Non performers of As-Salaat are not true believers
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peace Mazhar,
These comments are with regard to this salat article of yours.
You discuss 2238 and assume there are two salat each side of al salat al wusta - why two? why not 3 each side etc
In 2238 why mention one of the five salat separately according to you, when it is already covered by the plural salawat?
According to you, which salat can be done on the move (2239) "al salat al wusta" or the other "salawat"? And what is your evidence for this.
what is your evidence for "zulaf" meaning "early"?
You repeatedly cite "salat al fajr" and "salat al 3sha" as reference points but you have no reference for the other alleged 3 salat hence refer to them as "this al salat" or "al salat for the point in time of...".etc etc - why does Quran not clarify the reference terms for the alleged other 3 in your view? If it does give the terms, please provide them.
When discussing "salat al fajr" with me you said this is not a name of a "salat" but in your article you state "The other two prescribed al salat are also NAMED by the point in time" (then you reference 245
You seemingly contradict yourself when you say "The remaining two timings for al salat are at two visual transition EDGES of the day which are in the LATER day..." - ask anyone about what the two edges of daytime are and they will never discuss them being later in the day.
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You seemingly have no break in-between some salat.Some of your 5 salat have specific times AND time-ranges whilst others do not - why?
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Wakas; Salamun alaika,
These comments are with regard to this salat article of yours.
You discuss 2238 and assume there are two salat each side of al salat al wusta - why two? why not 3 each side etc
In 2238 why mention one of the five salat separately according to you, when it is already covered by the plural salawat?
Root " ". For convenience, an entry from Lane's Lexicon is reproduced hereunder
properly, the part of which several lateral, or outer, portions are equal; as, for instance, the middle finger but also meaning the part which is surrounded, or enclosed, on its several sides, although unequally (Msb) or the part that is between the two sides or extremities of a thing; (M, IB, Mgh, K as, for instance, the centre of a circle]
Yes, two, three, four, five can be on each side of same object- here Salaat.
Since it is a definite noun-referring to the specific Salaat which is in the centre of equivalent number of specific As-sallat on its laterals.
Specific number of As-Salaat is with reference to five timings-schedule which is mentioned in the article thereunder by quoting relevant Ayahs. Thereby the Al-Wusta has two each on its laterals.
Do you think it is abnormality in the manner of placing emphasis by repeating with reference to a unit of whole in a compound sentence?
According to you, which salat can be done on the move (2239) "al salat al wusta" or the other "salawat"? And what is your evidence for this.
After command, exception for exigencies of situations are mentioned. For As-Salat one has to stand in humble posture; when it is not adviseable to stop, permission is granted not to stand and verbally perform the As-Salat whichever of schedules timings it is.
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what is your evidence for "zulaf" meaning "early"?
It is already explained in the Article.
http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/09.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Sura%20011/12.%20Zulfan%20Ze%20Laam%20Fa/1.gif It is an Indefinite; broken plural; feminine noun in accusative case. The basic perception is to approach or draw near. These moments-duration is then described by its boundaries in the Ayah quoted therein-in this part
The timings are set with reference to current local solar ephemeris of people.
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Whether or not Prophet Idris(PBUH) comes before Prophet Ibrahim(PBUH) in the timeline?
Salaam!
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Later in timeline after Ibrahim alaihissalam.
Salaam to all,
Who the other members are there to second the view point of brother Mazhar that Propohet Idris(PBUH) was later in timeline after Prophet Ibrahim(PBUH). Perhaps I have a misconception that Prophet Idris(PBUH) was even before Prophet Nuh(PBUH).
Salaam,
Mehjabeen -
Salaam,
Is it not Idris (traditional) Muslims believe to be alive for a very long term? And that he was the anonymous person who traveled with Moses and who tells Moses he could not have patience with him.
God bless you
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"O Mary, you shall submit to your Lord, and prostrate and bow down with those who bow down."
Peace,
Is 3/43 a physical prostration or prostration of another kind?
"Sahih International And when We designated for Abraham the site of the House, "Do not
associate anything with Me and purify My House for those who perform Tawaf and those
who stand and those who bow and prostrate.." 2226-27Are the directives of 22/26-27 physically to be carried out or are they metaphors?
God bless
peace
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"O Mary, you shall submit to your Lord, and prostrate and bow down with those who bow down."
Peace,
Is 3/43 a physical prostration or prostration of another kind?
"Sahih International And when We designated for Abraham the site of the House, "Do not
associate anything with Me and purify My House for those who perform Tawaf and those
who stand and those who bow and prostrate.." 2226-27Are the directives of 22/26-27 physically to be carried out or are they metaphors?
God bless
peace
Please read, find the meanings and feed your comments
Time Bound Protocol of Servitude and Allegiance The Key of the door of success
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Peace Mazhar,
No offense intended, but your links are exhaustive, could you please answer the questions
with simple yes/no with explanation however short or long.example
Run = verb = an action
to go quickly by moving the legs more rapidly than at a walk and in such a manner
that for an instant in each step all or both feet are off the ground.Prostration = SJD = verb= an action 1. the act of prostrating. (physical)
2. the state of being prostrated.
3. obeisance (mental)
4. humbly submissiveGod bless
peace
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Since when brother Mazhar confronted me to the Verse of Al-Quran (7442-43) wherein it is mentioned that 'the hell dweller would be admitting and lamenting that they were not among the observant of Salat', I am very much worried and perturbed too.
I am worried because what will happen to me? How I could include myself among the observant of Salat? I mean, entire world order seems to be confused on this issue. There is a great deal of divergence ? (i) the Sunni way (ii) Shiia way (iii) Ahle-hadith way (iv) Rashadan way (v) Mazharan way ? most confusing ?Time bound protocol of servitude and allegiance? (vi) etc. etc.
I am perturbed because what will happen to the Prophets and Messengers prior to Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) and their followers? As per brother Mazhar?s understanding, all the Prophets and Messengers prior to Prophet Ibrahim(PBUH) were obviously not among the observant of Salat.
Salaam!
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Since when brother Mazhar confronted me to the Verse of Al-Quran (7442-43) wherein it is mentioned that 'the hell dweller would be admitting and lamenting that they were not among the observant of Salat', I am very much worried and perturbed too.
I am worried because what will happen to me? How I could include myself among the observant of Salat? I mean, entire world order seems to be confused on this issue. There is a great deal of divergence ? (i) the Sunni way (ii) Shiia way (iii) Ahle-hadith way (iv) Rashadan way (v) Mazharan way ? most confusing ?Time bound protocol of servitude and allegiance? (vi) etc. etc.
I am perturbed because what will happen to the Prophets and Messengers prior to Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) and their followers? As per brother Mazhar?s understanding, all the Prophets and Messengers prior to Prophet Ibrahim(PBUH) were obviously not among the observant of Salat.
Salaam!
Law takes effect from the date it is enforced by the King-Sovereign-the Lord and it is prospective not retrospective.
Here on this forum we have even scholars who have their own translations. Can anyone point out mention of Salaat in nations and periods before Ibrahim alahissalam?
Whenever one want to be sure about a point, he should peep in the Hell-Prison otherwise remain happy for landing therein.
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Law takes effect from the date it is enforced by the King-Sovereign-the Lord and it is prospective not retrospective.
Here on this forum we have even scholars who have their own translations. Can anyone point out mention of Salaat in nations and periods before Ibrahim alahissalam?
Whenever one want to be sure about a point, he should peep in the Hell-Prison otherwise remain happy for landing therein.
Which verse/s are you using for dating the 'enforcing of salat'?
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Mazharan way ? most confusing ?Time bound protocol of servitude and allegiance?
Salamun alaika,
That is the translation or description of Arabic term As-Salat as is explained in various Ayahs of Qur'aan.
Let us understand its break-up
Allah the Exalted is the Lord of Universes. We accept ourselves as His subjects ........this leads to mutual relationship of Lord and Subject-servant. We have to show servitude and allegiance to Him the Exalted.
Protocol etiquette of formal occasions/code of conduct the rules or conventions of correct behavior on official or ceremonial occasions.
Protocol involves both speech and gestures.
The occasion is a Subject presenting himself in the presence of his Lord.
Time Bound The subjects are not allowed to call upon and present their selves to the Lord at their own will and choice of time. The Lord has prescribed the timings when subjects should be in His the Exalted presence.
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Salaam,
7442 ?What has caused you to be in the scorching heat??
7443 They said ?We were not as those who made the contact prayer.?7530 To your Lord on that Day he will be driven.
7531 For he did not believe nor make the contact.I know some of us are still confused about how many times to perform salat per day.
Just put your trust in God to clarify it to us pr
Regards,
Yuliana -
Salaam,
Who are referred to in 7442-43 and 7530-31. The insistence of brother Mazhar about introduction of Salat from the time of Prophet Ibrahim(PBUH) is self proclaiming and without any tangible proof. He is wishfully ignoring 1958-59 which indicates that all the prophets from the seed Bani Adam, Bani Nooh, Bahi Ibrahim and finally Prophet Ahmad (PBUH) who crowned the world were observant of Salat enjoined Allah(swt). Given the fact that (i) Only approved Deen in the sight of Allah(swt) is Islam for all times. (ii) Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) followed the footsteps of Prophet Nuh (iii) The same deen which was enjoined upon Prophet Nuh(PBUH) was re-directed to Porphet Ibrahim, Moosa, Eissa and finally Prophet Ahmad (Peace be upon them all) (iv) Salat is meant for commemoration of Allah(swt), how could one be so adamant claiming that Salat was introduced from Prophet Ibrahim(PBUH) and the Prophets were non-observant of the good deeds viz. Salat, Zakat, etc.?
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Salaam,
Who are referred to in 7442-43 and 7530-31. The insistence of brother Mazhar about introduction of Salat from the time of Prophet Ibrahim(PBUH) is self proclaiming and without any tangible proof. He is wishfully ignoring 1958-59 which indicates that all the prophets from the seed Bani Adam, Bani Nooh, Bahi Ibrahim and finally Prophet Ahmad (PBUH) who crowned the world were observant of Salat enjoined Allah(swt). Given the fact that (i) Only approved Deen in the sight of Allah(swt) is Islam for all times. (ii) Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) followed the footsteps of Prophet Nuh (iii) The same deen which was enjoined upon Prophet Nuh(PBUH) was re-directed to Porphet Ibrahim, Moosa, Eissa and finally Prophet Ahmad (Peace be upon them all) (iv) Salat is meant for commemoration of Allah(swt), how could one be so adamant claiming that Salat was introduced from Prophet Ibrahim(PBUH) and the Prophets were non-observant of the good deeds viz. Salat, Zakat, etc.?
Salam,
It is a lecture without support.
1958-59 which indicates that all the prophets
. It is erronous perception. Start reading from 1901 and see the names; they are after Ibrahim alahissalam and not those who were before him.Question is not of Islam; the question is about the institution of Salat. Anything that is ordained by Allah, the Messenger asks his people to comply. Show me one instance where the earlier Messengers ever asked their nation to perform salat. If not, then negative insistence is only for the sake of sticking to an erronous thought; nothing else.
Qiblata is fundamental to Salat. House of Allah was constructed by Ibrahim alahissalam and on its completion Salat was enjoined. Thereat, he had prayed to be declared as he who institutionalized the Salat. Can you negate these facts highlighted in Qur'aan?
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Salaam,
7442 ?What has caused you to be in the scorching heat??
7443 They said ?We were not as those who made the contact prayer.?7530 To your Lord on that Day he will be driven.
7531 For he did not believe nor make the contact.I know some of us are still confused about how many times to perform salat per day.
Just put your trust in God to clarify it to us pr
Regards,
YulianaRed highlight above is from me.
ALLAAH, swt, has ordained the minimum number of SALAATS per day to be five. Please see the link below.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605668.msg334273#msg334273
Peace,
Khalil
