Prophet Mohammed SAS
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Peace All,
I have seen lately in the guise of not believing hadiths people are not giving RESPECT as it should be to prohphet Mohammed SAS.
Can we call prophet Mohammed SAS just by his name as if we are talking about any xyz person.
Comparing prophet Mohammed SAS with others, etc.
Can somebody please shed some light on it.
Regards
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I will put it this way,
I have found in the Qur'an, repeatedly, the message that you do not make distinctions between the prophets.
Considering this, it is hypocritical for us to refer to Muhammad and then honour him with SAS, if we do not do the same for every other prophet who has lived. Even the distinction between SAS and AS is too much. So either we carry the respect in our heart when we refer to them (I.E, it's implied this person is of great status) or we honour them all with the exact same term. Anything in between is hypocrisy, imo.
Peace
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Salam
I recognise your concern when you say that when the prophet is refered to, we don't show enough respect. Let me assure you myself and likely others definitely have respect for the prophet. Some may show by writing SAS or PBUH which is fine and some may find it tedious to write/say which is fine too. Alot of it also comes down to culture of a region, in my community it is considered badmanners to call those older than you by there first name instead its custom to say brother, sister, uncle, aunt etc.
Think of it this way, is it more important to respect him in our hearts or with our mouths by just paying lip service. No sincere muslim who follows the quran would ever bad mouth or have ill intentions in thier hearts regarding the prophet. If some feel the need to show that they respect the prophet then by all means that is fine but do not assume because one neglects saying PBUH or SAS that they do not wish him peace and blessings.
Obviously avid hadith followers will say that paying lip service is compulsory. But the Quran however makes no explicit mention of this being compulsory however it does say ask Allah to send blessing upon him which can be done in numerous ways. for example i do this during dua also asking for blessings on all the prophets.
When comparing the prophet to others, Do you mean comparing to prophet to other prophets. then i am sure you are aware that the quran clearly states not to make distinctions between them. Quran 2136
Peace peace
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Only if you say exactly the same when talking about every other prophet.
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Peace All.
First SAS has no meaning now. It was required when the prophet was alive. "SALLU ALEIH" means support/ help him.
Now he is dead SAS does not make sense.
Second GOD requires the believer to believe in all the prophets/messengers of god. We do not make any distinction between any of them.
We hear and We obey. We respect all of them, but follow GOD Alone.Peace.
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Peace All.
First SAS has no meaning now. It was required when the prophet was alive. "SALLU ALEIH" means support/ help him.
Peace.
Where did you find that "sallu aleih" means support ? In which dictionary ?
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To help us avoid shirk, Allah has decreed that we keep our leaders in perspective. It is Allah who is the controller and sustainer of all things. Messengers of Allah are the elite of the elite and tremendous human beings who were sent by Allah to lead lead us out of the darkness and into the light. Therefore we should be thankful to Allah for sending all of them but make no distinction
between any of them like PHUB or AS.
O0Peace
Say, "We believe in GOD, and in what was sent down to us, and in what was sent down to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Patriarchs; and in what was given to Moses and Jesus, and all the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction among any of them. To Him alone we are submitters."
The messenger has believed in what was sent down to him from his Lord, and so did the believers. They believe in GOD, His angels, His scripture, and His messengers "We make no distinction among any of His messengers." They say, "We hear, and we obey.* Forgive us, our Lord. To You is the ultimate destiny."
Say, "We believe in GOD, and in what was sent down to us, and in what was sent down to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and in what was given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction among any of them. To Him alone we are submitters."
As for those who believe in GOD and His messengers, and make no distinction among them, He will grant them their recompense. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful -
Peace truthsearcher.
When GOD says " Wusally alaikum wa malaikatahu" , it means GOD and the Angels support/help you.
What else do you think it means?.
Peace.
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Peace All,
I have seen lately in the guise of not believing hadiths people are not giving RESPECT as it should be to prohphet Mohammed SAS.
Can we call prophet Mohammed SAS just by his name as if we are talking about any xyz person.Comparing prophet Mohammed SAS with others, etc.
Can somebody please shed some light on it.
Regards
Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam will be approached by non-believers for Paradise
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603769.0
Descent from and Ascent to Praised Abode
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603625.0Command of Allah the Exalted Carefully watch your words while talking about or mentioning the Elevated Messenger lest doomed.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603476.0Litmus Test Take this test to know whether you are entitled for Paradise.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603470.0
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Peace All,
I have seen lately in the guise of not believing hadiths people are not giving RESPECT as it should be to prohphet Mohammed SAS.
Can we call prophet Mohammed SAS just by his name as if we are talking about any xyz person.
Comparing prophet Mohammed SAS with others, etc.
Can somebody please shed some light on it.
Regards
Lol. You think saying SAS gives respect? I never understood this SAS thing. I heard muslims saying ''Muhammed SAS used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives'' or ''Muhammed SAS used rinse his mouth and spat the water into Mahmod bin rabe'' And I just wonder, do they really respect Muhammed when they believe such things? Just because you say SAS doesnt mean that you respect him.
And why do you only say SAS to muhammed? Why not to Jesus, David, Moses etc.? You are not allowed to distinguish between the prophets. They are all the same as per quran.
Muhammad might have been a great man like Gandhi and other great men, but since we never knew each other, its hard for me to care much about him. Come on, I know more about Job and Jonah than I know about Muhammed.. It was all this heavy obsession with Muhammad which led to the distortion of Islam and created the possibility of inventing hadith. Therefore, I believe, we shall stop being so focused on Muhammed and instead focus more on Qurans message
Peace
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Peace truthsearcher.
When GOD says " Wusally alaikum wa malaikatahu" , it means GOD and the Angels support/help you.
What else do you think it means?.
Peace.
I don't know what it means but here on http//corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp?q=Slw#%28335610%29 I can't find word support/help. Thats why i asked you in which dictionary
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Lol. You think saying SAS gives respect? I never understood this SAS thing. I heard muslims saying ''Muhammed SAS used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives'' or ''Muhammed SAS used rinse his mouth and spat the water into Mahmod bin rabe'' And I just wonder, do they really respect Muhammed when they believe such things? Just because you say SAS doesnt mean that you respect him.
And why do you only say SAS to muhammed? Why not to Jesus, David, Moses etc.? You are not allowed to distinguish between the prophets. They are all the same as per quran.
I Agree
Muhammad might have been a great man like Gandhi and other great men, but since we never knew each other, its hard for me to care much about him. Come on, I know more about Job and Jonah than I know about Muhammed.. It was all this heavy obsession with Muhammad which led to the distortion of Islam and created the possibility of inventing hadith. Therefore, I believe, we shall stop being so focused on Muhammed and instead focus more on Qurans message
The other extreme.
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People idolizing prophet Mohammed
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You here comparing prophet Mohammed with Gandhi ( and idolater ) is another extreme.
Peace
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Peace brother . Why is that an extreme ? There have been many great men in history and Muhammad was just one of them .
Peace to you brother,
I cannot agree with you on this, when you are comparing a prophet with some other so called great people.
Peace
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Dear All, To add to the discussion, sharing what I read recently
What is DAROOD or SALAWAAT?
The word DAROOD is not Arabic. The word SALAWAAT is Arabic. It is usually
believed that if we read SALAWAAT on Muhammad for a certain number of
times, our sins will be forgiven, so on and so forth.If we see Quran, we come to know that it is not only human beings who are to do
SALAWAAT but Allah, His angels as well as the prophet also do
SALAWAAT on human beings.Please see the following
Allah?s SALAWAAT on human beings
2156 When a calamity befalls them, they do not waver. Rather, they say, "We
are for Allah, dedicated to His Cause and every step of ours will advance in
the Direction shown by Him." (9159).2157 It is they on whom is SALAWAAT from their Lord and blesses with His Grace. And it is they, they who are guided to
the most desirable destination.The above verse clearly indicates that SALAWAAT can also be on human beings
from Allah. Now does this mean that Allah reads for a certain time SALAWAAT on
people? It does not make sense.Rasool?s SALAWAAT for human beings
9103 Accept their contribution for the community. Purify their thoughts with
proper education and training so that their "Self" may grow. SALLI ALAIHIM
Your SALAWAAT is a great source of peace in their hearts. Allah is
Hearer, Knower.In the above verse Allah has ordered Muhammad to do SALAWAAT on human
beings. Does this mean that Muhammad reads SALAWAAT on people for a
certain number of times? It does not make sense.Allah?s and His Angels? SALAWAAT on human beings
3343 He it is Who bestows His blessings upon you, and supports you , and His angels, that He may bring you forth from darkness into the
Light. And Merciful is He, indeed, to those who attain belief.In the above verse Allah and His angles do SALAWAAT on momineen. Does this mean
that Allah and His angels reads SALAWAAT on people for a certain number of
times? It does not make sense.SALAWAT of human beings for RASOOL
999 And among the Bedouins are those who believe in Allah and the Last Day and
consider their spending as a means towards Allah and a means of
SALAWAAT-E-RASOOL . This will raise their ranks
with Allah. Allah will embrace them with His Mercy. Verily, Allah is Forgiving,
Gracious.The above verse explains the concept of SALAWAAT by describing ?Spending? as a
means of ?support?.Now see the most commonly referred verse according to which momineen should do
SALAWAAT on Muhammad3356 Verily, Allah and His angels bless the Messenger and support his Mission
. O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! Support his
Mission in total submission.Consider all the above verses and decide yourself.
Is SALAWAAT just from Momineen for Muhammad ?
The answer is no.
The SALAWAAT is also from Allah to human beings.
The SALAWAAT is also from Muhammad for human beings.
So when Allah does SALAWAAT on human beings, Does He read something for a
certain number of times on human beings?SALAWAAT is not reading something for a certain number of times but practically
doing something i.e. supporting Muhammad?s mission by whatever means
we can.SALAWAAT is not something that should be a bone of contention whether there
should be a SALAWAAT before azan or not. It has an utterly different meanings
and objectives. -
ignorant.quotient why not?
Peace,
can you please elaborate on the greatness of your so called great people.
Prophet Mohammed was chosen by Allah and upon whom Quran was revealed.
Regards
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Dear All, To add to the discussion, sharing what I read recently
What is DAROOD or SALAWAAT?
The word DAROOD is not Arabic. The word SALAWAAT is Arabic. It is usually
believed that if we read SALAWAAT on Muhammad for a certain number of
times, our sins will be forgiven, so on and so forth.If we see Quran, we come to know that it is not only human beings who are to do
SALAWAAT but Allah, His angels as well as the prophet also do
SALAWAAT on human beings.Please see the following
Allah?s SALAWAAT on human beings
2156 When a calamity befalls them, they do not waver. Rather, they say, "We
are for Allah, dedicated to His Cause and every step of ours will advance in
the Direction shown by Him." (9159).2157 It is they on whom is SALAWAAT from their Lord and blesses with His Grace. And it is they, they who are guided to
the most desirable destination.The above verse clearly indicates that SALAWAAT can also be on human beings
from Allah. Now does this mean that Allah reads for a certain time SALAWAAT on
people? It does not make sense.Rasool?s SALAWAAT for human beings
9103 Accept their contribution for the community. Purify their thoughts with
proper education and training so that their "Self" may grow. SALLI ALAIHIM
Your SALAWAAT is a great source of peace in their hearts. Allah is
Hearer, Knower.In the above verse Allah has ordered Muhammad to do SALAWAAT on human
beings. Does this mean that Muhammad reads SALAWAAT on people for a
certain number of times? It does not make sense.Allah?s and His Angels? SALAWAAT on human beings
3343 He it is Who bestows His blessings upon you, and supports you , and His angels, that He may bring you forth from darkness into the
Light. And Merciful is He, indeed, to those who attain belief.In the above verse Allah and His angles do SALAWAAT on momineen. Does this mean
that Allah and His angels reads SALAWAAT on people for a certain number of
times? It does not make sense.SALAWAT of human beings for RASOOL
999 And among the Bedouins are those who believe in Allah and the Last Day and
consider their spending as a means towards Allah and a means of
SALAWAAT-E-RASOOL . This will raise their ranks
with Allah. Allah will embrace them with His Mercy. Verily, Allah is Forgiving,
Gracious.The above verse explains the concept of SALAWAAT by describing ?Spending? as a
means of ?support?.Now see the most commonly referred verse according to which momineen should do
SALAWAAT on Muhammad3356 Verily, Allah and His angels bless the Messenger and support his Mission
. O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! Support his
Mission in total submission.Consider all the above verses and decide yourself.
Is SALAWAAT just from Momineen for Muhammad ?
The answer is no.
The SALAWAAT is also from Allah to human beings.
The SALAWAAT is also from Muhammad for human beings.
So when Allah does SALAWAAT on human beings, Does He read something for a
certain number of times on human beings?SALAWAAT is not reading something for a certain number of times but practically
doing something i.e. supporting Muhammad?s mission by whatever means
we can.SALAWAAT is not something that should be a bone of contention whether there
should be a SALAWAAT before azan or not. It has an utterly different meanings
and objectives.Peace,
Thanks for posting this, but the topic is altogether something different.
Regards
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Dear All, To add to the discussion, sharing what I read recently
What is DAROOD or SALAWAAT?
The word DAROOD is not Arabic. The word SALAWAAT is Arabic. It is usually
believed that if we read SALAWAAT on Muhammad for a certain number of
times, our sins will be forgiven, so on and so forth.If we see Quran, we come to know that it is not only human beings who are to do
SALAWAAT but Allah, His angels as well as the prophet also do
SALAWAAT on human beings.Please see the following
Allah?s SALAWAAT on human beings
2156 When a calamity befalls them, they do not waver. Rather, they say, "We
are for Allah, dedicated to His Cause and every step of ours will advance in
the Direction shown by Him." (9159).2157 It is they on whom is SALAWAAT from their Lord and blesses with His Grace. And it is they, they who are guided to
the most desirable destination.The above verse clearly indicates that SALAWAAT can also be on human beings
from Allah. Now does this mean that Allah reads for a certain time SALAWAAT on
people? It does not make sense.Rasool?s SALAWAAT for human beings
9103 Accept their contribution for the community. Purify their thoughts with
proper education and training so that their "Self" may grow. SALLI ALAIHIM
Your SALAWAAT is a great source of peace in their hearts. Allah is
Hearer, Knower.In the above verse Allah has ordered Muhammad to do SALAWAAT on human
beings. Does this mean that Muhammad reads SALAWAAT on people for a
certain number of times? It does not make sense.Allah?s and His Angels? SALAWAAT on human beings
3343 He it is Who bestows His blessings upon you, and supports you , and His angels, that He may bring you forth from darkness into the
Light. And Merciful is He, indeed, to those who attain belief.In the above verse Allah and His angles do SALAWAAT on momineen. Does this mean
that Allah and His angels reads SALAWAAT on people for a certain number of
times? It does not make sense.SALAWAT of human beings for RASOOL
999 And among the Bedouins are those who believe in Allah and the Last Day and
consider their spending as a means towards Allah and a means of
SALAWAAT-E-RASOOL . This will raise their ranks
with Allah. Allah will embrace them with His Mercy. Verily, Allah is Forgiving,
Gracious.The above verse explains the concept of SALAWAAT by describing ?Spending? as a
means of ?support?.Now see the most commonly referred verse according to which momineen should do
SALAWAAT on Muhammad3356 Verily, Allah and His angels bless the Messenger and support his Mission
. O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! Support his
Mission in total submission.Consider all the above verses and decide yourself.
Is SALAWAAT just from Momineen for Muhammad ?
The answer is no.
The SALAWAAT is also from Allah to human beings.
The SALAWAAT is also from Muhammad for human beings.
So when Allah does SALAWAAT on human beings, Does He read something for a
certain number of times on human beings?SALAWAAT is not reading something for a certain number of times but practically
doing something i.e. supporting Muhammad?s mission by whatever means
we can.SALAWAAT is not something that should be a bone of contention whether there
should be a SALAWAAT before azan or not. It has an utterly different meanings
and objectives.Thanks for answer
So is there any connection between arabic word for prayer and arabic word for help/sipport (salawaat) ? Im talking about arabic grammar