Warmonger
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Shalom Aleikhem,
Salam Student of Allah
i'm not a friend of ' hippy bullsh*t'. ( ;D i'm not sooooooooooo old)
I would fight with everything I could find, if they attack me. But I would not entitle them with bullsh * ht * or F * ck or
motherf * cker.
i hope you understand my point.
PeaceBest of luck welcoming the enemy in your house to kill you, kill your loved ones and rape them. I really hope no one in the universe takes your advice when it comes to warfare. I did get your point, its unrealistic and has to place in the real world. Its for kids that dream that at the end of the story the prince will come ridding in a unicorn.
Oh...and by the way, the thing you read in my post is from a movie, Tropic Thunder.
Yup agree... it's too mild.. say this instead
- FAY-FAY duh PEE-yen
Baboon's A**hole - Huh choo-shung tza-jiao duh tzang-huo
Livestock F**kers - Da-shiang bao-tza shr duh lah doo-tze
Explosive feces of elephant
Mandarin chinese.. the best language for cursing..
Salam / Peace
lol... glad that atleast someone understands that its justified to be angry when its a GOD DAMN WAR.
Salam all,
I'd like logical answer, not ideal clue, please.
What logical answer ? define it please. Atleast I stated rational things that I would do in stead of dreaming about a prince coming to save me with a unicorn. Or is it that you are looking for something like that ? In that case you could have simply requested in the initial post that "Please come up with unrealistic hippy things and do not forget to lay it thick"
Peace
---------- Student of Allah - FAY-FAY duh PEE-yen
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Shalom Aleikhem,
What logical answer ? define it please. Atleast I stated rational things that I would do in stead of dreaming about a prince coming to save me with a unicorn. Or is it that you are looking for something like that ? In that case you could have simply requested in the initial post that "Please come up with unrealistic hippy things and do not forget to lay it thick"
Peace
---------- Student of AllahSalam
Logical answer is the process of using a rational, systematic series of steps based on sound mathematical procedures and given statements to arrive at a conclusion, but your answers doesn't make sense.
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Salam
Logical answer is the process of using a rational, systematic series of steps based on sound mathematical procedures and given statements to arrive at a conclusion, but your answers doesn't make sense.
Shalom aleikhem,
My previous answer for some cases that I don't know enough to answer, and for the one that I could answer, the answer was
- First reason with them
- IF THEY STILL WANT WAR, then slay them.
- BUT IF THEY WANT PEACE LATER, forgive them.
Since that did not make sense to you, here is an answer I made up for you
- Do not reason, invite them to come over and kill your friends and family.
- Do not make the slightest objection as they rape, loot and kill. Be a coward and allow them to practice such injustice.
- At best, only pray that they rape you gently and kill relatively painlessly.
I hope your terms are met.
Peace
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Salamun 3alaikum
I have little clue on what you're talking about... ( -
Salam Student of Allah
You didn't get my point?
I'll explain it to youHow to Muslims behave towards the Kafirs? Check out
3115 (be fair) ,6108 (do not insult),4133 (the best speech)Question 2 How Muslims respond appropriately and with dignity on hostility and insults?
2563 (walking modestly on earth).,4134-36 (turn the bad with the better).3135 (be humble).4140 (don't sit with anybody ridicule Allah)Question 3 How to behave as Muslims in anger and rage?
4236-43 (Evil can give back with evil, those who forgive has reward from God),3134 (suppress the anger and pardon)Question 5 Which behavior have submitted to God?
486 (right greeting)494 (investigate carefully)
We should as a devotee always nice words on the best way to use, be humble and meek, etc.
1424-25 Do you not see how God cites the parable of the good word? He compares the good word with a good tree whose roots are firmly in the ground and whose branches extend high into the sky. It bears fruit with God's permission for some time. God cites the parables for men, that they are concerned.3119 Jump modest step, and lower your voice! The ugliest voice is the donkey. "
16125 a charge to the path of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching, and debating with them on the best way! Your Lord is He Who knows best who turns away from His Path and who finds the right line.
3159 And (just) because of the grace of God you were gentle towards them. But you were harsh, have been hard-hearted, they would certainly leave you. Thus they forgive, ask forgiveness for them and consult them about the whole affair. If you take a decision, put your trust in God, for God loves those who rely on Him.
1322 the wait out of desire for the Face of their Lord, doing the contact prayers, donations of gifts of God publicly and secretly, and repel evil with good. The beautiful home you deserve in the afterlife.
Use of swearing and "bad words" to be arrogant to exploit nature without restraint, about other people not to mock represent a righteous behavior
1426 A bad word is like a bad tree which is uprooted from the earth and has no grip on the ground.3118 do not treat people with arrogance and not wander on the earth carelessly. God loves not any arrogant boaster.
4911 O ye who believe! No man is allowed to make fun of another, perhaps this is better than him. No woman should scoff at another, perhaps this is better than them. Do not slander one another! Another says no bad words and bad names! There is nothing worse than to commit this crime, after accepting faith. Those who do not desist it is remorseful, truly the wrongdoers.
Devotee should NOT be suspicious and racist spy, and not slander
496 O ye who believe, if a wicked person brings you any news, it turns out an investigation, that ye harm people unwittingly, and injustice have to repent afterwards, what you did.4912-13 O ye who believe! Avoids speculation, because it can be sinful! No spying on each other does not slander with slander! For example, someone wants to eat the flesh of his dead brother? As you hated it, hated the gossip! Fear God! God is full of mercy and accepts the repentance. O mankind, We created you from male and female and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know one another. Truly, God is the most honored of you, which is the most righteous. Verily, God is Knowing, Aware.
Question 4 What are the ideals of the Muslims? What are the main principles of righteousness?
3335 The devotees, the faithful, the obedient, the honest, patient, humble, the donors, fasting, the chaste and those who remember God unceasingly, whether they be men or women, God promised forgiveness and a high reward.
see also 70.22- 35, 25.64-66 and othersI don't see words like motherfcker and fck and other insults are characteristic for a believer. You think one second, what a motherf*cker is? Bad words has nothing to do with 'unicorn' and 'dreams'
Best of luck welcoming the enemy in your house to kill you, kill your loved ones and rape them. I really hope no one in the universe takes your advice when it comes to warfare. I did get your point, its unrealistic and has to place in the real world. Its for kids that dream that at the end of the story the prince will come ridding in a unicorn.
i never said i will welcome them in my house. i will fight against the one who fight with me. but i will try to not insult. that's all. If you think i'm like a kid, then i'm sorry.
Peace -
Greetings and Peace, all group
Salam all, I've been doubtful about warmonger. My question are
1.If there is a group of people wanna make genocide Muslims, what will you do?
Actively resist if they actually take actions toward their desires. Wanting to and desiring are not the same as having the means to--or actually being dangerous.
2.If you were Syrian people, what would you do?
Take a side or leave. I would never choose to be the "innocent bystander."
3.What will you do if Sunni and Shiah wanna kill you because of Quran alone?
If they want to kill that is one thing. If any takes actions to kill/harm then I will actively resist.
4.Do you agree with Syrian president?
No.
5.Do all Sunni scholars go to hell according to Quran?
No.
6.What is jihad according to Quran alone?
Struggle towards good, but not necessarily pertaining to violence.
May God shows us the right path
ALLAH knows best.
peace
~Abdul-Hadi
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Salam all, I've been doubtful about warmonger. My question are
1.If there is a group of people wanna make genocide Muslims, what will you do?
2.If you were Syrian people, what would you do?
3.What will you do if Sunni and Shiah wanna kill you because of Quran alone?
4.Do you agree with Syrian president?
5.Do all Sunni scholars go to hell according to Quran?
6.What is jihad according to Quran alone?
May God shows us the right path
First of all Jihad is a general term used in the Quran for any form of stuggle for the faith. It can include fighting but not necessarily so. As far as fighting is concerned what student of Allah said is correct. We are to fight only for defensive purpose when we are being attacked. We can also fight when a believing party wrongfully attacks another believing party until the wrongfull party stops or is made to stop.
The Quran does not recognize wars of conquest or spreading religion etc.
As far as Syria's president he strikes me as just another dictator who knows most Syrians do not want his rule and want freedom but does not want to leave power even and is willing to kill. Just like Qaddafi and Husni Mubarak and Ali Saleh of Yemen. He will only leave by force.
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Shalom aleikhem mirjamnur,
I apologize if I misunderstood the point you tried to make. Let us try again
You didn't get my point?
I'll explain it to youHow to Muslims behave towards the Kafirs? Check out
3115 (be fair) ,6108 (do not insult),4133 (the best speech)I was not writing about my behavior towards kafirs. I was writing about my response to anyone who declared war and is attacking me. So this example does not apply.
Question 2 How Muslims respond appropriately and with dignity on hostility and insults?
2563 (walking modestly on earth).,4134-36 (turn the bad with the better).3135 (be humble).4140 (don't sit with anybody ridicule Allah)Once again, you wrongly assumed that the situation allows it. We are talking about a WAR and when the enemy already ATTACKED. Please kindly re-read what I wrote, I clearly mentioned that to help provide context.
Question 3 How to behave as Muslims in anger and rage?
4236-43 (Evil can give back with evil, those who forgive has reward from God),3134 (suppress the anger and pardon)I strongly believe you are missing my context. Once again, the context is TOTAL WARFARE. Not an everyday dispute or a general remark from a traditionalist which is rude. Under no thought process will my brain cells ever calculate out that forgiving them when their bombers are flying towards my hometown is a good thing to do. If anything, I will become a support of his cause by doing that. Someone allowing injustice to go on like that is guilty as the oppressor too.
Question 5 Which behavior have submitted to God?
486 (right greeting)494 (investigate carefully)
We should as a devotee always nice words on the best way to use, be humble and meek, etc.
1424-25 Do you not see how God cites the parable of the good word? He compares the good word with a good tree whose roots are firmly in the ground and whose branches extend high into the sky. It bears fruit with God's permission for some time. God cites the parables for men, that they are concerned.3119 Jump modest step, and lower your voice! The ugliest voice is the donkey. "
16125 a charge to the path of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching, and debating with them on the best way! Your Lord is He Who knows best who turns away from His Path and who finds the right line.
3159 And (just) because of the grace of God you were gentle towards them. But you were harsh, have been hard-hearted, they would certainly leave you. Thus they forgive, ask forgiveness for them and consult them about the whole affair. If you take a decision, put your trust in God, for God loves those who rely on Him.
1322 the wait out of desire for the Face of their Lord, doing the contact prayers, donations of gifts of God publicly and secretly, and repel evil with good. The beautiful home you deserve in the afterlife.
Use of swearing and "bad words" to be arrogant to exploit nature without restraint, about other people not to mock represent a righteous behavior
1426 A bad word is like a bad tree which is uprooted from the earth and has no grip on the ground.3118 do not treat people with arrogance and not wander on the earth carelessly. God loves not any arrogant boaster.
4911 O ye who believe! No man is allowed to make fun of another, perhaps this is better than him. No woman should scoff at another, perhaps this is better than them. Do not slander one another! Another says no bad words and bad names! There is nothing worse than to commit this crime, after accepting faith. Those who do not desist it is remorseful, truly the wrongdoers.
Devotee should NOT be suspicious and racist spy, and not slander
496 O ye who believe, if a wicked person brings you any news, it turns out an investigation, that ye harm people unwittingly, and injustice have to repent afterwards, what you did.4912-13 O ye who believe! Avoids speculation, because it can be sinful! No spying on each other does not slander with slander! For example, someone wants to eat the flesh of his dead brother? As you hated it, hated the gossip! Fear God! God is full of mercy and accepts the repentance. O mankind, We created you from male and female and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know one another. Truly, God is the most honored of you, which is the most righteous. Verily, God is Knowing, Aware.
Totally irrelevant. Stating once again, that I provided the context, and that was full on war.
Question 4 What are the ideals of the Muslims? What are the main principles of righteousness?
I don't see words like motherfcker and fck and other insults are characteristic for a believer. You think one second, what a motherf*cker is? Bad words has nothing to do with 'unicorn' and 'dreams'
i never said i will welcome them in my house. i will fight against the one who fight with me. but i will try to not insult. that's all. If you think i'm like a kid, then i'm sorry.
PeaceI want to make it very clear that I quoted the quote from the movie to express my anger in the context that I along with fellow Qur'an alone followers are facing WAR. The hurtful words from the innocent, in a context where one party is about to murder the innocent unjustly is the last thing that matters, if at all. Anyways, I do get your point, and keeping our calm is good. But there are times, when keeping calm serves the situation unjustly. We may differ in opinion regarding the boundaries, but I do respect your view.
Now , coming back to defend my original statement. Instead of quoting verses about everyday interactions which I was not referring to in the first place, present me evidence from the Qur'an in the context of WARFARE. Let us see how my warfare system is so bad and "total forgiveness and praying for them" when the enemies are at the gates waiting to slay you are justified.
Peace
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Vanquish the enemy!
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Vanquish the enemy!
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Vanquish the enemy!
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He is the enemy, vanquish him!
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They are the enemy, vanquish them!
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Vanquishing the enemy, VANQUISH THEM!
Tonight we dine in hell!
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So let's assume a situation from a real life example..
You're an ahmadi.. a sunni mob lead by their imams is marching to your village..
They're carrying torches.. and some carries rudimentary weapons such as swords, (fake and assembled) AK47, Clubs etc..
They're shouting "Allahu Akbar!!", "Death to Ahmadis!!".. "Burn their houses!!" "Burn the kuffars!!"What would you do?
Salam / Peace
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So let's assume a situation from a real life example..
You're an ahmadi.. a sunni mob lead by their imams is marching to your village..
They're carrying torches.. and some carries rudimentary weapons such as swords, (fake and assembled) AK47, Clubs etc..
They're shouting "Allahu Akbar!!", "Death to Ahmadis!!".. "Burn their houses!!" "Burn the kuffars!!"What would you do?
Salam / Peace
Salam
Quran (533) Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment.
Quran (474) So when you meet those who disbelieve , strike necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either favor afterwards or ransom until the war lays down its burdens. That . And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them , but to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah - never will He waste their deeds.
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Salam Student of Allah and all
I know that the above situation constitutes an exceptional situation. I also see that there are not your words.
I can not take a verse that refers LITERAL OF DEFENCE IN CASE OF WAR. This is also clear. yeah
I was just shocked by the language. Maybe I'm really on the moon, but I really don't like such expressions, even in anger.
In the event of war, believe me, I would also most probably by a follower of temperament when i must see people to slaughter innocent children, etc. (just when i see my reaction if anybody hits my children i lost also the control ..) >
The ideal is far removed from reality ... I fear.
Nevertheless, I would like to replace these words and cry against them prefer small-minded racists and Childrenmurders and small brain yes indivuduals, brutal war machines and robots, sad creatures ...
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Jihad only leads to death of more Muslims. Jihadists never attack the West or Israel, instead they kill Muslims. Jihadists live in the West, but they never touch the West instead they travel to the Middle-East to do jihad. Jihadists never touch Israel, instead they go to Syria for jihad while killing more Sunnis and Alawites. Jihadists are useless cannonfodder who have killed more Muslims than anyone ever could have.
Muslims are bigger victims than atheists and jews to Islamists/jihad. Muslims are more likely to be punished than atheists or jews in Iran.
Jihad probaly means to struggle, but today the term has been hjiacked by Islamists.
You're an ahmadi.. a sunni mob lead by their imams is marching to your village..
They're carrying torches.. and some carries rudimentary weapons such as swords, (fake and assembled) AK47, Clubs etc..
They're shouting "Allahu Akbar!!", "Death to Ahmadis!!".. "Burn their houses!!" "Burn the kuffars!!"What would you do?
You arrest them all and deport them back to their countries. It's sad that the Middle-East has such a strong religious influence because all jihadists flock to the Middle-East to either do jihad or go on hajj and it's all coming from Europe. Europe is such a pathetic region.
But these mobs can be controlled by religious sheikhs. The Saudi regime enjoys using religion as a tool, but it's using it on the wrong people. It's using it to kill more Muslims. The jihadists should be sent to Israel as cannonfodder and to the West instead. That's where THEY belong.
These riots happens when some Western idiots decides to draw Muhammed to provoke Muslims. It makes me disturbed that the Arab world somehow risk their own citizens just to protect these Western savages. Afterall, the Islamists who riot on the streets are only after the Westerner ambassadors whom they consider responsible for drawing Muhammed. If I was the leader of the Arab world, I'd let the Islamists attack the Westerner ambassador so long they don't hurt any of my citizens, then I'd arrest them to prevent any of my citizens from getting hurt by these savages. But even better, just deport all Islamists to the West. Give them European citizenship and weapons, and let them go there and cause trouble.
Anyway personally I have never met any Sunni here who want to attack anybody due to their religious view. Most Sunnis I know here are secular and they eat pork, while drinking alcohol, and some of them pray too. Specialy the Balkan Muslims and the Lebanese, they're quite secular. A lot of Arabs I know here have left Islam but this is not because they find that Islam is oppressive or wrong or anything like that but rather because they just want to live on their life without caring about religion in general. This is the effect of a education rich country.
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The jihadists should be sent to Israel as cannonfodder and to the West instead. That's where THEY belong.
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But even better, just deport all Islamists to the West. Give them European citizenship and weapons, and let them go there and cause trouble.THank you very much. I (and I think many others in this forum) live in "the West". So you will stand applauding if we are killed by islamists?
Seems that your world view is as simplistic as that of the very islamists.
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Why should I care? It's not my fault that the West plays with fire. Who seeds wind, shall harvest storm. (French proverb)
The UK, Denmark, Bulgaria are all sending jihadists to my country to wipe out its natives. Europe destroyed my country, and tried to establish a trade embargo with Al-Qaida/Islamists - This is another version of cold-war between three physcopaths (i.e America, Europe and Russia). I recently saw pictures of decapitated Syrian Christians who were beheaded by British terrorists. I recently saw destroyed Syrian cultural sites(Destroyed by rebels who considered it haram) - I think I have the right to be outraged on Europe. I recently saw a picture of some European twat in ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) posting a picture of him on twitter with some Syrian/Iraqi hostages having their hands tied, and he wrote that he'd execute them in the name of God. Last time I visited Syria was a long time ago, and today I can't visit my country anymore knowing that it would not be the same. Even in Maloula(The only village were Aramaic still lives), a lot of Christian heritage have been destroyed.
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http//i.imgur.com/8cBIBDB.jpgBritish jihadists leaves to fight in Syria and behead people. What does Britain do? Answer Rather than to arrest them, it revokes their citizenship and gives them a new one after some years. It's more like a "Good job" from them. Europe gives weapons to Islamists in the ME, while they push off refugees who are escaping a war-thorn country.
Europe benefits from dictators in the Middle-East. I'd like to see my country having democracy, but not this fake democracy that Europe is making propaganda on(i.e Shariah). Europe is responsible for the bloodshed in the Middle-East through its gulf-allies. I'd like the Arab world to stop selling oil to these European idiotic leaders, I'd love to see Europe go down for what it did to our countries.
So you will stand applauding if we are killed by islamists?
Only to those Westerners who were applauding when Islamists were killing my citizens.
Seems that your world view is as simplistic as that of the very islamists.
Why? I oppose Islamists and all types of religious stupidity, be that Zionists or Islamists but I also oppose European imperalism(And no I'm not a leftist). I believe in democracy based on a unitary parliamentary constitutional monarchy, but I also believe that as long as Europe exists, such democracy might be illusionary.
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The UK, Denmark, Bulgaria are all sending jihadists to my country to wipe out its natives.
British jihadists leaves to fight in Syria and behead people.
European jihadist? Wow!? ) Who are they actually?
So, there are also Europeans who believe that such thing is jihad?
I wonder how they get the 'jihad' ideas until they truly believe it.
Peace.
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Most of them are Eastern-Europeans(i.e Checens) like these cowardly Checens who execute Syrian children in this video (+1 https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeAk8rf47l8
A lot of European morons believe in jihad, and why and how is something I'll never understand. A lot of these idiots were converted by local extremists Imams and then later on sent as cannonfodder. Europe has a lot of extremism, it's logical that many Europeans believe in either jihad or right-wing politics. It's sad that such region has such a high education, yet too many are too stupid and idiotic that don't deserve it. My point is that Europe does not deserve this in the same way Saudi-Arabia doesn't deserve its oil because all they use their oil-money for is to fund terrorism in the ME or mosques in Europe. It's sad that many of these morons have changed their names into Arabic names, and infected the entire Middle-East. This is why I wrote in my previous post that the jihadists need to be deported back to Europe, that's where they belong. They have nothing to do with the Middle-East, they're a bunch of European converts who changed their names into Arabic since they want to feel "closer" to Islam. They belong in Europe. Let those pathetic morons cause trouble in their OWN countries instead.
Europe enjoys when jihadists leave their countries. Recently, Europe has been worried that these jihadists would return and that's why they're acting now, but they never say anything when jihadists leave their garbage countries.
Turkey (A NATO country, and soon to become a part of the EU) is the country that's sending foreign jihadists into Syria through its borders and is the country that hjiacked the Syrian revolution. This is an act of war and illegal war crime. What does the rest of the Arab countries do? They stand and watch while even promoting these kind of things. Such stupidity will stop when true nationalism takes over the Arab world which begin valuing the lives of its citizens while dealing with Europe.
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Most of them are Eastern-Europeans(i.e Checens) like these cowardly Checens who execute Syrian children in this video (+1 https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeAk8rf47l8
Ugh, those gunmen are coward terrorists!! >(
Europe enjoys when jihadists leave their countries. Recently, Europe has been worried that these jihadists would return and that's why they're acting now, but they never say anything when jihadists leave their garbage countries.
Oh, now I can understand it. So, Europe wants to clean their own countries from those brainwashed terrorists.
Jihadists is unappropriate term for them...
What does the rest of the Arab countries do? They stand and watch while even promoting these kind of things. Such stupidity will stop when true nationalism takes over the Arab world which begin valuing the lives of its citizens while dealing with Europe.
Arab countries cannot be relied on to bring peace.