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3 Prayers makes more sense than 5.

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  • G Offline
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    good_logic
    wrote on last edited by
    #19

    Peace mmkhan.

    I will first remind you, that you made the comment of " ulama" about me and Amina when we were discussing " there is no compulsion"...

    Second, Quote When Salawat is used which is plural, AlWusta is not included in that Salawat?

    How many salat is the following?

    You shall consistently observe the Contact Prayers, and the middle prayer, and devote yourselves totally to God[]
    I believe this reference is from Qoran! Is this " Salawat + salat wusta"?

    Peace.

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      Noon_waalqalami
      wrote on last edited by
      #20

      Prove what? Read the posts properly and hopefully you will see that this discussion has been going on for a good few years. It depends what proof you require?

      Peace good logic,

      We are discussing and since you posted this...

      Peace all.

      More to ponder?

      There are 5 daily prayers?

      Sura 1 proves there are 5 daily contact prayers

      Chapter 1 has 7 verses
      17 is the number of Rakaats/ units in the 5 daily prayers.
      2 + 4 + 4 + 3 + 4= 17

      29 Arabic words in the 7 verses of chapter 1
      29 is the number of initial chapters in the Quran

      114 chapters overall in the Quran.
      114 - 29 = 85
      85 is the number of uninitial chapters in the Quran
      85 = 17 x 5

      17 Rakaats/units in 5 daily prayers

      Or is there? Discuss.

      Peace.

      Why 17? Why 2 + 4 + 4 + 3 + 4= 17 not any of these?

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        Peace good logic,

        We are discussing and since you posted this...

        Why 17? Why 2 + 4 + 4 + 3 + 4= 17 not any of these?

        8+9 =17
        ...
        cut
        ...
        9+5+1+1+1 =17

        Salaam,

        Salaam,
        Bender

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          prove it ......from quran ...and also give the defination of rakat from quran

          Peace Wasi,

          There is no definition of rakat in the Quran
          The verse that requires a number of rakats per salat are not in the Quran
          The Khutbah for Jum'a is not in the Quran
          How to perform ghusl
          The Hanafi sect.
          The Shafi sect.
          The Hanbali sect.
          The Maliki sect.
          The Jafari sect.
          All Sunni and Shii sects.
          The wearing of the headscarf.
          The wearing of the veil.
          Segregation of men and women.
          The congregational prayers at the end of the month of fasting
          and at the festival of sacrifice are not in the Quran

          The guidelines about salat should be used for uniformity, hence the numbers.
          We can't have a congregation where some are making 2 some 3 and some 4 rakats.
          Salat came to us intact thru time therefore no need of revelation.
          Not broke don't fix.

          Peace O0

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            Peace Noon Waalkalami.

            Because the" proof?" in sura 2 gives you 1 and only one way 24434) 2+4+4+3+4= 17.

            Go back and check!.

            I am sorry I cannot give you any credit for finding all the combinations of single digits that add up to 17.

            Peace.

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              Peace mmkhan.

              I do not want you to think I have not read your " post 1 reply". I read it. It has not solved anything as far as this discussion is concerned. Why?

              1- Your explanation is just another opinion, although you quote some verses, they are not evidence of what you go on to explain.

              2- your explanation about " salat wusta " also has no evidence provided with it. It is just an opinion.
              It does not include " verse/s" from Qoran confirming that explanation.

              You see brother khan, just because we use links/ other peoples views/ideas, does not always mean it is a solution unless clear verse/s from Qoran are given as evidence.

              So that is why the discussion goes on.

              Is it 3, 5 ...? Keep discussing!

              Peace.

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                Peace mmkhan.

                I will first remind you, that you made the comment of " ulama" about me and Amina when we were discussing " there is no compulsion"...

                Second, Quote When Salawat is used which is plural, AlWusta is not included in that Salawat?

                How many salat is the following?

                You shall consistently observe the Contact Prayers, and the middle prayer, and devote yourselves totally to God[]
                I believe this reference is from Qoran! Is this " Salawat + salat wusta"?

                Peace.

                So wusta prayer is not part of the contact prayers?

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                  This is my point which I would like to be proven - the rakaat amount being in numbers doesn't prove anything, because like the brother illustriously demostated, there are tonnes of combinations linking to the number 17.

                  In Edip Yuksel's post (and a few others here), there is a quotation from the Qur'an where Allah tells us that the named salaat are obligatory - and it is my understanding that only the before sunrise, after sunset and "middle" prayers are named.

                  MMKhan has further stated that the middle prayer could be Juma.

                  Meaning either 2 prayers daily, before the day and at the end of the day. (or) a third prayer in the middle.

                  My whole point on this issue is that this makes a lot more sense than 5 daily prayers.

                  Because Allah is All Knowing, Most Merciful, and He would have known when He sent the Qur'an that this day in age would come where most people are either working full time or are in full time education. Anybody in that situation finds it almost impossible to pray the 5 daily prayers on time.

                  Allah said He has made the religion easy for us, and He has not made it a burden.

                  So, 2/3 prayers a day is certainly not a burden, anybody can do them.

                  Whereas 5 daily prayers; hardly anyone can do them, even if they wanted too (because of work/education comitments.)

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                    Peace all.

                    Please reflect and read all the points. Who can use Qoran alone evidence and say clearly that it is

                    2 salat, or 3 salat or 5 salat or... a day or no salat etc...

                    Many are still asking the following questions

                    Is there a salat as a ritual?

                    Is there a minimum number per day then it is up to us?

                    Is there a certain number per day, no more ,no less?

                    Is there a Congregational salat on Friday? is it obligatory?

                    Are the timings of the daily salat flexible? How flexible? is there a range of time? what defines it?

                    Have they all been named ?

                    Is it up to us? Is there a common way? how and why?

                    And so on....

                    Is the discussion ongoing?

                    This is an opportunity for those who think they can close this discussion?

                    Peace.

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                      Peace Noon Waalkalami.

                      Because the" proof?" in sura 2 gives you 1 and only one way( 24434) 2+4+4+3+4= 17.

                      Go back and check!.

                      I am sorry I cannot give you any credit for finding all the combinations of single digits that add up to 17.

                      Peace.

                      Peace good logic,

                      What you call "proof" is absurdly ridiculous to anyone with elementary math.

                      This is extremely naive simpleton playing with numbers or basic numerology ...

                      Chapter 2 proves there are 5 daily contact prayers

                      Chapter 2 is the 1st initial chapter
                      Chapter 2 has 286 verses
                      1286
                      1+2+8+6 = 17 There are 17 units/Rakaats in a day

                      1286 x 19 = 24434
                      2 4 4 3 4 are units of prayers in a day
                      2+4+4+3+4 = 17

                      Let me make clear; when those infatuated with number post stuff like the above and say they are believers in the book; it is really embarrassing and in the same category of ignorance that one sees throughout the world like the cattle worshipers in India or Sunni/Shia fanatics ready to take a bullet in the head over a cartoon.

                      The main reason you are too lazy to learn simple math combinations and consistently fixated with all things 19 which has conditioned your mind, your thoughts, an obsession -- subliminal idolization!

                      You are not aware and the cure is to purposely do the opposite every time you see 19 which gives you a quick buzz and instead of being drawn/allured to 19 you need to consciously decide to deny, avoid, reject, and know it's a fixation/fitna and block it from your thoughts, rid your mind, free yourself ...

                      You will remember this post each time you see 19
                      You will remember this post each time you see 19
                      You will remember this post each time you see 19

                      Peace

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                        Peace Noon Waalkalami.

                        First I forgive you. I ask the Lord to give us both more patience so we can discuss and stay "friends" even if we disagree.

                        Second you are jumping to conclusions. Just because I posted some numbers and asked all to discuss?
                        You do not like numbers do you? especially 19?
                        I have no problem discussing anything as long as I use reason and good manners.Try and relax and enjoy the conversations.

                        Third I am only concerned about whether my creator approves of what I do. I respect everyone including yourself.

                        Finally whenever a bad thought/idea enters my head I remember GOD, not numbers or 19 like you are suggesting.

                        May the Lord guide us both to His truth.

                        Peace brother.

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                          Peace Steven,

                          Because you cannot offer the five prayers does not nullify them.
                          I have trouble myself making the five, but I consider them as opportunities
                          rather than a problem.

                          Therefore, be patient in the face of their utterances, and praise and glorify your Lord before sunrise (1)and before sunset(2). And during the night (3)glorify Him, as well at both (4)(5)ends of the day, that you may be happy.

                          four of the daily salat can easily fit into this ayat (sun's decline till the darkness of the night
                          Zhuhr,Asr,Maghrib,Isha)Plus Farj
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                          Aqimi alssalata lidulooki alshshamsi ila ghasaqi allayli waqur-ana alfajri inna qur-ana alfajri kana mashhoodan
                          YUSUFALI Establish regular prayers at the sun's decline till the darkness of the night(4 salats), and the morning prayer(5)and reading for the prayer and reading in the morning carry their testimony. parenthesis are mine

                          SHAKIR Attend constantly to prayers and to the middle prayer and stand up truly obedient to Allah

                          The middle prayer would be asr since it is the third prayer of the day

                          Also the prayers do not have to be named in the Quran because rituals that come to us
                          from the distant past intact like the positions of salat, the five prayers, and the khutbah
                          tells us they are correct and do not need to be revealed again.

                          Peace O0

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                            I have a small question about the prayer times. Today my devout Sunni colleague was very upset as she was unable to do her noon prayer at the "exact" time as she normally does. I suggested she could still do it as it was not yet time for the afternoon prayer. She did not understand what I was saying and repeated I have missed it. I prefer to do my noon prayer when I get home from work around 2pm as there is only a Sunni place at work for prayers. Her comment made me wonder if I too am "missing" my prayers by doing them during the the time period before the next one is due. I read in Quran somewhere that we should hasten to do our prayers and that there is a correct time for prayers. Now I am wondering what are the main points of discussion supporting a time period as opposed to an exact time?

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                              Peace good logic,

                              We are discussing and since you posted this...

                              Why 17? Why 2 + 4 + 4 + 3 + 4= 17 not any of these?

                              8+9 =17
                              9+8 =17
                              1+7+9 =17
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                              5+1+7+3+1 =17
                              5+1+8+1+2 =17
                              5+1+8+2+1 =17
                              5+1+9+1+1 =17
                              5+2+1+1+8 =17
                              5+2+1+2+7 =17
                              5+2+1+3+6 =17
                              5+2+1+4+5 =17
                              5+2+1+5+4 =17
                              5+2+1+6+3 =17
                              5+2+1+7+2 =17
                              5+2+1+8+1 =17
                              5+2+2+1+7 =17
                              5+2+2+2+6 =17
                              5+2+2+3+5 =17
                              5+2+2+4+4 =17
                              5+2+2+5+3 =17
                              5+2+2+6+2 =17
                              5+2+2+7+1 =17
                              5+2+3+1+6 =17
                              5+2+3+2+5 =17
                              5+2+3+3+4 =17
                              5+2+3+4+3 =17
                              5+2+3+5+2 =17
                              5+2+3+6+1 =17
                              5+2+4+1+5 =17
                              5+2+4+2+4 =17
                              5+2+4+3+3 =17
                              5+2+4+4+2 =17
                              5+2+4+5+1 =17
                              5+2+5+1+4 =17
                              5+2+5+2+3 =17
                              5+2+5+3+2 =17
                              5+2+5+4+1 =17
                              5+2+6+1+3 =17
                              5+2+6+2+2 =17
                              5+2+6+3+1 =17
                              5+2+7+1+2 =17
                              5+2+7+2+1 =17
                              5+2+8+1+1 =17
                              5+3+1+1+7 =17
                              5+3+1+2+6 =17
                              5+3+1+3+5 =17
                              5+3+1+4+4 =17
                              5+3+1+5+3 =17
                              5+3+1+6+2 =17
                              5+3+1+7+1 =17
                              5+3+2+1+6 =17
                              5+3+2+2+5 =17
                              5+3+2+3+4 =17
                              5+3+2+4+3 =17
                              5+3+2+5+2 =17
                              5+3+2+6+1 =17
                              5+3+3+1+5 =17
                              5+3+3+2+4 =17
                              5+3+3+3+3 =17
                              5+3+3+4+2 =17
                              5+3+3+5+1 =17
                              5+3+4+1+4 =17
                              5+3+4+2+3 =17
                              5+3+4+3+2 =17
                              5+3+4+4+1 =17
                              5+3+5+1+3 =17
                              5+3+5+2+2 =17
                              5+3+5+3+1 =17
                              5+3+6+1+2 =17
                              5+3+6+2+1 =17
                              5+3+7+1+1 =17
                              5+4+1+1+6 =17
                              5+4+1+2+5 =17
                              5+4+1+3+4 =17
                              5+4+1+4+3 =17
                              5+4+1+5+2 =17
                              5+4+1+6+1 =17
                              5+4+2+1+5 =17
                              5+4+2+2+4 =17
                              5+4+2+3+3 =17
                              5+4+2+4+2 =17
                              5+4+2+5+1 =17
                              5+4+3+1+4 =17
                              5+4+3+2+3 =17
                              5+4+3+3+2 =17
                              5+4+3+4+1 =17
                              5+4+4+1+3 =17
                              5+4+4+2+2 =17
                              5+4+4+3+1 =17
                              5+4+5+1+2 =17
                              5+4+5+2+1 =17
                              5+4+6+1+1 =17
                              5+5+1+1+5 =17
                              5+5+1+2+4 =17
                              5+5+1+3+3 =17
                              5+5+1+4+2 =17
                              5+5+1+5+1 =17
                              5+5+2+1+4 =17
                              5+5+2+2+3 =17
                              5+5+2+3+2 =17
                              5+5+2+4+1 =17
                              5+5+3+1+3 =17
                              5+5+3+2+2 =17
                              5+5+3+3+1 =17
                              5+5+4+1+2 =17
                              5+5+4+2+1 =17
                              5+5+5+1+1 =17
                              5+6+1+1+4 =17
                              5+6+1+2+3 =17
                              5+6+1+3+2 =17
                              5+6+1+4+1 =17
                              5+6+2+1+3 =17
                              5+6+2+2+2 =17
                              5+6+2+3+1 =17
                              5+6+3+1+2 =17
                              5+6+3+2+1 =17
                              5+6+4+1+1 =17
                              5+7+1+1+3 =17
                              5+7+1+2+2 =17
                              5+7+1+3+1 =17
                              5+7+2+1+2 =17
                              5+7+2+2+1 =17
                              5+7+3+1+1 =17
                              5+8+1+1+2 =17
                              5+8+1+2+1 =17
                              5+8+2+1+1 =17
                              5+9+1+1+1 =17
                              6+1+1+1+8 =17
                              6+1+1+2+7 =17
                              6+1+1+3+6 =17
                              6+1+1+4+5 =17
                              6+1+1+5+4 =17
                              6+1+1+6+3 =17
                              6+1+1+7+2 =17
                              6+1+1+8+1 =17
                              6+1+2+1+7 =17
                              6+1+2+2+6 =17
                              6+1+2+3+5 =17
                              6+1+2+4+4 =17
                              6+1+2+5+3 =17
                              6+1+2+6+2 =17
                              6+1+2+7+1 =17
                              6+1+3+1+6 =17
                              6+1+3+2+5 =17
                              6+1+3+3+4 =17
                              6+1+3+4+3 =17
                              6+1+3+5+2 =17
                              6+1+3+6+1 =17
                              6+1+4+1+5 =17
                              6+1+4+2+4 =17
                              6+1+4+3+3 =17
                              6+1+4+4+2 =17
                              6+1+4+5+1 =17
                              6+1+5+1+4 =17
                              6+1+5+2+3 =17
                              6+1+5+3+2 =17
                              6+1+5+4+1 =17
                              6+1+6+1+3 =17
                              6+1+6+2+2 =17
                              6+1+6+3+1 =17
                              6+1+7+1+2 =17
                              6+1+7+2+1 =17
                              6+1+8+1+1 =17
                              6+2+1+1+7 =17
                              6+2+1+2+6 =17
                              6+2+1+3+5 =17
                              6+2+1+4+4 =17
                              6+2+1+5+3 =17
                              6+2+1+6+2 =17
                              6+2+1+7+1 =17
                              6+2+2+1+6 =17
                              6+2+2+2+5 =17
                              6+2+2+3+4 =17
                              6+2+2+4+3 =17
                              6+2+2+5+2 =17
                              6+2+2+6+1 =17
                              6+2+3+1+5 =17
                              6+2+3+2+4 =17
                              6+2+3+3+3 =17
                              6+2+3+4+2 =17
                              6+2+3+5+1 =17
                              6+2+4+1+4 =17
                              6+2+4+2+3 =17
                              6+2+4+3+2 =17
                              6+2+4+4+1 =17
                              6+2+5+1+3 =17
                              6+2+5+2+2 =17
                              6+2+5+3+1 =17
                              6+2+6+1+2 =17
                              6+2+6+2+1 =17
                              6+2+7+1+1 =17
                              6+3+1+1+6 =17
                              6+3+1+2+5 =17
                              6+3+1+3+4 =17
                              6+3+1+4+3 =17
                              6+3+1+5+2 =17
                              6+3+1+6+1 =17
                              6+3+2+1+5 =17
                              6+3+2+2+4 =17
                              6+3+2+3+3 =17
                              6+3+2+4+2 =17
                              6+3+2+5+1 =17
                              6+3+3+1+4 =17
                              6+3+3+2+3 =17
                              6+3+3+3+2 =17
                              6+3+3+4+1 =17
                              6+3+4+1+3 =17
                              6+3+4+2+2 =17
                              6+3+4+3+1 =17
                              6+3+5+1+2 =17
                              6+3+5+2+1 =17
                              6+3+6+1+1 =17
                              6+4+1+1+5 =17
                              6+4+1+2+4 =17
                              6+4+1+3+3 =17
                              6+4+1+4+2 =17
                              6+4+1+5+1 =17
                              6+4+2+1+4 =17
                              6+4+2+2+3 =17
                              6+4+2+3+2 =17
                              6+4+2+4+1 =17
                              6+4+3+1+3 =17
                              6+4+3+2+2 =17
                              6+4+3+3+1 =17
                              6+4+4+1+2 =17
                              6+4+4+2+1 =17
                              6+4+5+1+1 =17
                              6+5+1+1+4 =17
                              6+5+1+2+3 =17
                              6+5+1+3+2 =17
                              6+5+1+4+1 =17
                              6+5+2+1+3 =17
                              6+5+2+2+2 =17
                              6+5+2+3+1 =17
                              6+5+3+1+2 =17
                              6+5+3+2+1 =17
                              6+5+4+1+1 =17
                              6+6+1+1+3 =17
                              6+6+1+2+2 =17
                              6+6+1+3+1 =17
                              6+6+2+1+2 =17
                              6+6+2+2+1 =17
                              6+6+3+1+1 =17
                              6+7+1+1+2 =17
                              6+7+1+2+1 =17
                              6+7+2+1+1 =17
                              6+8+1+1+1 =17
                              7+1+1+1+7 =17
                              7+1+1+2+6 =17
                              7+1+1+3+5 =17
                              7+1+1+4+4 =17
                              7+1+1+5+3 =17
                              7+1+1+6+2 =17
                              7+1+1+7+1 =17
                              7+1+2+1+6 =17
                              7+1+2+2+5 =17
                              7+1+2+3+4 =17
                              7+1+2+4+3 =17
                              7+1+2+5+2 =17
                              7+1+2+6+1 =17
                              7+1+3+1+5 =17
                              7+1+3+2+4 =17
                              7+1+3+3+3 =17
                              7+1+3+4+2 =17
                              7+1+3+5+1 =17
                              7+1+4+1+4 =17
                              7+1+4+2+3 =17
                              7+1+4+3+2 =17
                              7+1+4+4+1 =17
                              7+1+5+1+3 =17
                              7+1+5+2+2 =17
                              7+1+5+3+1 =17
                              7+1+6+1+2 =17
                              7+1+6+2+1 =17
                              7+1+7+1+1 =17
                              7+2+1+1+6 =17
                              7+2+1+2+5 =17
                              7+2+1+3+4 =17
                              7+2+1+4+3 =17
                              7+2+1+5+2 =17
                              7+2+1+6+1 =17
                              7+2+2+1+5 =17
                              7+2+2+2+4 =17
                              7+2+2+3+3 =17
                              7+2+2+4+2 =17
                              7+2+2+5+1 =17
                              7+2+3+1+4 =17
                              7+2+3+2+3 =17
                              7+2+3+3+2 =17
                              7+2+3+4+1 =17
                              7+2+4+1+3 =17
                              7+2+4+2+2 =17
                              7+2+4+3+1 =17
                              7+2+5+1+2 =17
                              7+2+5+2+1 =17
                              7+2+6+1+1 =17
                              7+3+1+1+5 =17
                              7+3+1+2+4 =17
                              7+3+1+3+3 =17
                              7+3+1+4+2 =17
                              7+3+1+5+1 =17
                              7+3+2+1+4 =17
                              7+3+2+2+3 =17
                              7+3+2+3+2 =17
                              7+3+2+4+1 =17
                              7+3+3+1+3 =17
                              7+3+3+2+2 =17
                              7+3+3+3+1 =17
                              7+3+4+1+2 =17
                              7+3+4+2+1 =17
                              7+3+5+1+1 =17
                              7+4+1+1+4 =17
                              7+4+1+2+3 =17
                              7+4+1+3+2 =17
                              7+4+1+4+1 =17
                              7+4+2+1+3 =17
                              7+4+2+2+2 =17
                              7+4+2+3+1 =17
                              7+4+3+1+2 =17
                              7+4+3+2+1 =17
                              7+4+4+1+1 =17
                              7+5+1+1+3 =17
                              7+5+1+2+2 =17
                              7+5+1+3+1 =17
                              7+5+2+1+2 =17
                              7+5+2+2+1 =17
                              7+5+3+1+1 =17
                              7+6+1+1+2 =17
                              7+6+1+2+1 =17
                              7+6+2+1+1 =17
                              7+7+1+1+1 =17
                              8+1+1+1+6 =17
                              8+1+1+2+5 =17
                              8+1+1+3+4 =17
                              8+1+1+4+3 =17
                              8+1+1+5+2 =17
                              8+1+1+6+1 =17
                              8+1+2+1+5 =17
                              8+1+2+2+4 =17
                              8+1+2+3+3 =17
                              8+1+2+4+2 =17
                              8+1+2+5+1 =17
                              8+1+3+1+4 =17
                              8+1+3+2+3 =17
                              8+1+3+3+2 =17
                              8+1+3+4+1 =17
                              8+1+4+1+3 =17
                              8+1+4+2+2 =17
                              8+1+4+3+1 =17
                              8+1+5+1+2 =17
                              8+1+5+2+1 =17
                              8+1+6+1+1 =17
                              8+2+1+1+5 =17
                              8+2+1+2+4 =17
                              8+2+1+3+3 =17
                              8+2+1+4+2 =17
                              8+2+1+5+1 =17
                              8+2+2+1+4 =17
                              8+2+2+2+3 =17
                              8+2+2+3+2 =17
                              8+2+2+4+1 =17
                              8+2+3+1+3 =17
                              8+2+3+2+2 =17
                              8+2+3+3+1 =17
                              8+2+4+1+2 =17
                              8+2+4+2+1 =17
                              8+2+5+1+1 =17
                              8+3+1+1+4 =17
                              8+3+1+2+3 =17
                              8+3+1+3+2 =17
                              8+3+1+4+1 =17
                              8+3+2+1+3 =17
                              8+3+2+2+2 =17
                              8+3+2+3+1 =17
                              8+3+3+1+2 =17
                              8+3+3+2+1 =17
                              8+3+4+1+1 =17
                              8+4+1+1+3 =17
                              8+4+1+2+2 =17
                              8+4+1+3+1 =17
                              8+4+2+1+2 =17
                              8+4+2+2+1 =17
                              8+4+3+1+1 =17
                              8+5+1+1+2 =17
                              8+5+1+2+1 =17
                              8+5+2+1+1 =17
                              8+6+1+1+1 =17
                              9+1+1+1+5 =17
                              9+1+1+2+4 =17
                              9+1+1+3+3 =17
                              9+1+1+4+2 =17
                              9+1+1+5+1 =17
                              9+1+2+1+4 =17
                              9+1+2+2+3 =17
                              9+1+2+3+2 =17
                              9+1+2+4+1 =17
                              9+1+3+1+3 =17
                              9+1+3+2+2 =17
                              9+1+3+3+1 =17
                              9+1+4+1+2 =17
                              9+1+4+2+1 =17
                              9+1+5+1+1 =17
                              9+2+1+1+4 =17
                              9+2+1+2+3 =17
                              9+2+1+3+2 =17
                              9+2+1+4+1 =17
                              9+2+2+1+3 =17
                              9+2+2+2+2 =17
                              9+2+2+3+1 =17
                              9+2+3+1+2 =17
                              9+2+3+2+1 =17
                              9+2+4+1+1 =17
                              9+3+1+1+3 =17
                              9+3+1+2+2 =17
                              9+3+1+3+1 =17
                              9+3+2+1+2 =17
                              9+3+2+2+1 =17
                              9+3+3+1+1 =17
                              9+4+1+1+2 =17
                              9+4+1+2+1 =17
                              9+4+2+1+1 =17
                              9+5+1+1+1 =17

                              rotfl

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                                YUSUFALI Establish regular prayers at the sun's decline till the darkness of the night(4 salats),

                                confused on this, sun's decline till the darkness of the night is the time from mahgrib to eisha so where does that make 4 salat?
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                                  Peace all.

                                  Please reflect and read all the points. Who can use Qoran alone evidence and say clearly that it is

                                  2 salat, or 3 salat or 5 salat or... a day or no salat etc...

                                  Many are still asking the following questions

                                  Is there a salat as a ritual?

                                  Is there a minimum number per day then it is up to us?

                                  Is there a certain number per day, no more ,no less?

                                  Is there a Congregational salat on Friday? is it obligatory?

                                  Are the timings of the daily salat flexible? How flexible? is there a range of time? what defines it?

                                  Have they all been named ?

                                  Is it up to us? Is there a common way? how and why?

                                  And so on....

                                  Is the discussion ongoing?

                                  This is an opportunity for those who think they can close this discussion?

                                  Peace.

                                  So wusta prayer is not part of the contact prayers?

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                                    Peace Ayisha.
                                    Sorry for the little delay I was finishing my prayer.
                                    Go ahead sister add that question to the list.

                                    Welcome back to the forum.
                                    Peace.

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                                      Peace Ayisha.
                                      Sorry for the little delay I was finishing my prayer.
                                      Go ahead sister add that question to the list.

                                      Welcome back to the forum.
                                      Peace.

                                      Peace and thank you for the welcome back. peace

                                      I have 3 children, let's say 1 is called 'a kid', 2 are called 'kids' and 3 or more are called 'salawat'. Their names are Fred, Joe and John. You are taking the salawat (all 3 of them) out to the park but lil Joe is one that loves to do a runner... So I say 'look after the salawat (meaning all 3 kids) and especially the middle one.............the middle one is Joe and he is included in the 3 but because I say and especially the middle one doesn't mean it's an addition to the 3 kids (salawat) but that there are extra instructions to do with one of the 3.......

                                      If that makes sense. peace

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                                        Peace wasi.

                                        Prove what? Read the posts properly and hopefully you will see that this discussion has been going on for a good few years. It depends what proof you require?

                                        Join the discussion , you are welcome!

                                        Peace.

                                        salaam good logic

                                        where do you find rakat in the quran ?.

                                        i have not seen any rakat from quran

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                                          Peace Ayisha,

                                          confused on this, sun's decline till the darkness of the night is the time from mahgrib to eisha so where does that make 4 salat?
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                                          The sun begins its decline after high noon (Zhuhr) then moves thru the middle afternoon (Asr)
                                          then sets (maghrib) until the darkness (Isha)

                                          What do you think of 20130 is it 5 salat?

                                          Therefore, be patient in the face of their utterances, and praise and glorify your Lord before sunrise (1)and before sunset(2). And during the night (3)glorify Him, as well at both (4)(5)ends of the day, that you may be happy.

                                          Peace O0

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