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    DaresBears
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    Only if you say exactly the same when talking about every other prophet.

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      good_logic
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      Peace All.

      First SAS has no meaning now. It was required when the prophet was alive. "SALLU ALEIH" means support/ help him.

      Now he is dead SAS does not make sense.

      Second GOD requires the believer to believe in all the prophets/messengers of god. We do not make any distinction between any of them.
      We hear and We obey. We respect all of them, but follow GOD Alone.

      Peace.

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        truthsearcher
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        Peace All.

        First SAS has no meaning now. It was required when the prophet was alive. "SALLU ALEIH" means support/ help him.

        Peace.

        Where did you find that "sallu aleih" means support ? In which dictionary ?

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          To help us avoid shirk, Allah has decreed that we keep our leaders in perspective. It is Allah who is the controller and sustainer of all things. Messengers of Allah are the elite of the elite and tremendous human beings who were sent by Allah to lead lead us out of the darkness and into the light. Therefore we should be thankful to Allah for sending all of them but make no distinction
          between any of them like PHUB or AS.
          O0

          Peace

          Say, "We believe in GOD, and in what was sent down to us, and in what was sent down to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Patriarchs; and in what was given to Moses and Jesus, and all the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction among any of them. To Him alone we are submitters."
          The messenger has believed in what was sent down to him from his Lord, and so did the believers. They believe in GOD, His angels, His scripture, and His messengers "We make no distinction among any of His messengers." They say, "We hear, and we obey.* Forgive us, our Lord. To You is the ultimate destiny."
          Say, "We believe in GOD, and in what was sent down to us, and in what was sent down to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and in what was given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction among any of them. To Him alone we are submitters."
          As for those who believe in GOD and His messengers, and make no distinction among them, He will grant them their recompense. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful

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            good_logic
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            Peace truthsearcher.

            When GOD says " Wusally alaikum wa malaikatahu" , it means GOD and the Angels support/help you.

            What else do you think it means?.

            Peace.

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              Mazhar
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              Peace All,

              I have seen lately in the guise of not believing hadiths people are not giving RESPECT as it should be to prohphet Mohammed SAS.
              Can we call prophet Mohammed SAS just by his name as if we are talking about any xyz person.

              Comparing prophet Mohammed SAS with others, etc.

              Can somebody please shed some light on it.

              Regards

              Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam will be approached by non-believers for Paradise
              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603769.0
              Descent from and Ascent to Praised Abode
              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603625.0

              Command of Allah the Exalted Carefully watch your words while talking about or mentioning the Elevated Messenger lest doomed.
              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603476.0

              Litmus Test Take this test to know whether you are entitled for Paradise.

              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603470.0

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                Maha
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                Peace All,

                I have seen lately in the guise of not believing hadiths people are not giving RESPECT as it should be to prohphet Mohammed SAS.

                Can we call prophet Mohammed SAS just by his name as if we are talking about any xyz person.

                Comparing prophet Mohammed SAS with others, etc.

                Can somebody please shed some light on it.

                Regards

                Lol. You think saying SAS gives respect? I never understood this SAS thing. I heard muslims saying ''Muhammed SAS used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives'' or ''Muhammed SAS used rinse his mouth and spat the water into Mahmod bin rabe'' And I just wonder, do they really respect Muhammed when they believe such things? Just because you say SAS doesnt mean that you respect him.

                And why do you only say SAS to muhammed? Why not to Jesus, David, Moses etc.? You are not allowed to distinguish between the prophets. They are all the same as per quran.

                Muhammad might have been a great man like Gandhi and other great men, but since we never knew each other, its hard for me to care much about him. Come on, I know more about Job and Jonah than I know about Muhammed.. It was all this heavy obsession with Muhammad which led to the distortion of Islam and created the possibility of inventing hadith. Therefore, I believe, we shall stop being so focused on Muhammed and instead focus more on Qurans message

                Peace

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                  truthsearcher
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                  Peace truthsearcher.

                  When GOD says " Wusally alaikum wa malaikatahu" , it means GOD and the Angels support/help you.

                  What else do you think it means?.

                  Peace.

                  I don't know what it means but here on http//corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp?q=Slw#%28335610%29 I can't find word support/help. Thats why i asked you in which dictionary

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                    ignorant_quotient
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                    Lol. You think saying SAS gives respect? I never understood this SAS thing. I heard muslims saying ''Muhammed SAS used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives'' or ''Muhammed SAS used rinse his mouth and spat the water into Mahmod bin rabe'' And I just wonder, do they really respect Muhammed when they believe such things? Just because you say SAS doesnt mean that you respect him.

                    And why do you only say SAS to muhammed? Why not to Jesus, David, Moses etc.? You are not allowed to distinguish between the prophets. They are all the same as per quran.

                    I Agree

                    Muhammad might have been a great man like Gandhi and other great men, but since we never knew each other, its hard for me to care much about him. Come on, I know more about Job and Jonah than I know about Muhammed.. It was all this heavy obsession with Muhammad which led to the distortion of Islam and created the possibility of inventing hadith. Therefore, I believe, we shall stop being so focused on Muhammed and instead focus more on Qurans message

                    The other extreme.

                    1. People idolizing prophet Mohammed

                    2. You here comparing prophet Mohammed with Gandhi ( and idolater ) is another extreme.

                    Peace

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                      Maha
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                      Peace brother . Why is that an extreme ? There have been many great men in history and Muhammad was just one of them .

                      Peace

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                        ignorant_quotient
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                        Peace brother . Why is that an extreme ? There have been many great men in history and Muhammad was just one of them .

                        Peace to you brother,

                        I cannot agree with you on this, when you are comparing a prophet with some other so called great people.

                        Peace

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                          Maha
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                          ignorant.quotient why not?

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                            mubashir55
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                            Dear All, To add to the discussion, sharing what I read recently

                            What is DAROOD or SALAWAAT?

                            The word DAROOD is not Arabic. The word SALAWAAT is Arabic. It is usually
                            believed that if we read SALAWAAT on Muhammad for a certain number of
                            times, our sins will be forgiven, so on and so forth.

                            If we see Quran, we come to know that it is not only human beings who are to do
                            SALAWAAT but Allah, His angels as well as the prophet also do
                            SALAWAAT on human beings.

                            Please see the following

                            Allah?s SALAWAAT on human beings

                            2156 When a calamity befalls them, they do not waver. Rather, they say, "We
                            are for Allah, dedicated to His Cause and every step of ours will advance in
                            the Direction shown by Him." (9159).

                            2157 It is they on whom is SALAWAAT from their Lord and blesses with His Grace. And it is they, they who are guided to
                            the most desirable destination.

                            The above verse clearly indicates that SALAWAAT can also be on human beings
                            from Allah. Now does this mean that Allah reads for a certain time SALAWAAT on
                            people? It does not make sense.

                            Rasool?s SALAWAAT for human beings

                            9103 Accept their contribution for the community. Purify their thoughts with
                            proper education and training so that their "Self" may grow. SALLI ALAIHIM
                            Your SALAWAAT is a great source of peace in their hearts. Allah is
                            Hearer, Knower.

                            In the above verse Allah has ordered Muhammad to do SALAWAAT on human
                            beings. Does this mean that Muhammad reads SALAWAAT on people for a
                            certain number of times? It does not make sense.

                            Allah?s and His Angels? SALAWAAT on human beings

                            3343 He it is Who bestows His blessings upon you, and supports you , and His angels, that He may bring you forth from darkness into the
                            Light. And Merciful is He, indeed, to those who attain belief.

                            In the above verse Allah and His angles do SALAWAAT on momineen. Does this mean
                            that Allah and His angels reads SALAWAAT on people for a certain number of
                            times? It does not make sense.

                            SALAWAT of human beings for RASOOL

                            999 And among the Bedouins are those who believe in Allah and the Last Day and
                            consider their spending as a means towards Allah and a means of
                            SALAWAAT-E-RASOOL . This will raise their ranks
                            with Allah. Allah will embrace them with His Mercy. Verily, Allah is Forgiving,
                            Gracious.

                            The above verse explains the concept of SALAWAAT by describing ?Spending? as a
                            means of ?support?.

                            Now see the most commonly referred verse according to which momineen should do
                            SALAWAAT on Muhammad

                            3356 Verily, Allah and His angels bless the Messenger and support his Mission
                            . O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! Support his
                            Mission in total submission.

                            Consider all the above verses and decide yourself.

                            Is SALAWAAT just from Momineen for Muhammad ?

                            The answer is no.

                            The SALAWAAT is also from Allah to human beings.

                            The SALAWAAT is also from Muhammad for human beings.

                            So when Allah does SALAWAAT on human beings, Does He read something for a
                            certain number of times on human beings?

                            SALAWAAT is not reading something for a certain number of times but practically
                            doing something i.e. supporting Muhammad?s mission by whatever means
                            we can.

                            SALAWAAT is not something that should be a bone of contention whether there
                            should be a SALAWAAT before azan or not. It has an utterly different meanings
                            and objectives.

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                              ignorant_quotient
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                              ignorant.quotient why not?

                              Peace,

                              can you please elaborate on the greatness of your so called great people.

                              Prophet Mohammed was chosen by Allah and upon whom Quran was revealed.

                              Regards

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                                ignorant_quotient
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                                Dear All, To add to the discussion, sharing what I read recently

                                What is DAROOD or SALAWAAT?

                                The word DAROOD is not Arabic. The word SALAWAAT is Arabic. It is usually
                                believed that if we read SALAWAAT on Muhammad for a certain number of
                                times, our sins will be forgiven, so on and so forth.

                                If we see Quran, we come to know that it is not only human beings who are to do
                                SALAWAAT but Allah, His angels as well as the prophet also do
                                SALAWAAT on human beings.

                                Please see the following

                                Allah?s SALAWAAT on human beings

                                2156 When a calamity befalls them, they do not waver. Rather, they say, "We
                                are for Allah, dedicated to His Cause and every step of ours will advance in
                                the Direction shown by Him." (9159).

                                2157 It is they on whom is SALAWAAT from their Lord and blesses with His Grace. And it is they, they who are guided to
                                the most desirable destination.

                                The above verse clearly indicates that SALAWAAT can also be on human beings
                                from Allah. Now does this mean that Allah reads for a certain time SALAWAAT on
                                people? It does not make sense.

                                Rasool?s SALAWAAT for human beings

                                9103 Accept their contribution for the community. Purify their thoughts with
                                proper education and training so that their "Self" may grow. SALLI ALAIHIM
                                Your SALAWAAT is a great source of peace in their hearts. Allah is
                                Hearer, Knower.

                                In the above verse Allah has ordered Muhammad to do SALAWAAT on human
                                beings. Does this mean that Muhammad reads SALAWAAT on people for a
                                certain number of times? It does not make sense.

                                Allah?s and His Angels? SALAWAAT on human beings

                                3343 He it is Who bestows His blessings upon you, and supports you , and His angels, that He may bring you forth from darkness into the
                                Light. And Merciful is He, indeed, to those who attain belief.

                                In the above verse Allah and His angles do SALAWAAT on momineen. Does this mean
                                that Allah and His angels reads SALAWAAT on people for a certain number of
                                times? It does not make sense.

                                SALAWAT of human beings for RASOOL

                                999 And among the Bedouins are those who believe in Allah and the Last Day and
                                consider their spending as a means towards Allah and a means of
                                SALAWAAT-E-RASOOL . This will raise their ranks
                                with Allah. Allah will embrace them with His Mercy. Verily, Allah is Forgiving,
                                Gracious.

                                The above verse explains the concept of SALAWAAT by describing ?Spending? as a
                                means of ?support?.

                                Now see the most commonly referred verse according to which momineen should do
                                SALAWAAT on Muhammad

                                3356 Verily, Allah and His angels bless the Messenger and support his Mission
                                . O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! Support his
                                Mission in total submission.

                                Consider all the above verses and decide yourself.

                                Is SALAWAAT just from Momineen for Muhammad ?

                                The answer is no.

                                The SALAWAAT is also from Allah to human beings.

                                The SALAWAAT is also from Muhammad for human beings.

                                So when Allah does SALAWAAT on human beings, Does He read something for a
                                certain number of times on human beings?

                                SALAWAAT is not reading something for a certain number of times but practically
                                doing something i.e. supporting Muhammad?s mission by whatever means
                                we can.

                                SALAWAAT is not something that should be a bone of contention whether there
                                should be a SALAWAAT before azan or not. It has an utterly different meanings
                                and objectives.

                                Peace,

                                Thanks for posting this, but the topic is altogether something different.

                                Regards

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                                  truthsearcher
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                                  Dear All, To add to the discussion, sharing what I read recently

                                  What is DAROOD or SALAWAAT?

                                  The word DAROOD is not Arabic. The word SALAWAAT is Arabic. It is usually
                                  believed that if we read SALAWAAT on Muhammad for a certain number of
                                  times, our sins will be forgiven, so on and so forth.

                                  If we see Quran, we come to know that it is not only human beings who are to do
                                  SALAWAAT but Allah, His angels as well as the prophet also do
                                  SALAWAAT on human beings.

                                  Please see the following

                                  Allah?s SALAWAAT on human beings

                                  2156 When a calamity befalls them, they do not waver. Rather, they say, "We
                                  are for Allah, dedicated to His Cause and every step of ours will advance in
                                  the Direction shown by Him." (9159).

                                  2157 It is they on whom is SALAWAAT from their Lord and blesses with His Grace. And it is they, they who are guided to
                                  the most desirable destination.

                                  The above verse clearly indicates that SALAWAAT can also be on human beings
                                  from Allah. Now does this mean that Allah reads for a certain time SALAWAAT on
                                  people? It does not make sense.

                                  Rasool?s SALAWAAT for human beings

                                  9103 Accept their contribution for the community. Purify their thoughts with
                                  proper education and training so that their "Self" may grow. SALLI ALAIHIM
                                  Your SALAWAAT is a great source of peace in their hearts. Allah is
                                  Hearer, Knower.

                                  In the above verse Allah has ordered Muhammad to do SALAWAAT on human
                                  beings. Does this mean that Muhammad reads SALAWAAT on people for a
                                  certain number of times? It does not make sense.

                                  Allah?s and His Angels? SALAWAAT on human beings

                                  3343 He it is Who bestows His blessings upon you, and supports you , and His angels, that He may bring you forth from darkness into the
                                  Light. And Merciful is He, indeed, to those who attain belief.

                                  In the above verse Allah and His angles do SALAWAAT on momineen. Does this mean
                                  that Allah and His angels reads SALAWAAT on people for a certain number of
                                  times? It does not make sense.

                                  SALAWAT of human beings for RASOOL

                                  999 And among the Bedouins are those who believe in Allah and the Last Day and
                                  consider their spending as a means towards Allah and a means of
                                  SALAWAAT-E-RASOOL . This will raise their ranks
                                  with Allah. Allah will embrace them with His Mercy. Verily, Allah is Forgiving,
                                  Gracious.

                                  The above verse explains the concept of SALAWAAT by describing ?Spending? as a
                                  means of ?support?.

                                  Now see the most commonly referred verse according to which momineen should do
                                  SALAWAAT on Muhammad

                                  3356 Verily, Allah and His angels bless the Messenger and support his Mission
                                  . O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! Support his
                                  Mission in total submission.

                                  Consider all the above verses and decide yourself.

                                  Is SALAWAAT just from Momineen for Muhammad ?

                                  The answer is no.

                                  The SALAWAAT is also from Allah to human beings.

                                  The SALAWAAT is also from Muhammad for human beings.

                                  So when Allah does SALAWAAT on human beings, Does He read something for a
                                  certain number of times on human beings?

                                  SALAWAAT is not reading something for a certain number of times but practically
                                  doing something i.e. supporting Muhammad?s mission by whatever means
                                  we can.

                                  SALAWAAT is not something that should be a bone of contention whether there
                                  should be a SALAWAAT before azan or not. It has an utterly different meanings
                                  and objectives.

                                  Thanks for answer

                                  So is there any connection between arabic word for prayer and arabic word for help/sipport (salawaat) ? Im talking about arabic grammar

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