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    Salam

    "Allah Alone"
    = Prostrate to Allah Alone
    = Sunni
    = Syiah
    = Khawarij
    = Muktazilah
    = Tasawuf
    = Sufism
    = Wahabi
    = Quranism etc.

    God/Self Alone
    = Hinduism
    = Buddhism
    = Christian
    = Judaism
    = Atheism (Self = God)
    = Other religions etc

    "Qur'an Alone" (Book, Guidance)
    = Prostrate to Allah + Sunnatullah (Khalif)
    = Objective of Khalif -> Manager (To understand Just and Balance - To understand Sunnatullah)
    = Manager -> To manage the Earth -> Negotiator, Mediator and Conciliator
    = To bring Balance
    -> Balance bring Justice
    -> Justice bring Harmony
    -> Harmony bring Security
    -> Security bring Happiness
    -> Happiness bring Love
    -> Love bring Satisfaction
    -> Satisfaction bring Alhamdulillah
    -> Alhamdulillah bring Fear (of losing Allah's attention/guidance etc ..
    as those person who are in deep love)
    -> Fear will motivate us to become better human being -> Khalif
    -> Khalif -> Reality
    -> Reality -> Allah
    = Din of Islam

    Peace

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      FIRE

      (Philosophical aspect - Fire is always in a standing position - Hablum Minallah)

      http//s13.postimg.org/f0sag5q85/solat.png

      Law and order within ourselves, not to others.

      We are giving unconditional freedom to others according to the Qur'an, promoting peace and harmony.

      We cannot change others, we can only change ourselves.

      Fire -> South -> Asmaullah -> Alif -> Standing position

      What should we stand for, within ourselves?

      1. Allah and the Qur'an (Hadith) as our guidance.

      2. The attributes in the 99 names of Allah.

      These qualities should be existed in ourselves.

      1 The Greatest Name Allah
      2 The All-Compassionate Ar-Rahman
      3 The All-Merciful Ar-Rahim
      4 The Absolute Ruler Al-Malik
      5 The Pure One Al-Quddus
      6 The Source of Peace As-Salam
      7 The Inspirer of Faith Al-Mu'min
      8 The Guardian Al-Muhaymin
      9 The Victorious Al-Aziz
      10 The Compeller Al-Jabbar
      11 The Greatest Al-Mutakabbir
      12 The Creator Al-Khaliq
      13 The Maker of Order Al-Bari'
      14 The Shaper of Beauty Al-Musawwir
      15 The Forgiving Al-Ghaffar
      16 The Subduer Al-Qahhar
      17 The Giver of All Al-Wahhab
      18 The Sustainer Ar-Razzaq
      19 The Opener Al-Fattah
      20 The Knower of All Al-Alim 21 The Constrictor Al-Qabid 22 The Reliever Al-Basit 23 The Abaser Al-Khafid 24 The Exalter Ar-Rafi 25 The Bestower of Honors Al-Mu'izz 26 The Humiliator Al-Mudhill 27 The Hearer of All As-Sami 28 The Seer of All Al-Basir 29 The Judge Al-Hakam 30 The Just Al-Adl
      31 The Subtle One Al-Latif
      32 The All-Aware Al-Khabir
      33 The Forbearing Al-Halim
      34 The Magnificent Al-Azim
      35 The Forgiver and Hider of Faults Al-Ghafur
      36 The Rewarder of Thankfulness Ash-Shakur
      37 The Highest Al-Ali
      38 The Greatest Al-Kabir
      39 The Preserver Al-Hafiz
      40 The Nourisher Al-Muqit
      41 The Accounter Al-Hasib
      42 The Mighty Al-Jalil
      43 The Generous Al-Karim
      44 The Watchful One Ar-Raqib
      45 The Responder to Prayer Al-Mujib
      46 The All-Comprehending Al-Wasi
      47 The Perfectly Wise Al-Hakim
      48 The Loving One Al-Wadud
      49 The Majestic One Al-Majid
      50 The Resurrector Al-Ba'ith
      51 The Witness Ash-Shahid
      52 The Truth Al-Haqq
      53 The Trustee Al-Wakil
      54 The Possessor of All Strength Al-Qawiyy
      55 The Forceful One Al-Matin
      56 The Governor Al-Waliyy
      57 The Praised One Al-Hamid
      58 The Appraiser Al-Muhsi
      59 The Originator Al-Mubdi'
      60 The Restorer Al-Mu'id
      61 The Giver of Life Al-Muhyi
      62 The Taker of Life Al-Mumit
      63 The Ever Living One Al-Hayy
      64 The Self-Existing One Al-Qayyum
      65 The Finder Al-Wajid
      66 The Glorious Al-Majid
      67 The One, the All Inclusive, The Indivisible Al-Wahid
      68 The Satisfier of All Needs As-Samad
      69 The All Powerful Al-Qadir
      70 The Creator of All Power Al-Muqtadir
      71 The Expediter Al-Muqaddim
      72 The Delayer Al-Mu'akhkhir
      73 The First Al-Awwal
      74 The Last Al-Akhir
      75 The Manifest One Az-Zahir
      76 The Hidden One Al-Batin
      77 The Protecting Friend Al-Wali
      78 The Supreme One Al-Muta'ali
      79 The Doer of Good Al-Barr
      80 The Guide to Repentance At-Tawwab
      81 The Avenger Al-Muntaqim
      82 The Forgiver Al-'Afuww
      83 The Clement Ar-Ra'uf
      84 The Owner of All Malik-al-Mulk
      85 The Lord of Majesty and Bounty Dhu-al-Jalal wa-al-Ikram
      86 The Equitable One Al-Muqsit
      87 The Gatherer Al-Jami'
      88 The Rich One Al-Ghani
      89 The Enricher Al-Mughni
      90 The Preventer of Harm Al-Mani'
      91 The Creator of The Harmful Ad-Darr
      92 The Creator of Good An-Nafi'
      93 The Light An-Nur
      94 The Guide Al-Hadi
      95 The Originator Al-Badi
      96 The Everlasting One Al-Baqi
      97 The Inheritor of All Al-Warith
      98 The Righteous Teacher Ar-Rashid
      99 The Patient One As-Sabur

      We cannot expect to enter Allah's heaven without these attributes.

      Living happily in heaven while our action is inconsistent with Allah's attributes, Allah wishes?

      Therefore, we should understand Allah's attributes, and mirror it in our daily action.

      How to understand?

      From reading the Qur'an, and it's priority according to the Allah's command in the Qur'an.

      These are the conducts that are "Just and Balance".

      Conducts that will qualify for the Allah's heaven, and conduct of the Prophets.

      Righteous conduct .. to understand and "balance" all these attributes within ourselves.

      Peace.

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        And not just in that scenario.Why single out iblis as prostrating to 'Allah Alone' when everything does? If you don't factor the willingness or lack thereof, then it's just selective for no good reason.

        Salam,

        Angels prostrate to Allah and Adam.

        Peace.

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          Salam savage_carrot and Ors.,

          Premise 1 Allah is "1" (<a href="http//quran.com/112">Sura 112</a&gt
          Premise 2 Creation is "0"
          Conclusion Therefore, nothing exists independently and outside/inside* of Allah.

          • There is no outside or inside. There is only Allah, since Allah is "1".

          #36 And to Allah belongs the east and the west
          So wherever you turn
          there is the Face of Allah

          Thus the issues ...

          What are the differences between Allah and His Creation?
          What's the line separating Allah and His Creation, from the Qur'an?

          The answer is in the Qur'an, and for those who are searching for truth and knows the reality; Comparison

          • La ilaha illallah.
          • Those who are "Idol Worshippers"/"God Alone"; ie. God =1, Creation = 1.1, 1.2, 1.3.. (division)
          • Definition of "god' (<a href="http//quran.com/45/23">4523</a&gt.
          • Whether Allah is God/god?
          • What is "matter"?

          Please correct me if I'm wrong; ie. that Allah is "1", and the Creation is "1".

          Peace.

          And when your Lord said to the angels
          "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority"
          They said,
          "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood
          while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?"
          Allah said
          "Indeed, I know that which you do not know"
          (<a href="http//quran.com/2/30">230</a&gt

          And when We said to the angels
          "Prostrate before Adam" <- "Allah or God Alone" vs "Qur'an Alone" (Allah's command)

          so they prostrated

          except for Iblees
          He refused
          and was arrogant
          and became of
          the disbelievers
          (<a href="http//quran.com/2/34">234</a&gt

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            Premise 1 Allah is "1" (<a href="http//quran.com/112">Sura 112</a&gt
            Premise 2 Creation is "0"
            Please correct me if I'm wrong; ie. that Allah is "1", and the Creation is "1".

            Peace.

            peace,

            Allah is "0" - cannot be seen / beyond knowledge

            creation is "1" - can be seen / within knowledge

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              peace,

              Allah is "0" - cannot be seen / beyond knowledge

              creation is "1" - can be seen / within knowledge

              Salam DrGm,

              So you are saying creation is "within knowledge"

              and Allah is not within our knowledge.

              Whatever within our knowledge is "1"

              Therefore, Allah is "0" .. and Creation is "1"

              The question...

              What is existence?

              How do you know you exist?

              Can you prove to me your existence?

              Peace.

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                Say He is Allah, the One! (<a href="http//quran.com/112/1">1121</a&gt

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                  Salam DrGm,

                  So you are saying creation is "within knowledge"

                  and Allah is not within our knowledge.

                  Therefore, Allah is "0" .. and Creation is "1"

                  The question...

                  How do you know you exist?

                  Peace.

                  peace,

                  • i believe.
                  • creation can be seen. so you ask How do you know you exist? this is within knowledge.
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                    peace,

                    • i believe.
                    • creation can be seen. so you ask How do you know you exist? this is within knowledge.

                    Salam DrGm,

                    What you have seen, is what have been interpreted by your "eyes", "senses" and "mind".

                    Internal vs. External, and this is not proof since your external image merely existed in your internal interpretation of self. It is only what you have seen (external) in your mind (internal). The whole world and creation is only existed in your mind. It is an image in your mind, the same way we are watching television.

                    Similarly, how do you know your "eyes" and "mind" exist?

                    Please prove to me that it is within your knowledge, that you exist, that you are "1".

                    Peace.

                    p/s more explanation, watch <a href="http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqnEGu8VF8Y">Perception - The reality beyond matter</a>

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                      peace,

                      when u ask a question to others / outside u then it is division. each division is one. meaning different, not same.

                      when u ask question to self. then it is one, existence

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                        peace,

                        when u ask a question to others / outside u then it is division. each division is one. meaning different, not same.

                        when u ask question to self. then it is one, existence

                        Salam DrGm,

                        Sorry, you have to explain further. I cannot fully understand your explanation.

                        My point is you are saying Allah is "0" and creations are "1" because it is within our knowledge that we're exist. Therefore, the issue for existence is "within our knowledge", and thus, I'm asking you to prove your existence, to prove what you've called a reality; ie. Creations are "1".

                        You then said it is because what we have seen, through our senses and mind. This is not proof, because the whole world and what we have seen is only an "image in our mind" (internal), what have been interpreted by our "senses and mind", whereas proof for existence is something that are "external from our mind".

                        Similarly, we can disregard everything and discuss on one single definition, ie. based on the definition that all matter is made up of tiny particles called atoms. Therefore, can you prove that it is within our knowledge that atomic particle or space exist? That it's existence not merely an image in our mind (internal), or interpretation of our brain (atoms) from the input of our senses.

                        Therefore, please provide proof that it is within your knowledge that your eyes and brain exist.

                        Peace.

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                          peace,

                          My point is you are saying Allah is "0" and creations are "1" because it is within our knowledge that we're exist. Therefore, the issue for existence is "within our knowledge", and thus, I'm asking you to prove your existence, to prove what you've called realities; ie. Creations are "1".

                          when i said 'within knowledge; you deduced as existence.

                          so, existence is which can be seen and is within knowledge. all knowledge / which can be seen by our senses is perishable by a time-frame. all which can be seen/figure is "1" that is perishable. because it is perishable, it is not true.

                          all creation starts from "0" (1967). when it is created it is "1" and then there are many ones except the One "0" that cannot be defined by your knowledge i.e., beyond knowledge.

                          present is reality; past is dead, knowledge is past. proving reality is no need; proving dead has no use. what is prove?

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                            And when your Lord said to the angels
                            "Indeed, I will make upon the earth
                            a successive authority" <-- Purpose of creation - Khalif (Manager)

                            They said
                            "Will You place upon it one
                            who causes corruption therein <-- Khalif - To manage the earth and in these kind of situations.
                            and sheds blood
                            while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?"

                            Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know" <-- Creation is "0"

                            And He taught Adam <-- Knowledge of the Unseen? (see below)
                            the names<-- It is unreasonable to interpret that Allah teaches Adam the name of animals,
                            all of them insects, mosquitoes etc. The angels already knew these names.
                            Then He showed them to the angels and said
                            "Inform Me of the names of these, if you are truthful"

                            They said
                            "Exalted are You
                            we have no knowledge
                            except what You have taught us
                            Indeed, it is You who is the Knowing, the Wise."

                            He said
                            "O Adam, inform them of their names"
                            And when he had informed them of their names, He said
                            "Did I not tell you
                            that I know the unseen <-- Knowledge of the Unseen? Allah's names & Sunnatullah?
                            of the heavens and the earth?
                            And I know what you reveal
                            and what you have concealed"

                            And when We said to the angels
                            "Prostrate before Adam" <-- Prostrate to Adam or his function/knowledge of just & balance?
                            so they prostrated His Objective. Functional definition? Obviously Adam is not god.
                            except for Iblees <-- Iblees claim he has better knowledge?
                            He refused
                            and was arrogant
                            and became of the disbelievers

                            And We said
                            "O Adam, dwell, you and your wife, in Paradise
                            and eat therefrom in abundance from wherever you will
                            But DO NOT approach this tree <-- The Sunnatullah?
                            lest you be among the wrongdoers"

                            But Satan caused them to slip out of it <-- Breach of Sunnatullah
                            and removed them from that
                            in which they had been

                            And We said <-- Consequence of breaching the Sunnatullah
                            "Go down,
                            as enemies to one another <-- Problem. Call for Khalif's function & knowledge.
                            and you will have upon the earth
                            a place of settlement
                            and provision for a time."

                            Then Adam received from his Lord
                            words <-- Improve self.
                            and He accepted his repentance
                            Indeed, it is He who is the Accepting of repentance
                            the Merciful.

                            We said
                            "Go down from it
                            all of you
                            And when guidance comes to you from Me <-- Solution. Follow the Prophet or his knowledge?
                            whoever follows Dayn - Debt - Duty - Compliance with Sunnatullah
                            My guidance <-- The Qur'an, Just and Balance
                            there will be no fear concerning them
                            nor will they grieve

                            And those who disbelieve
                            and deny Our signs <-- Obedience or disobedience? "DO NOT" prohibition
                            those will be companions of the Fire
                            they will abide therein eternally."

                            (<a href="http//quran.com/2/30-39">230-39</a&gt

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                              peace,
                              when i said 'within knowledge; you deduced as existence.

                              so, existence is which can be seen and is within knowledge. all knowledge / which can be seen by our senses is perishable by a time-frame. all which can be seen/figure is "1" that is perishable. because it is perishable, it is not true.

                              all creation starts from "0" (1967). when it is created it is "1" and then there are many ones except the One "0" that cannot be defined by your knowledge i.e., beyond knowledge.

                              present is reality; past is dead, knowledge is past. proving reality is no need; proving dead has no use. what is prove?

                              Salam DrGm,

                              We can never find out the answer
                              unless you can back up your argument by proving your existence
                              and even to the level of atomic particles

                              Something that is not merely existed from the "image and interpretation of our mind".
                              (lesson from dreaming during our sleep - it is not reality)

                              If you cannot prove, then that's what Allah said

                              "I know that which you do not know"

                              So human must stop making decisions in the name of Allah (<a href="http//quran.com/10/39">1039</a&gt

                              And they need to follow Allah's command, the guidance...

                              Even if it is an order to prostrate to any other than Allah.

                              Only then will Allah guide us to reality .. the truth on the issue,

                              as what you've said, Allah is "0", we are "1" after being created, and there are many ones.

                              On my part, Allah is "1", we are "0" because we cannot prove our own existence or matter..

                              much or less equal to our dreams .. and in search for the reality .. according to Allah's guidance (<a href="http//quran.com/2/18">218</a&gt.

                              Peace.

                              Say "He is Allah, One. (<a href="http//quran.com/112/1">1121</a&gt

                              He begets not, nor was He begotten. (<a href="http//quran.com/112/3">1123</a&gt

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                                Salam DrGm,

                                We can never find out the answer
                                unless you can back up your argument by proving your existence
                                and even to the level of atomic particles

                                peace,

                                i have no arguments. you said creation is "0". for me it is from "0". meaning -which we do not know is with Allah. unless HE reveals /creates we will not know it. that which is known is knowledge. purpose of this knowledge is to use /benefit good and get away/ avoid from bad.

                                when i see a object, i will say there is "1", now i need knowledge to use it. this knowledge has to be taught from Allah.

                                when i not see then i will say there is nothing "0". to me from nothing He creates and this creation is 1.

                                said this, i really don't know what/why you want me to prove my existence. what way that will help you. is that anyway going to improve my understanding of what you say. in that case answer from your perspective, i will try to understand.

                                i really have no arguments. arguments will not yield. unless Allah teach us.

                                peace.

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                                  Salam DrGm,

                                  Even if it is an order to prostrate to any other than Allah.

                                  peace,

                                  Allah's words are taken as orders only by believers. Allah orders to obey Him and the message of His prophets/messengers. again the message is Allah's words. then prostrating is only to Allah.

                                  peace

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                                    Salam DrGm,

                                    as what you've said, Allah is "0", we are "1" after being created, and there are many ones.

                                    On my part, Allah is "1", we are "0" because we cannot prove our own existence or matter..

                                    much or less equal to our dreams ..

                                    peace,

                                    i did not mean there is many Allah or Allah is nothing.

                                    i mean Allah creates from "0". '0' meant by me as beyond knowledge.

                                    proving existence to other human is not there/ necessary, proving as models in the straight-path of Allah is there/necessary.

                                    peace.

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                                      peace,

                                      Allah's words are taken as orders only by believers. Allah orders to obey Him and the message of His prophets/messengers. again the message is Allah's words. then prostrating is only to Allah.

                                      peace

                                      And when We said to the angels
                                      "Prostrate before Adam" <-- Prostrate to Adam or his function/knowledge of just & balance?
                                      so they prostrated His Objective. Functional definition? Obviously Adam is not god.
                                      except for Iblees <-- Iblees claim he has better knowledge?
                                      He refused
                                      and was arrogant
                                      and became of the disbelievers

                                      Salam DrGm,

                                      When Allah ordered the angels to prostrate to Adam

                                      Allah does not mean to admire his physical attributes

                                      but the knowledge he acquired from Allah, the "Knowledge of the Unseen"

                                      I believe it is the knowledge of "Just and Balance"

                                      The Sunnatullah and Allah's names

                                      It is self evident in the universe and all living creatures, including the Qur'an

                                      Thus "Just and Balance" has no religion, it is our way of life..

                                      It is "Islam"

                                      It is also the main element of every religion, and to a certain extent

                                      • Buddha is promoting just and balance (water)
                                      • Christian is promoting just and balance (air)
                                      • Hindu is promoting just and balance (fire)
                                      • Sunni religion is promoting just and balance (fire)
                                      • Shia religion is promoting just and balance (fire)
                                      • Judaism is promoting just and balance (earth)
                                      • Atheism is promoting just and balance (water)
                                      • Everyone and every religion is promoting just and balance

                                      Nonetheless, what went wrong?

                                      Why these religions disregarding the element of "just and balance" in other religion?

                                      It is because of "religion" .. the "God Alone" (Allah Alone) concept ... this is Religion.

                                      Striving what is "just and balance" to their personal religion, and not as a whole..

                                      Every religion and sects are striving for what is right and wrong on each separate element

                                      This what we should be doing.

                                      http//s16.postimg.org/805wdizsj/Islam.png

                                      However, this is what we are doing today.

                                      Standing up on "what is right or wrong on each separate elements".

                                      Fire Based Religion Hinduism, Sunni Islam, Shia Islam, Khawarij Islam etc.

                                      Air Based Religion Christianity, Da'wah Islam, Political Islam etc.

                                      Water Based Religion Buddhism, Atheism, Sufi Islam, Tasawwuf, Educational Islam etc.

                                      Earth Based Religion Judaism, Quranism Islam, Wahabi Islam etc.

                                      Therefore, can we say any of the above religions is "Din of Islam"?

                                      Nope, it is a religion.

                                      And whoever seeks a "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam
                                      it will NEVER be accepted of him
                                      and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers
                                      (385)

                                      Based on the above, all of them are right.. but only to certain extent.

                                      Peace.

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                                        Salaam,

                                        What someone meant was that by using an allegory with computer language is that God and His domain is set in an .ini file to Visible = 0, while the physical world as we see it is Visible = 1, as we perceive it if this would be a game world.

                                        It was probably a hypothetical statement and it did not regard whether what we see is just from our imagination or not. No matter what, we see what we see and it is visible. God and His angels/controllers are not normally visible however and thus they would have no visible configuration in this game plot.

                                        God bless you

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                                          peace,

                                          i have no arguments. you said creation is "0". for me it is from "0". meaning -which we do not know is with Allah. unless HE reveals /creates we will not know it. that which is known is knowledge. purpose of this knowledge is to use /benefit good and get away/ avoid from bad.

                                          when i see a object, i will say there is "1", now i need knowledge to use it. this knowledge has to be taught from Allah.

                                          when i not see then i will say there is nothing "0". to me from nothing He creates and this creation is 1.

                                          said this, i really don't know what/why you want me to prove my existence. what way that will help you. is that anyway going to improve my understanding of what you say. in that case answer from your perspective, i will try to understand.

                                          i really have no arguments. arguments will not yield. unless Allah teach us.

                                          peace.

                                          peace,

                                          i did not mean there is many Allah or Allah is nothing.

                                          i mean Allah creates from "0". '0' meant by me as beyond knowledge.

                                          proving existence to other human is not there/ necessary, proving as models in the straight-path of Allah is there/necessary.

                                          peace.

                                          Salam DrGm,

                                          The argument I'm referring to is from the point of "critical thinking", ie. it is your conclusion, supported by logical reason and evidence.

                                          Secondly, I believe you are making a conclusion of "Allah = 0" and "Creation = 1" from the perspective of "our knowledge" to the existence of Allah. When we were born, we have no knowledge of Allah's existence. Therefore, Allah is "0" in ourselves, and we are "1". When we grow up, we start to realize Allah's existence, and thus Allah is "1" and we are becoming "0". Thus, you are making a conclusion from the perspective of "our knowledge", not on reality.

                                          On the other hand, I'm making a conclusion based on reality. The whole truth, and not on individual's knowledge. What we (individual) may see, or may not see does not represent the whole truth, it is not the reality.

                                          Peace.

                                          Some example or analogy

                                          Sun = 1
                                          Sunlight = 0

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