I pray 5 times dag, its that wrong?
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Salaam Aaleyah,
I read your posts and understand you are searching how to practice the acts of worshiping ALLAAH-God. You remind me SO MUCH about myself some years/months ago! I was also searching how to pray, what to say, what are the meanings of what we say, what are the right things to say? And I confess I was also completely lost among all this information contained in the quraan ), in the Scriptures ), in the hadiyths ), in people's mind ( , in religious books ) and (
I have been raised in a secular country (France) and I didn't receive any "islamic formation" (no lessons of religion, no Arabic classes, nothing like that).
I was completely ignorant about the acts of worship and even today I am still asking questions, lot of questions about the prayers, their meanings, their number etc.I was also completely lost about religious matters like this one about "how many prayers must we pray a day and when?"
"should we really go to the mosk?". And I had from people some completely random answers like "no, just pray 4 times a day" or "no, just pray 1 time a day to begin" or "what?? you don't pray the prayer of the down?! you are an unbeliever and a hypocrite!" or "no, pray 5 times a day".Just to illustrate the fact that if you begin to listen to what the mass has to say about religious matters, they will surely make you have a big headache and you can easily give up, just because the mass does not understand hadyiths, neither the quraan neither the whole Scriptures (if they understood them, they wouldn't be divided in so many sects always snatching each others's faces for centuries and they continue today.) So I understood after reflection that the mass couldn't help me at all to get knowledge on religious matters everyone was giving me his own opinion/understanding, and I was not searching for personnal opinions/understandings. This is so irritating to ask a question and get contradictory answers.
So, what I did I stopped asking people about religious matters and I opened myself the Scriptures and I searched myself, independently of how much time it will take for me to find my answers, also I had many inspirations that I found correct after I found out the answer to my question.
At least, I learnt a lot myself and I could use freely my critical mind to put my understandings to the test without being polluted.I would like to search answers for our questions together if you wish. I feel you are very nice and I think we can understand each other and the questions through which we are going.
By the way, what are you studying and in what university?
Hope to read your reply soon )
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Salaam Aaleyah,
I read your posts and understand you are searching how to practice the acts of worshiping ALLAAH-God. You remind me SO MUCH about myself some years/months ago! I was also searching how to pray, what to say, what are the meanings of what we say, what are the right things to say? And I confess I was also completely lost among all this information contained in the quraan ), in the Scriptures ), in the hadiyths ), in people's mind ( , in religious books ) and (
I have been raised in a secular country (France) and I didn't receive any "islamic formation" (no lessons of religion, no Arabic classes, nothing like that).
I was completely ignorant about the acts of worship and even today I am still asking questions, lot of questions about the prayers, their meanings, their number etc.I was also completely lost about religious matters like this one about "how many prayers must we pray a day and when?"
"should we really go to the mosk?". And I had from people some completely random answers like "no, just pray 4 times a day" or "no, just pray 1 time a day to begin" or "what?? you don't pray the prayer of the down?! you are an unbeliever and a hypocrite!" or "no, pray 5 times a day".Just to illustrate the fact that if you begin to listen to what the mass has to say about religious matters, they will surely make you have a big headache and you can easily give up, just because the mass does not understand hadyiths, neither the quraan neither the whole Scriptures (if they understood them, they wouldn't be divided in so many sects always snatching each others's faces for centuries and they continue today.) So I understood after reflection that the mass couldn't help me at all to get knowledge on religious matters everyone was giving me his own opinion/understanding, and I was not searching for personnal opinions/understandings. This is so irritating to ask a question and get contradictory answers.
So, what I did I stopped asking people about religious matters and I opened myself the Scriptures and I searched myself, independently of how much time it will take for me to find my answers, also I had many inspirations that I found correct after I found out the answer to my question.
At least, I learnt a lot myself and I could use freely my critical mind to put my understandings to the test without being polluted.I would like to search answers for our questions together if you wish. I feel you are very nice and I think we can understand each other and the questions through which we are going.
By the way, what are you studying and in what university?
Hope to read your reply soon )
Salam!
Thank you for a long answer. Im so glad that you found it out to the end! I have also started to read and understand the quran on my own.
Yeah, that had been great! ) Thank you! I think you are very Nice too! I want to be sosial worker ) wich country are you from?
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Salaam sister,
It is okay, but you may want to reconsider whether to say "wa ashadu anna muhammadan rasul allah". It is a very sectarian saying and in my opinion it does not make much sense since there are many Messengers to say shahad for if you think this way. Muhammad did not start his own religion you know, he simply followed the same creed as Ibrahim.
And God knows that Muhammad is His Messenger already; His testimony is sufficient for everything as long as you testify there is only one God with ultimate control.
Besides, Muhammad got retired when his life ended. He enjoys his eternal vacation in Paradise now (God willing). So it is a bit silly to testify that someone not on the job anymore is a Messenger of God, do you not think so?
God bless you
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Salaam sister,
It is okay, but you may want to reconsider whether to say "wa ashadu anna muhammadan rasul allah". It is a very sectarian saying and in my opinion it does not make much sense since there are many Messengers to say shahad for if you think this way. Muhammad did not start his own religion you know, he simply followed the same creed as Ibrahim.
And God knows that Muhammad is His Messenger already; His testimony is sufficient for everything as long as you testify there is only one God with ultimate control.
Besides, Muhammad got retired when his life ended. He enjoys his eternal vacation in Paradise now (God willing). So it is a bit silly to testify that someone not on the job anymore is a Messenger of God, do you not think so?
God bless you
Salam!
Im agree With you. I should not say the shahada on that way. I will take the last part away.
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Salam!
I understand. Im agree With you, they forget the others prophetssalaam+
No Aaleyah! Muslims do not forget the other prophets (s+). They put prayers on them all the time. The people that you have met might not have done it. Even uneducated Muslims would be shocked at what you have just said. I know of no Muslim who forgot or forget the other prophets (s+) and I have taught thousands. How many Muslims who know the qur'aan have you personally spoken to who told you that they have forgotten the other prophets(s+).
Did you know that one cannot just say a prophet's name without adding a good supplication. If you would like to know more I will show you the dimensions of the prophets (s+) and their functions through time inshaa ALLAAH. I would like you to know everything so that you might not get entangled in another type of sectarianism posing as another right way. May ALLAAH guide all to his right way inshaa ALLAAH.
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Salam!
Thank you for a long answer. Im so glad that you found it out to the end! I have also started to read and understand the quran on my own.
Yeah, that had been great! Thank you! I think you are very Nice too! I want to be sosial worker wich country are you from?
In fact I also wanted to tell you a little about my little story of seeking islaam and seeking God. I am very happy that I found Him (at least I have this feeling that I found Him) or I am very close to come closer to Him insha'allaah and al-hamdulillaah.
I very wish you to find the truth on your own at the end.
We need social workers, good luck! I am from France, and you which country are you from? -
salaam+
No Aaleyah! Muslims do not forget the other prophets (s+). They put prayers on them all the time. The people that you have met might not have done it. Even uneducated Muslims would be shocked at what you have just said. I know of no Muslim who forgot or forget the other prophets (s+) and I have taught thousands. How many Muslims who know the qur'aan have you personally spoken to who told you that they have forgotten the other prophets(s+).
Did you know that one cannot just say a prophet's name without adding a good supplication. If you would like to know more I will show you the dimensions of the prophets (s+) and their functions through time inshaa ALLAAH. I would like you to know everything so that you might not get entangled in another type of sectarianism posing as another right way. May ALLAAH guide all to his right way inshaa ALLAAH.
Salam!
Im sorry. It was wrong to say that. But many muslims think muhammed (Peace be upon him) is more inportant than the others prophets.
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In fact I also wanted to tell you a little about my little story of seeking islaam and seeking God. I am very happy that I found Him (at least I have this feeling that I found Him) or I am very close to come closer to Him insha'allaah and al-hamdulillaah.
I very wish you to find the truth on your own at the end.
We need social workers, good luck! I am from France, and you which country are you from?I love to hear it Just tell me if you want! Alhamdollillah this is so good! France is a Nice country, i have been there 3 times. Im from Norway
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I understand
But I say also
allahumma salli ala Muhammad wallah ali Muhammad
cama salaita ala Ibrahim wallah ali Ibrahim
wa barik ala Muhammad wallah ali ala Muhammad
cama barakta ala Ibrahim wallah ali Ibrahim
fil alamina inntaka hamidon MajidIt this wrong? If this is wrong what shall i then say?
Red highlight above is from me.
1st Salaat MUST be for remembrance of ALLAAH, swt, ALONE. We must NOT commemorate anyone else in our salaats at all. See 2014 among other verses below.
Verily I, I am ALLAAH, there is no god but I, thus serve me and establish the salaat for My remembrance.
2nd After your second SUJDAH in your second RUK'AH, sit, and simply say "Ash-hadu-allaa-ilaaha-illALLAAHU, wahhdahu, laa shareeka lah". Then stand up for the third RUK'AH. If you're doing your last ruk'ah then right after the above SHAHAADAH, say your SALAAM as you always do and finish your salaat.
Peace,
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Salam!
Im sorry. It was wrong to say that. But many muslims think muhammed (Peace be upon him) is more inportant than the others prophets.
salaam+
Again no Aaleyah! In islaam every prophet had a community, people, or nation and each community, people or nation had to give their prophet its respect and honour. We are called the community or nation or people of muhammad (S+) and we give him that honour and respect.
I will show you many statements of the prophet (S+) where he stated how great other prophets(s+) were. The ignorance of the people concerning this has caused a great confusion in the matter. If you follow the qur'aan, then you belong to the community of muhammad(S+). Continue seeking the advice of all as much as you can. You shall surely find the right way inshaa ALLAAH. Ask yourself this important question on your journey of knowledge to seek the lord, "How do I know who are the best to give me advice?" May ALLAAH guide all to his right way inshaa ALLAAH -
Red highlight above is from me.
1st Salaat MUST be for remembrance of ALLAAH, swt, ALONE. We must NOT commemorate anyone else in our salaats at all. See 2014 among other verses below.
Verily I, I am ALLAAH, there is no god but I, thus serve me and establish the salaat for My remembrance.
2nd After your second SUJDAH in your second RUK'AH, sit, and simply say "Ash-hadu-allaa-ilaaha-illALLAAHU, wahhdahu, laa shareeka lah". Then stand up for the third RUK'AH. If you're doing your last ruk'ah then right after the above SHAHAADAH, say your SALAAM as you always do and finish your salaat.
Peace,
KhalilSo can my prayer be like this
Allahu Akbar.
Bismillah ir Rahman irahim alhamdollillah rabil alamin. Aramanir Rahim maliki javmidin. ijaka nabudu wa ijaka nastain. indinas sirital mustacim. siratal latina an amta alahhim. wa lad dalin amin.
Bismillah ir Rahman irahim qul hu lahu ahad allahu samad jam valid wa lam youlad. walam jakun lahu kufuwan ahad.
allahu Akbar
subana rabil admin
subana rabil admin
subana rabil admin
sami allahu liman rabana walaka hamd
allahu Akbar
subana rabil lala
subana rabil lala
subana rabil lala
rabbi g firli
rabbi g firli
subana rabil lala
subana rabil lala
subana rabil lalaAt taiyatu lillah was salawatu wat talibat. ashadu anla illaha illa la. alamina intake hamidum maijid.
as salamu alikum la
as salamu alikum la
it s that good?
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salaam+
Again no Aaleyah! In islaam every prophet had a community, people, or nation and each community, people or nation had to give their prophet its respect and honour. We are called the community or nation or people of muhammad (S+) and we give him that honour and respect.
I will show you many statements of the prophet (S+) where he stated how great other prophets(s+) were. The ignorance of the people concerning this has caused a great confusion in the matter. If you follow the qur'aan, then you belong to the community of muhammad(S+). Continue seeking the advice of all as much as you can. You shall surely find the right way inshaa ALLAAH. Ask yourself this important question on your journey of knowledge to seek the lord, "How do I know who are the best to give me advice?" May ALLAAH guide all to his right way inshaa ALLAAHIm sorry again. Im little New in islam.
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Im sorry again. Im little New in islam.
salaam+
Most of the things that you have said about Muslims are completely untrue. They would find it extremely insulting and then say that you are nothing but a distorter. That does not mean that everything that certain Muslims say are true. Just continue to seek knowledge! My suggestion to you is follow the islaam that you were originally taught and after a full study correct yourself as to what you understand is best for you. Do not enter islaam by the wrong opinion of other Muslims. That is my best advice to you. I very seldom have answered someone as much as I have tried to answer you. I fear that you will be thrown completely off track in another wilderness of confusion. May ALLAAH guide all inshaa ALLAAH.
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w/salaam,
Salam!
I pray 5 times day. And said "ashadu anla illaha illa la wa shadu an anna muhammada rasullulah in the prayer. It that wrong?
Firstly, please do no take anything that is said on this forum or anywhere as the truth, including my own posts. There are two things one must get right no matter what they say in their salat or how many times they do it
- sincerity
- try your best
With regard to your questions, please see Quran 2014 - Verily I, I am The God, there is no god but I, thus serve me and establish the salaat/bond for My remembrance.
Also you may find this article helpful http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/quran_on_salat.htm
An example of a study method
http//www.quran434.com/study-method.html -
salaam+
Most of the things that you have said about Muslims are completely untrue. They would find it extremely insulting and then say that you are nothing but a distorter. That does not mean that everything that certain Muslims say are true. Just continue to seek knowledge! My suggestion to you is follow the islaam that you were originally taught and after a full study correct yourself as to what you understand is best for you. Do not enter islaam by the wrong opinion of other Muslims. That is my best advice to you. I very seldom have answered someone as much as I have tried to answer you. I fear that you will be thrown completely off track in another wilderness of confusion. May ALLAAH guide all inshaa ALLAAH.
I dont care what you say. I know self what true islam is. Now Iam angry. I have read the quran now and i have found that Muhammed (Peace be upon him) is a big prophet. So i will continoue say the normaly prayer. In the Quran is say that People who dont think muhammed is big, dont think God is big.
I just follow the truth. I read the Quran self. And found the truth
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I dont care what you say. I know self what true islam is. Now Iam angry. I have read the quran now and i have found that Muhammed (Peace be upon him) is a big prophet. So i will continoue say the normaly prayer. In the Quran is say that People who dont think muhammed is big, dont think God is big.
I just follow the truth. I read the Quran self. And found the truth
Why are you angry? For what reason?
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Red highlight above is from me.
.2nd After your second SUJDAH in your second RUK'AH, sit, and simply say "Ash-hadu-allaa-ilaaha-illALLAAHU, wahhdahu, laa shareeka lah". Then stand up for the third RUK'AH. If you're doing your last ruk'ah then right after the above SHAHAADAH, say your SALAAM as you always do and finish your salaat.
Peace,
Khalilsalaam
I have seen many on this forum mocking the rites and rituals of umra/hajj. Such mockery does create doubt in one's mind, but I have kept my feeling neutral, as I was taken 'back stage', on Channel 4 a few years back. I saw millions of Muslims, despite being so undisciplined in every day life, were offering prayers in a unified ordered manner during hajj. This scene left the TV commentator gobsmacked; he kept saying "amazing scene"! Recently I was gobsmacked as I've come to understand the significance of all the rites of hajj and umra. I am sure that, once the world understand those signs, no doubts will remain who is rightly guided.
At the moment I am not fully sure about prayers; how many, how to do it right etc. so until I acquire a solid understanding I continue to pray traditional number of raka, as above, making sure to be focused on the qibla.
AS-SALAWAAT must be at least 4 to have a MIDDLE room for AS-SALAATULWUSTA, i.e. 2, as-salaatulwustaa, 2.
Therefore, the minimum number of daily sallaats are 2+1(middle prayer)+2=5You say above that SALAWAAT must be which shows you are not sure and then you go on to say Therefore, the minimum number of daily sallaats are ..... what sort of conclusion is that confused
Now I have 2 questions for you then right after the above SHAHAADAH, say your SALAAM
saying salaam to whom and why?
Secondly its a matter of decent etiquette to say thanks to those who do you a favour, or to send blessings to those who have done you great favour, so how does one do that?salaam
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So can my prayer be like this
Allahu Akbar.
Bismillah ir Rahman irahim alhamdollillah rabil alamin. Aramanir Rahim maliki javmidin. ijaka nabudu wa ijaka nastain. indinas sirital mustacim. siratal latina an amta alahhim. wa lad dalin amin.
Bismillah ir Rahman irahim qul hu lahu ahad allahu samad jam valid wa lam youlad. walam jakun lahu kufuwan ahad.
allahu Akbar
subana rabil admin
subana rabil admin
subana rabil admin
sami allahu liman rabana walaka hamd
allahu Akbar
subana rabil lala
subana rabil lala
subana rabil lala
rabbi g firli
rabbi g firli
subana rabil lala
subana rabil lala
subana rabil lalaAt taiyatu lillah was salawatu wat talibat. ashadu anla illaha illa la. alamina intake hamidum maijid.
as salamu alikum la
as salamu alikum la
it s that good?
Yes sister. As long as your salaat is for ALLAAH's REMEMBRANCE and for His COMMEMORATION alone, you are following The Qur'aan.
Peace,
Khalil
