Math of Quran

good_logic

Peace ccamurad.

Where are you getting these fractions from?

You say it is " Math of Qoran"? Where are the Qoran verses that say that?

Peace.

ccamurad

Salam,
Quran 411-12 and 4176 state the Qur'anic inheritance law. When a man dies, and is leaving behind three daughters, his two parents and his wife, they will receive the respective shares of 2/3 for the 3 daughters together, 1/3 for the parents together and 1/8 for the wife which adds up to more than the available estate. A second example A man leaves only his mother, his wife and two sisters, then they receive 1/3 , 1/4 and 2/3 , which again adds up to 15/12 of the available property.

ccamurad

411
?Allah (thus) directs you as regards your Children's (Inheritance) to the male, a portion equal to that of two females if only daughters, two or more, their share is two-thirds of the inheritance; if only one, her share is a half. For parents, a sixth share of the inheritance to each, if the deceased left children; if no children, and the parents are the (only) heirs, the mother has a third; if the deceased Left brothers (or sisters) the mother has a sixth. (The distribution in all cases ('s) after the payment of legacies and debts??

4 12
?In what your wives leave, your share is a half, if they leave no child; but if they leave a child, ye get a fourth; after payment of legacies and debts. In what ye leave, their share is a fourth, if ye leave no child; but if ye leave a child, they get an eighth; after payment of legacies and debts??

4176
?If it is a man that dies, leaving a sister but no child, she shall have half the inheritance If (such a deceased was) a woman, who left no child, Her brother takes her inheritance If there are two sisters, they shall have two-thirds of the inheritance (between them) if there are brothers and sisters, (they share), the male having twice the share of the female. Thus doth Allah make clear to you (His law), lest ye err. And Allah hath knowledge of all things.?

good_logic

Peace ccamurad.

So it is your Math that does not add up.

You are forgetting the " if"s. That means you cancel the last share every time the word " if" is mentioned!

You do not add up all the shares? " if" that last one did not exist!

Peace.

Noon_waalqalami

So it is your Math that does not add up.

You are forgetting the " if"s. That means you cancel the last share every time the word " if" is mentioned!

You do not add up all the shares? " if" that last one did not exist!

Peace good logic,

Why not then use your favorite translation and add it up for him?

pls help to understand MATH of Quran

Man dies leaving behind
Wife is1/8 = 3/24 (412)
Daughters 2/3 = 16/24 (4176)
Father 1/6 = 4/24 (411)
Mother1/6 = 4/24(411)
Total = 27/24=1.125 NOT equal to 1

Woman dies leaving no descendants or ascendants
Husband, (1/2) = 1/2 (412)
Brother (everything) = 2/2(4176)
Total = 3/2 =1.5 NOT equal to 1

Woman dies leaving no ascendants or descendants and no brother
Husband, (1/2) = 3/6 (412, 4176)
Sister (1/2) = 3/6 (411)
Mother (1/3) = 2/6 (411)
Total = 8/6 =1.33 NOT equal to 1

Man dies leaving behind
Wife1/4 = 3/12 (412)
Mother 1/3 = 4/12 (411)
Sisters 2/3 = 8/12 ((4176)
Total = 15/12 =1.25 NOT equal to 1

Peace,

Most your posts spread anti-Islamic and missionary contradictions -- do you really want to understand?

Here are all combinations http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604035.msg305563#msg305563

ccamurad

Salam,

Always I try to understand false calims about Quran. Thanx to help for the link.

good_logic

Peace Noon Waalqalami

You have already done it. No need for me to do it as well..

Thank you.

Peace.

Indelwyn

Someone needs to make a program, where you can just punch in the money and the ppl who are going to get the inheritance and then hit calculate... done.
This math kills me. I honestly think I am dividing it up evenly between my sons and daughter and calling it the day. This way I don't have to worry about my sons not taking care of their sister. She will have what she needs without favoring the males of the family.

farida

Someone needs to make a program, where you can just punch in the money and the ppl who are going to get the inheritance and then hit calculate... done.
This math kills me.

Salaam
That is a really good idea.

This way I don't have to worry about my sons not taking care of their sister. She will have what she needs without favoring the males of the family.

Who says that the boys have to look after their sisters in return for double share?
Peace

Noon_waalqalami

Someone needs to make a program, where you can just punch in the money and the ppl who are going to get the inheritance and then hit calculate... done.
This math kills me. I honestly think I am dividing it up evenly between my sons and daughter and calling it the day. This way I don't have to worry about my sons not taking care of their sister. She will have what she needs without favoring the males of the family.

Peace Indelwyn, there lots of calculators mostly all wrong.

It's best to make out a will since you know your situation.
It's the same if one is unsure when to fast, feed the poor.

GODsubmitter

That's for Qur'an being a clear guidance ???

Noon_waalqalami

That's for Qur'an being a clear guidance ???

It's clear for those who take their time to study it carefully and not rely on stupid sites, codes, or idiot messengers.

StopS

There is no way there will ever be agreement over this. Some people will say you need to learn more and it will be clear, others simply re-translate words until they fit what they want and others will create examples which fit their needs, as is the case in the link provided above. There are a couple of inheritance calculators on the net, but they don't really follow the guidelines as set out in the Koran and they provide different results.
The Koran is neither a science text-book nor a maths instruction manual, so I would leave it as spiritual guidance and not expect everything to add up precisely down to 10 decimal places.

GODsubmitter

There is no way there will ever be agreement over this. Some people will say you need to learn more and it will be clear, others simply re-translate words until they fit what they want and others will create examples which fit their needs, as is the case in the link provided above. There are a couple of inheritance calculators on the net, but they don't really follow the guidelines as set out in the Koran and they provide different results.
The Koran is neither a science text-book nor a maths instruction manual, so I would leave it as spiritual guidance and not expect everything to add up precisely down to 10 decimal places.

Very well said! Thank you
sun