Have you listened the recitation of Straightline Wind?
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Over it are Nineteen.
It is RK's English, not Arabic of Qur'aan.
http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/074.%20Al%20Mudathir/74.30a.gif
Nineteen males-Angels are appointed for guarding upon her-Scorching Hell-Prison.
"Ha" is a third person, singular, feminine pronoun referring to a known feminine object.See how he translates the same pepositional phrase with "Ha" pronoun at another place
Had Rashad Khalifa been honest
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It is RK's English, not Arabic of Qur'aan.
Excuse me?
RK translation is 'Over it is nineteen.' that is not what I wrote.
I do NOT use RK translation.
http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/074.%20Al%20Mudathir/74.30a.gif
Nineteen males-Angels are appointed for guarding upon her-Scorching Hell-Prison.
"Ha" is a third person, singular, feminine pronoun referring to a known feminine object.Well at least we agree on something, the 'it' is not Quran or the basmallah but hell. handshake
peace
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So how come I've always been told Allah has no gender?
Gender in the sense of sex is not attributed to Allah the Exalted. This is what you were always told. When we hear about male pin and female pin we do not perceive that they have anything sex related. Gender is related to matter and life created from matter. Not to the One-the Only Who is not matter or from matter but the Creator of matter and life from matter.
He the Exalted Himself has said that He has no feminine counterpart-companion. Therefore, He the Exalted is always mentioned in mansculine constructions and pronoun.
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Excuse me?
RK translation is 'Over it is nineteen.' that is not what I wrote.
I do NOT use RK translation.
Well at least we agree on something, the 'it' is not Quran or the basmallah but hell. handshake
peace
Sorry, I just saw highlighted "it" and missing "are". I hope you have gone through the link. A pronoun is used to avoid repeating noun that is already mentioned. Manipulators ignore simple rules of grammar of languages. Qur'aan is masculine, how "ha" could refer to it?
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Sorry, I just saw highlighted "it" and missing "are". I hope you have gone through the link. A pronoun is used to avoid repeating noun that is already mentioned. Manipulators ignore simple rules of grammar of languages. Qur'aan is masculine, how "ha" could refer to it?
Totally agree and think I said the same somewhere way back but it was my 'English' grammar that I used on the 'translation', not by the Arabic so was questioning how in Arabic an 'it' would be referred to as in a 3rd 'gender' like in English, but you're saying this is referring to an 'it' that's feminine.
I think I get it hypno
peace
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Totally agree and think I said the same somewhere way back but it was my 'English' grammar that I used on the 'translation', not by the Arabic so was questioning how in Arabic an 'it' would be referred to as in a 3rd 'gender' like in English, but you're saying this is referring to an 'it' that's feminine.
I think I get it hypno
peace
Thanks, one of the major lapses in translations of Qur'aan, whatever might be the target language, is overlooking the gender of nouns, pronouns and verb. One such glaring example is that all translations of 37 are incorrect, and thereby all stories and assertions made about it are erroneous. This happened by just ignoring the masculine subject of a verb and a masculine pronoun which refers to Qur'aan and not to Ayaat Mutashabihaat.
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37
Why is there " Multiple meanings and allegorical verses"?
How does one understand it?
The answer is in the verse itself
" None knows its true meaning except God and those well founded in knowledge"In other words it is God who explains it ( To those who are sincerely seeking knowledge from its true source and have no " other motives" except to redeem themselves- seek the true path of the Creator-)
The verse goes on to say" Only those who possess intelligence will take heed".
May the Lord grant /give His knowledge to all those who seek Him Alone.Peace.
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37
Why is there " Multiple meanings and allegorical verses"?
How does one understand it?
The answer is in the verse itself
" None knows its true meaning except God and those well founded in knowledge"In other words it is God who explains it ( To those who are sincerely seeking knowledge from its true source and have no " other motives" except to redeem themselves- seek the true path of the Creator-)
The verse goes on to say" Only those who possess intelligence will take heed".
May the Lord grant /give His knowledge to all those who seek Him Alone.Peace.
This erroneous perception is based on understanding that the whole thing is about what is translated as "allegorical verses". "Ayaat" is feminine noun, and participles used as adjectival description are also feminine. And look at the verb and pronoun, it refers to Qur'aan since these are masculine.
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This erroneous perception is based on understanding that the whole thing is about what is translated as "allegorical verses". "Ayaat" is feminine noun, and participles used as adjectival description are also feminine. And look at the verb and pronoun, it refers to Qur'aan since these are masculine.
can you break that down into easy bites?
I have looked at the Ali translation and at yours and they appear to be saying the same thing to me, just yours has a lot more 'words'
peace
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can you break that down into easy bites?
I have looked at the Ali translation and at yours and they appear to be saying the same thing to me, just yours has a lot more 'words'
peace
I don't know that my heart had felt this asking. I, on starting work today, started breaking it down in easy bites, giving caption "Miscellany of Grand Qur'aan Format and Organization". It will take some time. "Format and Organization" is one important aspect for evaluation of books.
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can you break that down into easy bites?
I have looked at the Ali translation and at yours and they appear to be saying the same thing to me, just yours has a lot more 'words'
peace
Salamun alaikim,
Done it,
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604482.0