i hope you understand my point.
Peace

Yup agree... it's too mild.. say this instead

FAY-FAY duh PEE-yen
Baboon's A**hole
Huh choo-shung tza-jiao duh tzang-huo
Livestock F**kers
Da-shiang bao-tza shr duh lah doo-tze
Explosive feces of elephant

Mandarin chinese.. the best language for cursing..

Salam / Peace

YAMU

Salam all,

I'd like logical answer, not ideal clue, please.

Student_of_Allah

Shalom Aleikhem,

Salam Student of Allah
i'm not a friend of ' hippy bullsh*t'. ( ;D i'm not sooooooooooo old)
I would fight with everything I could find, if they attack me. But I would not entitle them with bullsh * ht * or F * ck or
motherf * cker.
i hope you understand my point.
Peace

Best of luck welcoming the enemy in your house to kill you, kill your loved ones and rape them. I really hope no one in the universe takes your advice when it comes to warfare. I did get your point, its unrealistic and has to place in the real world. Its for kids that dream that at the end of the story the prince will come ridding in a unicorn.

Oh...and by the way, the thing you read in my post is from a movie, Tropic Thunder.

Yup agree... it's too mild.. say this instead

FAY-FAY duh PEE-yen
Baboon's A**hole
Huh choo-shung tza-jiao duh tzang-huo
Livestock F**kers
Da-shiang bao-tza shr duh lah doo-tze
Explosive feces of elephant

Mandarin chinese.. the best language for cursing..

Salam / Peace

lol... glad that atleast someone understands that its justified to be angry when its a GOD DAMN WAR.

Salam all,

I'd like logical answer, not ideal clue, please.

What logical answer ? define it please. Atleast I stated rational things that I would do in stead of dreaming about a prince coming to save me with a unicorn. Or is it that you are looking for something like that ? In that case you could have simply requested in the initial post that "Please come up with unrealistic hippy things and do not forget to lay it thick"

Peace
---------- Student of Allah

YAMU

Shalom Aleikhem,

What logical answer ? define it please. Atleast I stated rational things that I would do in stead of dreaming about a prince coming to save me with a unicorn. Or is it that you are looking for something like that ? In that case you could have simply requested in the initial post that "Please come up with unrealistic hippy things and do not forget to lay it thick"

Peace
---------- Student of Allah

Salam

Logical answer is the process of using a rational, systematic series of steps based on sound mathematical procedures and given statements to arrive at a conclusion, but your answers doesn't make sense.

Student_of_Allah

Salam

Logical answer is the process of using a rational, systematic series of steps based on sound mathematical procedures and given statements to arrive at a conclusion, but your answers doesn't make sense.

Shalom aleikhem,

My previous answer for some cases that I don't know enough to answer, and for the one that I could answer, the answer was

First reason with them
IF THEY STILL WANT WAR, then slay them.
BUT IF THEY WANT PEACE LATER, forgive them.

Since that did not make sense to you, here is an answer I made up for you

Do not reason, invite them to come over and kill your friends and family.
Do not make the slightest objection as they rape, loot and kill. Be a coward and allow them to practice such injustice.
At best, only pray that they rape you gently and kill relatively painlessly.

I hope your terms are met.

Peace
--------------- Student of Allah

youssef4342

Salamun 3alaikum
I have little clue on what you're talking about... (

mirjamnur

Salam Student of Allah
You didn't get my point?
I'll explain it to you

How to Muslims behave towards the Kafirs? Check out
3115 (be fair) ,6108 (do not insult),4133 (the best speech)

Question 2 How Muslims respond appropriately and with dignity on hostility and insults?
2563 (walking modestly on earth).,4134-36 (turn the bad with the better).3135 (be humble).4140 (don't sit with anybody ridicule Allah)

Question 3 How to behave as Muslims in anger and rage?
4236-43 (Evil can give back with evil, those who forgive has reward from God),3134 (suppress the anger and pardon)

Question 5 Which behavior have submitted to God?
486 (right greeting)494 (investigate carefully)
We should as a devotee always nice words on the best way to use, be humble and meek, etc.
1424-25 Do you not see how God cites the parable of the good word? He compares the good word with a good tree whose roots are firmly in the ground and whose branches extend high into the sky. It bears fruit with God's permission for some time. God cites the parables for men, that they are concerned.

3119 Jump modest step, and lower your voice! The ugliest voice is the donkey. "

16125 a charge to the path of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching, and debating with them on the best way! Your Lord is He Who knows best who turns away from His Path and who finds the right line.

3159 And (just) because of the grace of God you were gentle towards them. But you were harsh, have been hard-hearted, they would certainly leave you. Thus they forgive, ask forgiveness for them and consult them about the whole affair. If you take a decision, put your trust in God, for God loves those who rely on Him.

1322 the wait out of desire for the Face of their Lord, doing the contact prayers, donations of gifts of God publicly and secretly, and repel evil with good. The beautiful home you deserve in the afterlife.
Use of swearing and "bad words" to be arrogant to exploit nature without restraint, about other people not to mock represent a righteous behavior
1426 A bad word is like a bad tree which is uprooted from the earth and has no grip on the ground.

3118 do not treat people with arrogance and not wander on the earth carelessly. God loves not any arrogant boaster.

4911 O ye who believe! No man is allowed to make fun of another, perhaps this is better than him. No woman should scoff at another, perhaps this is better than them. Do not slander one another! Another says no bad words and bad names! There is nothing worse than to commit this crime, after accepting faith. Those who do not desist it is remorseful, truly the wrongdoers.
Devotee should NOT be suspicious and racist spy, and not slander
496 O ye who believe, if a wicked person brings you any news, it turns out an investigation, that ye harm people unwittingly, and injustice have to repent afterwards, what you did.

4912-13 O ye who believe! Avoids speculation, because it can be sinful! No spying on each other does not slander with slander! For example, someone wants to eat the flesh of his dead brother? As you hated it, hated the gossip! Fear God! God is full of mercy and accepts the repentance. O mankind, We created you from male and female and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know one another. Truly, God is the most honored of you, which is the most righteous. Verily, God is Knowing, Aware.

Question 4 What are the ideals of the Muslims? What are the main principles of righteousness?
3335 The devotees, the faithful, the obedient, the honest, patient, humble, the donors, fasting, the chaste and those who remember God unceasingly, whether they be men or women, God promised forgiveness and a high reward.
see also 70.22- 35, 25.64-66 and others

I don't see words like motherfcker and fck and other insults are characteristic for a believer. You think one second, what a motherf*cker is? Bad words has nothing to do with 'unicorn' and 'dreams'

Best of luck welcoming the enemy in your house to kill you, kill your loved ones and rape them. I really hope no one in the universe takes your advice when it comes to warfare. I did get your point, its unrealistic and has to place in the real world. Its for kids that dream that at the end of the story the prince will come ridding in a unicorn.

i never said i will welcome them in my house. i will fight against the one who fight with me. but i will try to not insult. that's all. If you think i'm like a kid, then i'm sorry.
Peace

Abdul-Hadi

Greetings and Peace, all group

Salam all, I've been doubtful about warmonger. My question are

1.If there is a group of people wanna make genocide Muslims, what will you do?

Actively resist if they actually take actions toward their desires. Wanting to and desiring are not the same as having the means to--or actually being dangerous.

2.If you were Syrian people, what would you do?

Take a side or leave. I would never choose to be the "innocent bystander."

3.What will you do if Sunni and Shiah wanna kill you because of Quran alone?

If they want to kill that is one thing. If any takes actions to kill/harm then I will actively resist.

4.Do you agree with Syrian president?

No.

5.Do all Sunni scholars go to hell according to Quran?

No.

6.What is jihad according to Quran alone?

Struggle towards good, but not necessarily pertaining to violence.

May God shows us the right path

ALLAH knows best.

peace

~Abdul-Hadi

Bigmo

Salam all, I've been doubtful about warmonger. My question are

1.If there is a group of people wanna make genocide Muslims, what will you do?

2.If you were Syrian people, what would you do?

3.What will you do if Sunni and Shiah wanna kill you because of Quran alone?

4.Do you agree with Syrian president?

5.Do all Sunni scholars go to hell according to Quran?

6.What is jihad according to Quran alone?

May God shows us the right path

First of all Jihad is a general term used in the Quran for any form of stuggle for the faith. It can include fighting but not necessarily so. As far as fighting is concerned what student of Allah said is correct. We are to fight only for defensive purpose when we are being attacked. We can also fight when a believing party wrongfully attacks another believing party until the wrongfull party stops or is made to stop.

The Quran does not recognize wars of conquest or spreading religion etc.

As far as Syria's president he strikes me as just another dictator who knows most Syrians do not want his rule and want freedom but does not want to leave power even and is willing to kill. Just like Qaddafi and Husni Mubarak and Ali Saleh of Yemen. He will only leave by force.

Student_of_Allah

Shalom aleikhem mirjamnur,

I apologize if I misunderstood the point you tried to make. Let us try again

You didn't get my point?
I'll explain it to you

How to Muslims behave towards the Kafirs? Check out
3115 (be fair) ,6108 (do not insult),4133 (the best speech)

I was not writing about my behavior towards kafirs. I was writing about my response to anyone who declared war and is attacking me. So this example does not apply.

Question 2 How Muslims respond appropriately and with dignity on hostility and insults?
2563 (walking modestly on earth).,4134-36 (turn the bad with the better).3135 (be humble).4140 (don't sit with anybody ridicule Allah)

Once again, you wrongly assumed that the situation allows it. We are talking about a WAR and when the enemy already ATTACKED. Please kindly re-read what I wrote, I clearly mentioned that to help provide context.

Question 3 How to behave as Muslims in anger and rage?
4236-43 (Evil can give back with evil, those who forgive has reward from God),3134 (suppress the anger and pardon)

I strongly believe you are missing my context. Once again, the context is TOTAL WARFARE. Not an everyday dispute or a general remark from a traditionalist which is rude. Under no thought process will my brain cells ever calculate out that forgiving them when their bombers are flying towards my hometown is a good thing to do. If anything, I will become a support of his cause by doing that. Someone allowing injustice to go on like that is guilty as the oppressor too.