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    Mazhar
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    Peace All,

    I have seen lately in the guise of not believing hadiths people are not giving RESPECT as it should be to prohphet Mohammed SAS.
    Can we call prophet Mohammed SAS just by his name as if we are talking about any xyz person.

    Comparing prophet Mohammed SAS with others, etc.

    Can somebody please shed some light on it.

    Regards

    Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam will be approached by non-believers for Paradise
    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603769.0
    Descent from and Ascent to Praised Abode
    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603625.0

    Command of Allah the Exalted Carefully watch your words while talking about or mentioning the Elevated Messenger lest doomed.
    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603476.0

    Litmus Test Take this test to know whether you are entitled for Paradise.

    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603470.0

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      Maha
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      Peace All,

      I have seen lately in the guise of not believing hadiths people are not giving RESPECT as it should be to prohphet Mohammed SAS.

      Can we call prophet Mohammed SAS just by his name as if we are talking about any xyz person.

      Comparing prophet Mohammed SAS with others, etc.

      Can somebody please shed some light on it.

      Regards

      Lol. You think saying SAS gives respect? I never understood this SAS thing. I heard muslims saying ''Muhammed SAS used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives'' or ''Muhammed SAS used rinse his mouth and spat the water into Mahmod bin rabe'' And I just wonder, do they really respect Muhammed when they believe such things? Just because you say SAS doesnt mean that you respect him.

      And why do you only say SAS to muhammed? Why not to Jesus, David, Moses etc.? You are not allowed to distinguish between the prophets. They are all the same as per quran.

      Muhammad might have been a great man like Gandhi and other great men, but since we never knew each other, its hard for me to care much about him. Come on, I know more about Job and Jonah than I know about Muhammed.. It was all this heavy obsession with Muhammad which led to the distortion of Islam and created the possibility of inventing hadith. Therefore, I believe, we shall stop being so focused on Muhammed and instead focus more on Qurans message

      Peace

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        truthsearcher
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        Peace truthsearcher.

        When GOD says " Wusally alaikum wa malaikatahu" , it means GOD and the Angels support/help you.

        What else do you think it means?.

        Peace.

        I don't know what it means but here on http//corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp?q=Slw#%28335610%29 I can't find word support/help. Thats why i asked you in which dictionary

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          ignorant_quotient
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          Lol. You think saying SAS gives respect? I never understood this SAS thing. I heard muslims saying ''Muhammed SAS used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives'' or ''Muhammed SAS used rinse his mouth and spat the water into Mahmod bin rabe'' And I just wonder, do they really respect Muhammed when they believe such things? Just because you say SAS doesnt mean that you respect him.

          And why do you only say SAS to muhammed? Why not to Jesus, David, Moses etc.? You are not allowed to distinguish between the prophets. They are all the same as per quran.

          I Agree

          Muhammad might have been a great man like Gandhi and other great men, but since we never knew each other, its hard for me to care much about him. Come on, I know more about Job and Jonah than I know about Muhammed.. It was all this heavy obsession with Muhammad which led to the distortion of Islam and created the possibility of inventing hadith. Therefore, I believe, we shall stop being so focused on Muhammed and instead focus more on Qurans message

          The other extreme.

          1. People idolizing prophet Mohammed

          2. You here comparing prophet Mohammed with Gandhi ( and idolater ) is another extreme.

          Peace

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            Maha
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            Peace brother . Why is that an extreme ? There have been many great men in history and Muhammad was just one of them .

            Peace

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              ignorant_quotient
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              Peace brother . Why is that an extreme ? There have been many great men in history and Muhammad was just one of them .

              Peace to you brother,

              I cannot agree with you on this, when you are comparing a prophet with some other so called great people.

              Peace

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                Maha
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                ignorant.quotient why not?

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                  mubashir55
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                  Dear All, To add to the discussion, sharing what I read recently

                  What is DAROOD or SALAWAAT?

                  The word DAROOD is not Arabic. The word SALAWAAT is Arabic. It is usually
                  believed that if we read SALAWAAT on Muhammad for a certain number of
                  times, our sins will be forgiven, so on and so forth.

                  If we see Quran, we come to know that it is not only human beings who are to do
                  SALAWAAT but Allah, His angels as well as the prophet also do
                  SALAWAAT on human beings.

                  Please see the following

                  Allah?s SALAWAAT on human beings

                  2156 When a calamity befalls them, they do not waver. Rather, they say, "We
                  are for Allah, dedicated to His Cause and every step of ours will advance in
                  the Direction shown by Him." (9159).

                  2157 It is they on whom is SALAWAAT from their Lord and blesses with His Grace. And it is they, they who are guided to
                  the most desirable destination.

                  The above verse clearly indicates that SALAWAAT can also be on human beings
                  from Allah. Now does this mean that Allah reads for a certain time SALAWAAT on
                  people? It does not make sense.

                  Rasool?s SALAWAAT for human beings

                  9103 Accept their contribution for the community. Purify their thoughts with
                  proper education and training so that their "Self" may grow. SALLI ALAIHIM
                  Your SALAWAAT is a great source of peace in their hearts. Allah is
                  Hearer, Knower.

                  In the above verse Allah has ordered Muhammad to do SALAWAAT on human
                  beings. Does this mean that Muhammad reads SALAWAAT on people for a
                  certain number of times? It does not make sense.

                  Allah?s and His Angels? SALAWAAT on human beings

                  3343 He it is Who bestows His blessings upon you, and supports you , and His angels, that He may bring you forth from darkness into the
                  Light. And Merciful is He, indeed, to those who attain belief.

                  In the above verse Allah and His angles do SALAWAAT on momineen. Does this mean
                  that Allah and His angels reads SALAWAAT on people for a certain number of
                  times? It does not make sense.

                  SALAWAT of human beings for RASOOL

                  999 And among the Bedouins are those who believe in Allah and the Last Day and
                  consider their spending as a means towards Allah and a means of
                  SALAWAAT-E-RASOOL . This will raise their ranks
                  with Allah. Allah will embrace them with His Mercy. Verily, Allah is Forgiving,
                  Gracious.

                  The above verse explains the concept of SALAWAAT by describing ?Spending? as a
                  means of ?support?.

                  Now see the most commonly referred verse according to which momineen should do
                  SALAWAAT on Muhammad

                  3356 Verily, Allah and His angels bless the Messenger and support his Mission
                  . O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! Support his
                  Mission in total submission.

                  Consider all the above verses and decide yourself.

                  Is SALAWAAT just from Momineen for Muhammad ?

                  The answer is no.

                  The SALAWAAT is also from Allah to human beings.

                  The SALAWAAT is also from Muhammad for human beings.

                  So when Allah does SALAWAAT on human beings, Does He read something for a
                  certain number of times on human beings?

                  SALAWAAT is not reading something for a certain number of times but practically
                  doing something i.e. supporting Muhammad?s mission by whatever means
                  we can.

                  SALAWAAT is not something that should be a bone of contention whether there
                  should be a SALAWAAT before azan or not. It has an utterly different meanings
                  and objectives.

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                    ignorant_quotient
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                    ignorant.quotient why not?

                    Peace,

                    can you please elaborate on the greatness of your so called great people.

                    Prophet Mohammed was chosen by Allah and upon whom Quran was revealed.

                    Regards

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                      ignorant_quotient
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                      Dear All, To add to the discussion, sharing what I read recently

                      What is DAROOD or SALAWAAT?

                      The word DAROOD is not Arabic. The word SALAWAAT is Arabic. It is usually
                      believed that if we read SALAWAAT on Muhammad for a certain number of
                      times, our sins will be forgiven, so on and so forth.

                      If we see Quran, we come to know that it is not only human beings who are to do
                      SALAWAAT but Allah, His angels as well as the prophet also do
                      SALAWAAT on human beings.

                      Please see the following

                      Allah?s SALAWAAT on human beings

                      2156 When a calamity befalls them, they do not waver. Rather, they say, "We
                      are for Allah, dedicated to His Cause and every step of ours will advance in
                      the Direction shown by Him." (9159).

                      2157 It is they on whom is SALAWAAT from their Lord and blesses with His Grace. And it is they, they who are guided to
                      the most desirable destination.

                      The above verse clearly indicates that SALAWAAT can also be on human beings
                      from Allah. Now does this mean that Allah reads for a certain time SALAWAAT on
                      people? It does not make sense.

                      Rasool?s SALAWAAT for human beings

                      9103 Accept their contribution for the community. Purify their thoughts with
                      proper education and training so that their "Self" may grow. SALLI ALAIHIM
                      Your SALAWAAT is a great source of peace in their hearts. Allah is
                      Hearer, Knower.

                      In the above verse Allah has ordered Muhammad to do SALAWAAT on human
                      beings. Does this mean that Muhammad reads SALAWAAT on people for a
                      certain number of times? It does not make sense.

                      Allah?s and His Angels? SALAWAAT on human beings

                      3343 He it is Who bestows His blessings upon you, and supports you , and His angels, that He may bring you forth from darkness into the
                      Light. And Merciful is He, indeed, to those who attain belief.

                      In the above verse Allah and His angles do SALAWAAT on momineen. Does this mean
                      that Allah and His angels reads SALAWAAT on people for a certain number of
                      times? It does not make sense.

                      SALAWAT of human beings for RASOOL

                      999 And among the Bedouins are those who believe in Allah and the Last Day and
                      consider their spending as a means towards Allah and a means of
                      SALAWAAT-E-RASOOL . This will raise their ranks
                      with Allah. Allah will embrace them with His Mercy. Verily, Allah is Forgiving,
                      Gracious.

                      The above verse explains the concept of SALAWAAT by describing ?Spending? as a
                      means of ?support?.

                      Now see the most commonly referred verse according to which momineen should do
                      SALAWAAT on Muhammad

                      3356 Verily, Allah and His angels bless the Messenger and support his Mission
                      . O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! Support his
                      Mission in total submission.

                      Consider all the above verses and decide yourself.

                      Is SALAWAAT just from Momineen for Muhammad ?

                      The answer is no.

                      The SALAWAAT is also from Allah to human beings.

                      The SALAWAAT is also from Muhammad for human beings.

                      So when Allah does SALAWAAT on human beings, Does He read something for a
                      certain number of times on human beings?

                      SALAWAAT is not reading something for a certain number of times but practically
                      doing something i.e. supporting Muhammad?s mission by whatever means
                      we can.

                      SALAWAAT is not something that should be a bone of contention whether there
                      should be a SALAWAAT before azan or not. It has an utterly different meanings
                      and objectives.

                      Peace,

                      Thanks for posting this, but the topic is altogether something different.

                      Regards

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                        truthsearcher
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                        Dear All, To add to the discussion, sharing what I read recently

                        What is DAROOD or SALAWAAT?

                        The word DAROOD is not Arabic. The word SALAWAAT is Arabic. It is usually
                        believed that if we read SALAWAAT on Muhammad for a certain number of
                        times, our sins will be forgiven, so on and so forth.

                        If we see Quran, we come to know that it is not only human beings who are to do
                        SALAWAAT but Allah, His angels as well as the prophet also do
                        SALAWAAT on human beings.

                        Please see the following

                        Allah?s SALAWAAT on human beings

                        2156 When a calamity befalls them, they do not waver. Rather, they say, "We
                        are for Allah, dedicated to His Cause and every step of ours will advance in
                        the Direction shown by Him." (9159).

                        2157 It is they on whom is SALAWAAT from their Lord and blesses with His Grace. And it is they, they who are guided to
                        the most desirable destination.

                        The above verse clearly indicates that SALAWAAT can also be on human beings
                        from Allah. Now does this mean that Allah reads for a certain time SALAWAAT on
                        people? It does not make sense.

                        Rasool?s SALAWAAT for human beings

                        9103 Accept their contribution for the community. Purify their thoughts with
                        proper education and training so that their "Self" may grow. SALLI ALAIHIM
                        Your SALAWAAT is a great source of peace in their hearts. Allah is
                        Hearer, Knower.

                        In the above verse Allah has ordered Muhammad to do SALAWAAT on human
                        beings. Does this mean that Muhammad reads SALAWAAT on people for a
                        certain number of times? It does not make sense.

                        Allah?s and His Angels? SALAWAAT on human beings

                        3343 He it is Who bestows His blessings upon you, and supports you , and His angels, that He may bring you forth from darkness into the
                        Light. And Merciful is He, indeed, to those who attain belief.

                        In the above verse Allah and His angles do SALAWAAT on momineen. Does this mean
                        that Allah and His angels reads SALAWAAT on people for a certain number of
                        times? It does not make sense.

                        SALAWAT of human beings for RASOOL

                        999 And among the Bedouins are those who believe in Allah and the Last Day and
                        consider their spending as a means towards Allah and a means of
                        SALAWAAT-E-RASOOL . This will raise their ranks
                        with Allah. Allah will embrace them with His Mercy. Verily, Allah is Forgiving,
                        Gracious.

                        The above verse explains the concept of SALAWAAT by describing ?Spending? as a
                        means of ?support?.

                        Now see the most commonly referred verse according to which momineen should do
                        SALAWAAT on Muhammad

                        3356 Verily, Allah and His angels bless the Messenger and support his Mission
                        . O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! Support his
                        Mission in total submission.

                        Consider all the above verses and decide yourself.

                        Is SALAWAAT just from Momineen for Muhammad ?

                        The answer is no.

                        The SALAWAAT is also from Allah to human beings.

                        The SALAWAAT is also from Muhammad for human beings.

                        So when Allah does SALAWAAT on human beings, Does He read something for a
                        certain number of times on human beings?

                        SALAWAAT is not reading something for a certain number of times but practically
                        doing something i.e. supporting Muhammad?s mission by whatever means
                        we can.

                        SALAWAAT is not something that should be a bone of contention whether there
                        should be a SALAWAAT before azan or not. It has an utterly different meanings
                        and objectives.

                        Thanks for answer

                        So is there any connection between arabic word for prayer and arabic word for help/sipport (salawaat) ? Im talking about arabic grammar

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