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    Bahman
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    whateverI don't know how to begin.

    My name is Wael. My mother is from marrocco and my father is Lebanese. Although my father is a Shia, my mom raised me to become a Sunni as herself. She even sent me to marrocco, in her native town called TIZNIT, for a year when i was 12 and it was there I became very religious. My aunt is a SHARIFA as we call it in Morrocco, it's a person who is allegedly from the prophet Muhammad's family, so some of my family members was very religious Sunnis. As I am born and raised up in Spain (that's the reason for why my English is so bad. So excuse my English) I always needed a place to belong to. In Spain I felt myself marroccan, and in vacations in Lebanon I felt myself marroccan but when I was in marrocco I didn't really felt myself home either. So I was searching for an identity. When i expressed my frustration to My mother who is a religious Sunnia, she would tell me that there is nothing called Spanish, marroccan or Lebanese but only something called Muslim and non Muslim . That made me comfortable. I was a Muslim and that became my identity. When I was sent to marrocco by my mother as a 13 years old, my family would increase my faith in sunnism and when I came back I began to wear jellaba(I don't know what it's called in English?) and the Islamic cap and I would follow all the rules in my religion. My mother was very happy for me but my father being a Shia was very dissatisfied with me following My mothers religion (sunnism) . He used to say "In our Arab tradition the son follow the father so you have to be Shia like me, not Sunni like your mother" . But I didn't cared about what my father said, as i was raised by my maternal family to become a Sunni and I was convinced that sunnism was the truth. Moreover my aunt was a SHARIFA which for me proved that I was on the right track. When I was 14 years old I begin doing DAWA(I don't know what it's called in English?) but most marroccans here in Spain aren't religious I began to travel abroad in order to give dawa with some of my friends, I was in holland, in Denmark , in Germany and UK where many Sunnis praised me for having so deep knowledge of sunnah and fosha compared to my age. In UK I found many religious Sunnis who praise me to the skies and for me UK Was my favorite place in Europe as it had sharia courts and as I saw many religious Muslims there. However my biggest idol was a goat looking man called zakir naik. I was a very close minded teenage, and also a sexist women hater. Women were nothing more then a sexual object created to lead us to do zina. So I felt it was best women were kept in their homes and if they went out they should be completely covered. I also felt disgust by non Muslims, they would go to hell, and by Muslims I regarded murdads quranist, Shia, alawi and so on. But deep inside myself I felt like I was missing something.... Watching my Spanish class mates do simple activities like listening to music made me feel sick to my stomach.. I remember some marroccan songs I loved to hear in my childhood but would deny myself to hear now since It was haram. But I made my heart hard as a stone I found comfort when my sheikh praised me for being strong enough to say no to music.
    My cousine from Morrocco visited me in Spain and told me that he had became a quranist. I demanded to know who made him kafir ? He mentioned free minds, said that he followed free minds but didn't really participate in the discussions but he had followed free minds and was convinced that Hadith were a fabrication. I then joined free minds, thinking that I could convert each and every murdad on that page back to Islam and sunnah but I felt in talk with someone named soldier of Allah. He litterly shattered my belief. First he made me realize that the ulama who I used to believe and follow blindly were not experts as I thought. He was a very though Provocing guy who made me realize that there is nothing scientific over science of Hadith.
    I then took a break and studied everything on my own, and everything soldier of Allah said just made more and more sense. As a last resort, I tried to read the Quran without having any Hadith or sunnah in mind in order to see whether Quran can be understood without Hadith and sunnah and surprisingly I was actually able to read the whole Quran and understand it without sunnah and Hadith! The "problem" is just that my understanding of Quran was VERY DIFFERENT without sunnah than the understanding I had with sunnah in my mind. And going back to free minds and reading all my privious post was just so embarrassing, I sounded like a stupid fundamentalist.

    I am still searching. Bislama.

    Praise be to God Lord of Universe.

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      Ikrame
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      salaam. nice to see you change Im glad for you. may Allah guide you always.
      peace

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        mmkhan
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        Are you a male or female?

        brickwall

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          Sunnah-hero
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          brickwall

          D

          Haha dude didn't you red the other members post who told me that student of Allah is a woman . I aways though she was a man ... Like I always thought huruf to be a man but just yesterday got the shocking news that huruf is a lady.

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            farida
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            that student of Allah is a woman . I aways though she was a man ...

            Salaam
            A simple question; does it matter and how would you your opinion about student of Allah change if you knew his/her sexual identity?

            Like I always thought huruf to be a man but just yesterday got the shocking news that huruf is a lady.

            Why were you shocked? I would appreciate a reflective reply to these questions as these are not feminist arguments but simply questions about forum members who you do not meet in person and whose opinions are free from preconceived notions.
            Thanks in advance

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              Student_of_Allah
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              Shalom Aleikhem,

              Thank you for your kinds words. I didnt mentioned Deedat so why do you say 'them'?

              Well, you can forget about that. I only mentioned Deedat because I wanted to and Zakir's works are largely based on Deedat's. Not original.

              I am not fan of Zakir, he lied and deceived me as well as thousand of others like me so why shall I be a fan of him or even respect him?

              You don't have to be his fan or respect him for what he does. But name calling is not justified. Name calling is juvenile. And on itself, its not an argument or a refutation against the person, but slander.

              Are you a male or female?

              brickwall

              D

              I am a student of Allah.

              I must thank you for helping me out of sunnism. You are someone I wont forget.

              Praise due to Lord, the cherisher and sustainer of the universe. The way I see it, my words had their effect because you actually bothered to read them and try to tackle it intellectually. I feel lucky because all I had to do is present you ayaats from the Qur'an and reason wisely. Thats it. The rest was entirely up to you and God.

              I hope you don't stop and you question everything and everyone and walk the path of the righteous.

              Peace
              ----------- Student of Allah

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                farida
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                Shalom Aleikhem,

                You don't have to be his fan or respect him for what he does. But name calling is not justified. Name calling is juvenile. And on itself, its not an argument or a refutation against the person, but slander.

                Peace
                ----------- Student of Allah

                Salaam
                May I support your statement with 49;11;
                O ye who believe! Let not some men among you laugh at others It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former) Nor let some women laugh at others It may be that the (latter are better than the (former) Nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, after he has believed And those who do not desist are doing wrong
                Peace

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                  mmkhan
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                  Haha dude didn't you red the other members post who told me that student of Allah is a woman . I aways though she was a man ... Like I always thought huruf to be a man but just yesterday got the shocking news that huruf is a lady.

                  Peace Wael,

                  Red I read that, but I personally don't like to dig anyone's identity specially when that person is trying to hide it.

                  Blue shocking news! rotfl

                  May Allah bless you and guide us to His true path pr
                  mmKhan

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                    Sunnah-hero
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                    Salaam
                    A simple question; does it matter and how would you your opinion about student of Allah change if you knew his/her sexual identity?Why were you shocked? I would appreciate a reflective reply to these questions as these are not feminist arguments but simply questions about forum members who you do not meet in person and whose opinions are free from preconceived notions.
                    Thanks in advance

                    Hehehehehehehehe relax dudes group

                    But let me admit, if I knew that student of Allah was a woman to begin with, I would never had listened to her . ignore

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                      Sunnah-hero
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                      Peace Wael,

                      Red I read that, but I personally don't like to dig anyone's identity specially when that person is trying to hide it.

                      Blue shocking news! rotfl

                      May Allah bless you and guide us to His true path pr
                      mmKhan

                      But hey dude .. why would anyone try to hide his/her identity confused Wallah ana mostaghreb confused

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                        farida
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                        But let me admit, if I knew that student of Allah was a woman to begin with, I would never had listened to her . ignore

                        Thank you and that is why it's sensible of student of Allah not to reveal his/her sexual identity.
                        Salaam

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                          Sunnah-hero
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                          Thank you and that is why it's sensible of student of Allah not to reveal his/her sexual identity.
                          Salaam

                          because she is afraid of people not taking her seriously if she is a woman? So she is embarrased of her gender ?

                          I am a man and I am proud of my gender I wont hide it just because someone is a male hater.

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                            mmkhan
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                            But hey dude .. why would anyone try to hide his/her identity confused Wallah ana mostaghreb confused

                            I don't know bro, you can ask the one who is hiding...

                            Red BTW, what is so wonder in it? And it is not good to swear about Allah, I know saying "Wallah" is not meant in that ways but still... D

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                              Sunnah-hero
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                              I don't know bro, you can ask the one who is hiding...

                              Red BTW, what is so wonder in it? And it is not good to swear about Allah, I know saying "Wallah" is not meant in that ways but still... D

                              yes I swear thats a bad habit we arabs have.. we say wallah in every second sentence.. ya3ni it just comes out without thinking..

                              we arabs use 2 words excessively

                              1. Wallah
                              2. Habibi O0

                              In Spain you dont call your friends, colleagues, the watchman or the taxi driver for Habibi .. but somehow we arabs do confused

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                                youssef4342
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                                Hehehehehehehehe relax dudes group

                                But let me admit, if I knew that student of Allah was a woman to begin with, I would never had listened to her . ignore

                                I Hope God has proved you otherwise. Women in my life have impacted me more-so than Men. From Mother to aunts to The many Female Teachers that i Admire. (Most of my teachers were Women...such caring creatures )

                                and yeah in the arabic circle, they do swear a lot by God "walahi" "walahi el3azeem" "wrbk"
                                we aren't supposed to swear by God in our every day speech.

                                Do Not Take God's Name in Vain
                                Do not subject GOD's name to your casual swearing, that you may appear righteous, pious, or to attain credibility among the people. GOD is Hearer, Knower.

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                                  hawk99
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                                  Peace,

                                  I've only been here a short while, but student of Allah has always been a women
                                  based on her picture.

                                  O0

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                                    mmkhan
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                                    I Hope God has proved you otherwise. Women in my life have impacted me more-so than Men. From Mother to aunts to The many Female Teachers that i Admire. (Most of my teachers were Women...such caring creatures

                                    and yeah in the arabic circle, they do swear a lot by God "walahi" "walahi el3azeem" "wrbk"
                                    we aren't supposed to swear by God in our every day speech.

                                    Do Not Take God's Name in Vain
                                    Do not subject GOD's name to your casual swearing, that you may appear righteous, pious, or to attain credibility among the people. GOD is Hearer, Knower.

                                    Peace,

                                    Thanks youssef from the aayat.

                                    May Allah rewards you with the best and guide us to His only path pr
                                    mmKhan

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                                      mmkhan
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                                      Peace,

                                      I've only been here a short while, but student of Allah has always been a women
                                      based on her picture.

                                      O0

                                      Peace Hawk99,

                                      Who are you to say "student of Allah has always been a women"?

                                      Recalled old game ;D

                                      May Allah bless you,
                                      mmKhan

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                                        hawk99
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                                        Peace Hawk99,

                                        Who are you to say "student of Allah has always been a women"?

                                        Recalled old game ;D

                                        May Allah bless you,
                                        mmKhan

                                        ) by the way, I am not finished with that game.

                                        May God grant us peace and happiness

                                        O0

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                                          mmkhan
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                                          ) by the way, I am not finished with that game.

                                          May God grant us peace and happiness

                                          O0

                                          Peace,

                                          That is a never ending game.

                                          May God grant us peace and happiness,
                                          mmKhan

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