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    muslims
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    Why Allah guides the prostitute to the straight path?

    Why Allah guides the thief to the straight path?

    Why Allah lead astray the Ulemas?

    What really matters to Allah?

    What is Allah like to see from us?

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      Age Concept of Right/Wrong

      70 Being absolutely right for the level of 70 years old person "
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      60 Being absolutely right for the level of 60 years old person "
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      50 Being absolutely right for the level of 50 years old person "
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      40 Being absolutely right for the level of 40 years old person "
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      30 Being absolutely right for the level of 30 years old person "
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      20 Being absolutely right for the level of 20 years old person "
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      10 Being absolutely right for the level of 10 years old person "
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      1 Being absolutely right for the level of 1 year old baby <-- limited by our senses, abilities etc.

      Similarly, this can be applied to certain life conditions, psychological backgrounds, personal traits, ethnic, educational backgrounds, and etc. These are all variables, and the overall consequences are the Sunnatullah, Absolute Justice.

      Therefore, does it really matter of being right or wrong?

      Does the above pattern of being right or wrong really matters to Allah?

      What about those who live 1,000 years ago, where there is no proper educational system, or where people unable to read the Qur'an? Can they survive and become a real Muslim? Can we apply the same concept of right or wrong?

      What is the actual standard to become a Muslim?

      there is no target for becoming a Muslim.

      http//s14.postimg.org/tp4not4vl/glasses.png

      There are no fixed rules, and it can be the hardest things to achieve, or it can be the simplest things to achieve; which totally depends on the "Level of Shirk" within ourselves.

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        muslims
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        For example, how can anyone expect to be free from this Shirk?

        If we based on the concept of right or wrong, then no one would ever survive (without the help of Allah)...

        And set forth to them a parable of two men
        for one of them We made two gardens of grape vines
        and We surrounded them both with palms
        and in the midst of them We made cornfields

        Both these gardens yielded their fruits
        and failed not aught thereof
        and We caused a river to gush forth in their midst

        And he possessed much wealth

        so he said to his companion, while he disputed with him

        I have greater wealth than you, and am mightier in followers <- Shirk? This is what most people
        https//www.google.com/help/hc/images/sites_icon_arrow_up_small.gif would say. Greater wealth,
        And he entered his garden https//www.google.com/help/hc/images/sites_icon_arrow_up_small.gif knowledge, skills, family etc.
        while he was unjust to himself, He said <- On the issue of justly balanced within ourselves.
        I do not think that this will ever perish <- This is also what most people would say.
        And I do not think the hour will come i.e. not come within the next few hours, days, years etc.
        and even if I am returned to my Lord <- Same, and most people believe they will be in Paradise.
        I will most certainly find a returning place better than this Proof that he believe in Allah and the
        Hour will come, but not in his lifetime.
        His companion said to him while disputing with him

        Do you disbelieve in Him <- Shirk?
        Who created you from dust
        then from a small seed
        then He made you a perfect man?

        But as for me
        He, Allah, is my Lord
        and I do not associate anyone with my Lord <- Who is "anyone" in this story context? Self?

        (1832-4

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          muslims
          wrote on last edited by
          #299

          And you become three kinds

          Then the companions of the right <- just
          what are the companions of the right?

          And the companions of the left <- unjust
          what are the companions of the left?

          And the forerunners, the forerunners <- justly balanced (Sunnatullah -> just + unjust)
          Those are the ones brought near
          In the Gardens of Pleasure

          (567-12)

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            muslims
            wrote on last edited by
            #300

            In the name of Allah

            the Beneficent
            the Merciful

            All praise <- What for?
            is due to Allah <- Deen, dayn, debt, due

            the Lord of the Worlds <- Does human beings really witness this? How many?

            The Beneficent
            the Merciful

            Master of the Day of Judgment

            Thee do we serve <- serve comes first (obedience), only then eligible for help
            and Thee do we beseech for help

            Keep us <- Is there really a free will? Or influence on our free will?
            on the right path <- Who hold the key to the right path?
            The path of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed favors
            Not (the path) of those upon whom Thy wrath is brought down
            nor of those who go astray

            (11-7)

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              muslims
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              #301

              Level of
              Under-
              Level of standing Level of Impact of Level of
              Shirk the Qur'an Obedience Allah's tests Believers
              (Faith)


              100% 0% 0% -> Muslim -> -100 <- Faith equal to "Love Monkey"=No faith!

              http//s22.postimg.org/zaua8dhr1/monkey.png

              Proof that there is no faith... not yet.

              The test.

              Example on the standard required to attain righteousness

              By no means shall you attain to righteousness
              until you spend (benevolently)
              out of what you love
              and whatever thing you spend
              Allah surely knows it
              (392)

              And they ask you as to what they should spend (sadaqah)
              Say What you can spare
              Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications
              that you may ponder
              (2219)

              Who can sadaqa all his property for Allah?

              Try practicing this for 7 continuous years without failed.

              Do you feel worry?

              Hard to accept?

              If yes, then there is no faith.

              It is quite simple.

              The believers
              are only <- exclusionary principle and the definition of believers
              the ones who have believed in Allah and His Messenger
              and then doubt not
              but strive with their properties
              and their lives
              in the cause of Allah
              It is those who are the truthful.
              (4915)

              Unquestionably, the allies of Allah
              there will be no fear concerning them
              nor will they grieve
              (1062-64)

              Do the people think
              that they will be left to say,
              "We believe"
              and they will not be tried?

              There are no fixed rules, and it can be the hardest things to achieve, or it can be the simplest things to achieve; which totally depends on the "Level of Shirk" within ourselves.

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                muslims
                wrote on last edited by
                #302

                there is no target for becoming a Muslim.

                What really matters to Allah?

                What is Allah like to see from us?

                The struggling and going is the goal, and it doesn't matter where we start (or end), as long as we start somewhere and keep on improving our life and strengthening our faith.

                The actual requirement in the Qur'an is for human beings to learn, understand, and reform continuously for the better (istiqamah - changes from within ourselves comes first - roots of a tree).

                It is the process of understanding that matter, not the end results (comparison - how can one expect to be free from shirk within a short period of time? Impossible!). Therefore it doesn't matter or less relevant to Islam if peoples wear Hijab or not, since it is not the real issue in Islam. In fact, it is the most irrelevant issue to the society (it is personal issue - 5105).

                Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah
                are the deaf and dumb
                who do not use reason <- The importance of reason, and not becoming a robot (blind follower)
                (822) (trees without roots - how long can it hold straight on the ground?)

                And before it was the scripture of Moses
                to lead and as a mercy

                And this is a confirming Book
                in an Arabic tongue
                to warn those who have wronged
                and as good tidings to the doers of good <- Is this the reality of our life? Is it true? If not, why?
                Indeed, those who have said
                "Our Lord is Allah"
                and then remained on a right course
                there will be no fear concerning them
                nor will they grieve
                (4612-13)

                Do you not see
                that ships sail through the sea
                by the favor of Allah
                that He may show you of His signs?
                Indeed in that are signs
                for everyone patient <- the standard or main requirements, patient and grateful
                and grateful <- Alhamdu
                (3131)

                Indeed, Allah is with those
                who fear Him
                and those who are doers of good
                (16128)

                Those who believe
                and do righteous good deeds

                there is no sin on them
                for what they ate

                if they fear Allah
                and believe
                and do righteous good deeds

                and again
                fear Allah
                and believe

                and once again
                fear Allah
                and do good deeds

                with Ihsan (perfection)

                And Allah loves the good-doers
                (593)

                Except for those who repent
                correct themselves
                hold fast to Allah
                and are sincere in their deen for Allah <- requires understanding
                for those will be with the believers
                And Allah is going to give the believers a great reward
                (4146)

                There is not upon the weak
                or upon the ill
                or upon those who do not find anything to spend any discomfort
                when they are sincere
                to Allah and His Messenger
                There is not upon the doers of good any cause
                And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful
                (991)

                And cause not corruption upon the earth
                after its reformation
                And invoke Him in fear and aspiration
                Indeed, the mercy of Allah
                is near to the doers of good
                (756)

                Indeed, Allah does not allow to be lost the reward
                of the doers of good
                (9120)

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                  muslims
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                  #303

                  +---- Controlled by Allah ----+
                  | |
                  | |
                  +------- Favorite topics ------+
                  | for religious people |
                  | |
                  Irrelevant Irrelevant
                  to human to human
                  (war zone) (war zone)
                  | |
                  | |
                  | |
                  | Freewill |
                  | (Qur'an) |
                  | (Sunnatullah) |
                  | (Justly Balanced) |
                  | | |
                  | | |
                  | Level of |
                  | Alhamdu |
                  | | |
                  | | |
                  Wrong |<----- 100% ----->| Right
                  Evil | Good
                  Unlucky 90% Lucky
                  Ugly | Pretty
                  Poor 80% Rich
                  Etc. | Etc.
                  ^ 70% ^
                  | | |
                  | 60% |
                  | | |
                  | 50% |
                  | | |
                  | 40% |
                  | | |
                  | 30% |
                  | | |
                  | 20% |
                  | | |
                  | 10% |
                  | | |
                  | 0% |
                  | ^ |
                  | | |
                  | | |
                  | (3131) |
                  | patient (doers of good) |
                  +------------- Grateful -------------+
                  | Alhamdu |
                  | ^ |
                  Takes ^ Takes
                  time | time
                  ^ | ^
                  | | |
                  | Progressive |
                  | | |

                  • <------- Understanding ------>+
                    |
                    |
                    Depends on the Level of Shirk
                    |
                    Those with "one heart" (no heart) will never commit Shirk
                    Shirk or Faith requires "the right elements of" Iman and Amal to be presence
                    Therefore
                    Condition = Iman + Amal = Not Shirk/Faith
                    Similarly = Iman + Amal = Not Shirk/Faith
                    Iman + Amal = Shirk/Faith
                    |
                    And rely on Allah
                    and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.
                    Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior.
                    (333-4)

                  The struggling and going is the goal, and it doesn't matter where we start (or end), as long as we start somewhere and keep on improving our life and strengthening our faith.

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                    muslims
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #304

                    Some example on better way to give everything in the path of Allah

                    By no means shall you attain to righteousness
                    until you spend (benevolently)
                    out of what you love

                    |
                    |
                    Duty
                    |
                    |
                    Realisation and Fulfillment of Deen
                    |
                    |
                    +----------------------+---------------------------------------+
                    Self Family Society
                    | | |
                    | | +--------------------------+
                    Realization of <-+ Charitable Business/Profesionalism
                    Deen and Duty (Services and improvement

                    of the society)

                    Limit
                    |
                    |
                    And they ask you as to what they should spend (sadaqah)
                    Say What you can spare
                    Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications
                    that you may ponder
                    (2219)

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                      muslims
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                      #305

                      The process of returning to Allah.

                      Transition from the first realm (womb)
                      (cutting umbilical cord - our path - bay'ah - to reconnect)
                      ie. the importance of blessings from our parents - duty)
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                      http//s9.postimg.org/4t3bkmt5r/twohearts.png

                      Willingly (obedience) or unwillingly (disobedience) empty our heart to Allah

                      The repentance accepted by Allah
                      is only for those
                      who do wrong
                      in ignorance <- conditions for repentance - two conditions
                      and then repent soon after
                      It is those to whom Allah will turn in forgiveness
                      and Allah is ever Knowing and Wise

                      But repentance is not
                      of those who
                      do evil deeds <- conditions for repentance
                      up until, when death comes to one of them, he says
                      "Indeed, I have repented now,"
                      or of those who die while they are disbelievers

                      For them We have prepared a painful punishment
                      (417-1

                      Transition from the first realm (womb)
                      (cutting umbilical cord - our path - bay'ah - to reconnect)
                      ie. the importance of blessings from our parents - duty)

                      And your Lord has commanded
                      that you shall not serve (any) but Him

                      and goodness to your parents
                      If either or both of them reach old age with you
                      say not to them "Ugh"
                      nor chide them
                      and speak to them a generous word
                      (1723)

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                        muslims
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                        #306

                        What is reward and sin?

                        tools to enter paradise and avoiding hell?

                        It is obvious that we cannot avoid sin
                        It is the unavoidable things in life..
                        No matter how good we are ... how hard we try..
                        We will always committing sins and shirk (eg. refer here)

                        sin = dust

                        http//s16.postimg.org/r0fyr5g51/dusty.png

                        However, it is always easier to standing up for good deeds
                        It is easier to become a righteous person
                        It is something that are accomplishable

                        reward = soap

                        http//s18.postimg.org/c03hpnyw9/soap.png

                        Therefore, the actual system (or the awwaliyah) of the Deen of Islam is not really about avoiding sin

                        BUT it is more about becoming a righteous person

                        It is about benefiting humanity and kindness to His creation

                        Becoming humble and understand human beings and other living creatures...

                        It is Allah who will purifies us from our sin and shirk, no one can <- main reason why we need Allah (al-Fatihah)
                        and.. based on our good deeds and level of righteousness

                        Therefore, our real objectives are becoming a righteous person, while striving hard and praying to Allah for forgiveness.

                        Praying to Allah to show us the right path, and purify us from sins and shirk (since we can never avoids shirk).

                        Prostrate to Adam!

                        The relation between reward and sin .. which one is dominant in ourselves?

                        benefiting humanity, or on the issue of "right and wrong in religion"?

                        http//i40.tinypic.com/28slzs0.png

                        avoiding sin = right/wrong = fire element

                        ?Stupidity is the same as evil if you judge by the results.? (refer to al-Anfal22)

                        It is wonderful how much time good people spend fighting the devil
                        If they would only expend the same amount of energy loving their fellow men
                        the devil would die in his own tracks of ennui

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                          muslims
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                          #307

                          Saved from sin and shirk
                          (automatic processing of internal self)
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                          Auliya
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                          True Believer
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                          Mukmeen
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                          Muslim
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                          Allah Purifies Us
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                          Reward
                          (soap)
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                          Righteous Person
                          (main focus)
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                          Good Deeds
                          (Benefiting Self and Humanity)
                          Making enemies and divisions (sectarianism, cf. Towards Human Unity)
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                          Sin
                          (dust)

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                            drfazl
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                            #308

                            Quote from muslims on September 13, 2013, 051513 pm

                            Example on the standard required to attain righteousness

                            By no means shall you attain to righteousness
                            until you spend (benevolently)
                            out of what you love
                            and whatever thing you spend
                            Allah surely knows it
                            (392)

                            And they ask you as to what they should spend (sadaqah)
                            Say What you can spare
                            Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications
                            that you may ponder
                            (2219)

                            What is Sadaqah?
                            Is it physical material?
                            Or being faithfully Truthful for the purpose of Allah?

                            Peace

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                              #309

                              Quote from muslims on September 13, 2013, 051513 pm

                              What is Sadaqah?
                              Is it physical material?
                              Or being faithfully Truthful for the purpose of Allah?

                              Peace

                              Salam

                              As per my current understanding it is something related to what we spend on the path of Allah.

                              http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=7712
                              (392)
                              (you spend)

                              http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=4191
                              (2219)
                              (they (should) spend)

                              You can enlighten us with your understanding or perspectives.

                              http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=1610
                              (29417)
                              (truthful)

                              root

                              to be truthful, true, sincere, speak the truth, establish or confirm the truth of what another has said, verify, keep faith, observe a promise faithfully, fulfill, speak veraciously, hold anyone as trustworthy. sadaqa fi al-qitaali - to fight gallantly. tsaddaqa - to give alms. sidqun - truth, veracity, sincerity, soundness, excellence in a variety of different objects, salubrious and agreeable, favourable entrance, praise. saadiqun - one who is true and sincere, one who speaks the truth. saadiqah - perfect woman. sadaqat (pl. saduqaat) - dowry. siddiiq - person who is trustworthy, sincere. saddaqa - to confirm, verify, fulfil. asdaqu - more true.

                              Sadaga (prf 3rd. p.m. sing.) He spoke the truth, declared the truth.
                              Sadagat (prf 3rd. p. f. sing.) She spoke the truth.
                              Sadaquu (prf. 3rd. p.m. plu.) They told truth, proved truthful.
                              Sadaqta (prf 2nd. m. sing.) Thou told the truth.
                              Sadaqna (prf. 1st. P. plu.) We fulfilled.
                              Saddaqa (prf 3rd. p.m. sing. II) Verified; Judged correctly; Accepted the truth; Believed; Proved true.
                              Saddaqat (prf. 3rd. p. f. sing. II) She testified, declared her faith in.
                              Saddaqta (prf. 2nd, p.m. sing. II.) Thou fulfilled.
                              Yusaddiqu (imp. 3rd. p.m. sing. II.) He confirms; Bears (me) out.
                              Yusaddiquuna (imp. 3rd. p.m.plu. II) They testify, accept the truth.
                              Tusaddiquuna (imp. 2nd. p.m. plu. II.) You realize the reality of, admit the truth.
                              Tasaddaga (prf. 3rd. p.m.sing. V.) He chooses to forego (and gave as charity).
                              Tasaddaquu (imp. 3rd. p.m. plu. V. acc.) You choose to fore go (and give as charity).
                              Tasaddaq (prt. m. sing. V) Be charitable, show us charity.
                              Yassaddaquu (imp. 3rd. p.m. plu. V. acc.) They forego, remit as a charity.
                              Assaddaga (imp. 1st. P. sing. V. ace.) I would have given alms.
                              Nassaddaqanna (imp. 1st. p. plu. V.) We will surely give alms.
                              Sidqun/ Sidqan (acc./n.) Truthfulness.
                              Saadiqun/Saadiqan (acc./ act. plc. n. sing.) True; Truth-teller; Truthful.
                              Saadiquun/Saadiqiin (acc./ ap-der. m. plu.) Truthful ones.
                              Saadigdtu (ap-derf plu.) Truthful women.
                              Sadagatin/Sadagatan (acc./gen. n.) Charity; Alms.
                              Sadaqaat (n. plu.) Charities; Alms.
                              Saduqaat (n. plu. of Saduqatun) Dowries.
                              Sadiiqun (act. 2nd. pic. m. sing.) Friend.
                              Asdaqu (m. sing, elative.) More truthful than.
                              Siddiqun (m, sing. ints.) Man of truth and veracity.
                              Siddiigatun (f sing. ints.) Woman of high truthful and veracity.
                              Siddiiquna/Siddiiqiina (gen./ m. plu. ints.) Truthful ones.
                              Musaddiqun / Musaddiqan (acc./ ap-der. m. sing. II.) ' Fulfilling; Confirming one.
                              Musaddiqiin (ap-der, m. sing. II. gen.) Confirming one.
                              Mutasaddiqiina (ap-der. m. plu. acc. gen. V.) Alms givers; Charitable ones.
                              Musaddiqina (ap-der m. plu. acc. V ) Alms-givers; Charitable ones.
                              Mutasaddiqaat (ap-der. f. plu. V.) Almsgiver women.
                              Musaddiqaat (ap-der. f. plu. V.) Almsgiver women.
                              Tasdiiqun (v. n.) Confirmation.

                              sadaqa vb. (1)
                              perf. act. 2177, 395, 3152, 5113, 943, 1226, 219, 2727, 293, 3322, 3323, 3652, 3974, 4721, 4827
                              n.vb. 5119, 6115, 102, 1093, 1780, 1780, 1950, 2684, 338, 3324, 3932, 3933, 4616, 5455
                              pcple. act. 223, 231, 294, 2111, 317, 393, 3168, 3183, 487, 4122, 5119, 640, 6143, 6146, 770, 7106, 7194, 9119, 1038, 1048, 1113, 1132, 1217, 1227, 1251, 1282, 157, 1564, 1954, 2138, 246, 249, 2631, 26154, 26187, 2749, 2764, 2771, 2849, 2929, 3228, 338, 3324, 3335, 3335, 3429, 3648, 37157, 4028, 4436, 4525, 464, 4622, 4915, 4917, 515, 5234, 5687, 598, 626, 6725, 6841

                              sadaqah n.f. 2196, 2263, 2264, 2271, 2276, 4114, 958, 960, 979, 9103, 9104, 5812, 5813

                              sadiq n.m. 2461, 26101

                              saduqat n.f. (pl. of saduqah) 44

                              siddiq n.m. 469, 575, 1246, 1941, 1956, 5719

                              saddaqa vb. (2)
                              perf. act. 3420, 3737, 37105, 3933, 6612, 7531, 926
                              impf. act. 2834, 5657, 7026
                              n.vb. 1037, 12111
                              pcple. act. 241, 289, 291, 297, 2101, 33, 339, 350, 381, 447, 546, 546, 548, 692, 3531, 3752, 4612, 4630, 616

                              tasaddaqa vb. (5)
                              perf. act. 2280, 545
                              impf. act. 492, 975
                              impv. 6310, 1288
                              pcple. act. 1288, 3335, 3335, 5718, 5718

                              LL, V4, p 390, 391, 392, 393

                              Peace.

                              p/s I doubt swam or fasting is understand correctly as per the true meaning of the Qur'an, BUT I like it!! )

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                                Salam

                                As per my current understanding it is something related to what we spend on the path of Allah.

                                http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=7712
                                (392)
                                (you spend)

                                http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=4191
                                (2219)
                                (they (should) spend)

                                You can enlighten us with your understanding or perspectives.

                                http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=1610
                                (29417)
                                (truthful)

                                Peace,

                                Being truthful is not giving away to the poor some physical material say, money or other worldly things of pleasure. Before helping the poor with materials of this world, it is pertinent to know how to identify as to towards who Allah directs our charitable lives to turn to.

                                Allah pins down the wrong doers and the transgressors with disease and poverty in order that they humble themselves before God and obey diligently His ordainment. The obedience that a believer shall truthfully observe and abide by is, to spend in the cause of Allah in richness and in poverty from whatever they possess when a righteous situation demands. Generally people will get angry at even normal household expenditures while in financial straitness; that is the testing point from Allah to see how they behave and how much they believe in Him that they would be justly recompensed in accordance with their patience; and He sees how much they remember the promise of Allah that for every good deed or endurance in the path of righteousness they would be endowed with a reward ten times more; and that it would be doubled and that it would grow in multiples thereof.

                                Allah loves those who restrain their anger during the times of constraints because of their belief in the truth and loves those who pardon the people. They spend towards righteousness generously from their limited allowance without miserliness, only to please Allah. And Allah too is pleased with such of them and for them is His Grace and Providence. They shall neither worry nor grieve. Towards this end each one shall strive truthfully spending his life and stand as a model of inspiration unto others, to establish the Truth.

                                3134 Who spend in the cause of Allah during ease and hardship and who restrain anger and who pardon the people - and Allah loves the doers of good.

                                However Allah might show as proof to the people of the community, the steadfastness of the very truthful and enduring believers by testing them under His direct supervision. For others their plight might seem as a mighty and a grave situation indeed, but it is Him who made their situation seemed so easy in their minds until He made them tide over it, rewarding them a grand lasting victory. Allah is powerful over all things. Allah would make their whole life a charitable sign to others that the promise of Allah is true they would neither suffer worry nor would they grieve over the losses. To make so is easy for Allah.

                                And the Living Sign of Allah's grace for others is the life of them who find it difficult to be liberal in the cause of Allah, yet unable to move about freely in the land. An ignorant one would think them self-sufficient because of their restraint, but you will know them by their sign. They do not ask people persistently. And whatever you spend of good - indeed, Allah is Knowing of it. 2273

                                Spending our lives in the cause of Allah, each one proving a word from Him in this world to help believe the poor ignorant people, is the truthful poor due upon us, in this life.

                                salam
                                fazl

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                                  Being truthful is not giving away to the poor some physical material say, money or other worldly things of pleasure. Before helping the poor with materials of this world, it is pertinent to know how to identify as to towards who Allah directs our charitable lives to turn to.

                                  The obedience that a believer shall truthfully observe and abide by is, to spend in the cause of Allah in richness and in poverty from whatever they possess when a righteous situation demands.

                                  Spending our lives in the cause of Allah, each one proving a word from Him in this world to help believe the poor ignorant people, is the truthful poor due upon us, in this life.

                                  Salam

                                  To a certain extent, the above conclusions might have some truth in it, but your explanation is deviating and does not explain the word "sadaqah" in the context of Sura (392) and (2219); i.e. our discussion.

                                  Further, being "truthful" is more about doing from what you understand about life and its relation to the Qur'an. There is no target for becoming a True Muslim, and there is no need for us to copy what other peoples are doing or follow some motivational books without understanding and experiencing its true meaning (including the Qur'an - refer to 625 and 5577-79).

                                  The struggling and going is the goal, and it doesn't matter where we start (or end), as long as we start somewhere and keep on improving our life and strengthening our faith.

                                  How a child can grow into an adult within 1 year?

                                  How to grow into timber trees from seeds within 24 hours?

                                  It is not the Sunnatullah and there is no target for becoming a Muslim.

                                  Hijab is not the actual requirement in the Qur'an.

                                  The actual requirement in the Qur'an is for human beings to learn, understand, and reform continuously for the better (istiqamah - changes from within ourselves comes first - roots of a tree).

                                  It is the process of understanding that matter, not the end results (comparison - how can one expect to be free from shirk within a short period of time? Impossible!).

                                  Life and our understanding is a process, and so as how we should live "our lives in the cause of Allah".

                                  It is a journey and there is "truthfulness" in every stage and situation of our life

                                  .. as long we keep on improving and strengthening our faith according to the Qur'an.

                                  Age Concept of Right/Wrong

                                  70 Being absolutely right for the level of 70 years old person "
                                  http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                  60 Being absolutely right for the level of 60 years old person "
                                  http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                  50 Being absolutely right for the level of 50 years old person "
                                  http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                  40 Being absolutely right for the level of 40 years old person "
                                  http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                  30 Being absolutely right for the level of 30 years old person "
                                  http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                  20 Being absolutely right for the level of 20 years old person "
                                  http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                  10 Being absolutely right for the level of 10 years old person "
                                  http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                  1 Being absolutely right for the level of 1 year old baby <-- limited by our senses, abilities etc.

                                  Similarly, this can be applied to certain life conditions, psychological backgrounds, personal traits, ethnic, educational backgrounds, and etc. These are all variables, and the overall consequences are the Sunnatullah, Absolute Justice.

                                  Therefore, does it really matter of being right or wrong?

                                  Does the above pattern of being right or wrong really matters to Allah?

                                  What about those who live 1,000 years ago, where there is no proper educational system, or where people unable to read the Qur'an? Can they survive and become a real Muslim? Can we apply the same concept of right or wrong?

                                  What is the actual standard to become a Muslim?

                                  There are no fixed rules, and it can be the hardest things to achieve, or it can be the simplest things to achieve; which totally depends on the "Level of Shirk" within ourselves.

                                  Peace

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                                    Muslims,
                                    Peace

                                    392
                                    By no means shall you attain righteousness unless you give of that which you love; and whatever you give, of a truth Allah knows it well.

                                    Note We love our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives, the wealth, the business and our houses. All these comprise our lives. And we love our lives much dearer than any other thing we possess. The life of people in this world is "But play and amusement, pomp and mutual boasting and multiplying among yourselves, riches and children". Love not all these but keep in your heart high above them all Allah, His Messengers, and your life in the cause of righteousness.

                                    Sadaqa is wishing good. It is wishing righteousness, in the Name of Allah, the Guide. Thus by His grace you are elevated to a degree as a sign to others. And this is living the truthful life as ordained by Allah.

                                    1. We will deal next after we are finished with this. And all the rest of your post shall have to be dealt with later.

                                    Peace

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                                      392
                                      By no means shall you attain righteousness unless you give of that which you love; and whatever you give, of a truth Allah knows it well.

                                      Note We love our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives, the wealth, the business and our houses. All these comprise our lives. And we love our lives much dearer than any other thing we possess. The life of people in this world is "But play and amusement, pomp and mutual boasting and multiplying among yourselves, riches and children". Love not all these but keep in your heart high above them all Allah, His Messengers, and your life in the cause of righteousness.

                                      Sadaqa is wishing good. It is wishing righteousness, in the Name of Allah, the Guide. Thus by His grace you are elevated to a degree as a sign to others. And this is living the truthful life as ordained by Allah.

                                      Salam

                                      Below is the context of that ayat, and how Allah relates "gold", "ransom" and "spend" in the way of Allah; ie. love of gold (wealth) during our life and after death.

                                      Indeed, those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers
                                      never would the capacity of the earth in gold
                                      be accepted from one of them
                                      if he would ransom himself with it
                                      For those there will be a painful punishment
                                      and they will have no helpers
                                      Never will you attain the good
                                      until you spend
                                      from that which you love
                                      And whatever you spend
                                      indeed, Allah is Knowing of it
                                      (391-92)

                                      I believe the ayat is explaining the "love of wealth (money - gold, coin, paper money etc)". Therefore, how can it be interpreted to give "our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives" in the way of Allah. They have their own free wills, and are responsible and accountable for themselves to Allah. We are not manager over them.

                                      O you who have believed
                                      upon you is yourselves
                                      Those who have gone astray will not harm you when you have been guided
                                      To Allah is you return all together
                                      then He will inform you of what you used to do
                                      (5105)

                                      (also refer to 4033)

                                      Peace.

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                                        Salam

                                        Below is the context of that ayat, and how Allah relates "gold" hypno, "ransom" and "spend" in the way of Allah; ie. love of gold (wealth) during our life and after death.

                                        Indeed, those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers
                                        never would the capacity of the earth in gold
                                        be accepted from one of them
                                        if he would ransom himself with it
                                        For those there will be a painful punishment
                                        and they will have no helpers
                                        Never will you attain the good
                                        until you spend
                                        from that which you love
                                        And whatever you spend
                                        indeed, Allah is Knowing of it
                                        (391-92)

                                        I believe the ayat is explaining the "love of wealth (money - gold, coin, paper money etc)". Therefore, how can it be interpreted to give "our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives" in the way of Allah. They have their own free wills, and are responsible and accountable for themselves to Allah. We are not manager over them.

                                        O you who have believed
                                        upon you is yourselves
                                        Those who have gone astray will not harm you when you have been guided
                                        To Allah is you return all together
                                        then He will inform you of what you used to do
                                        (5105)

                                        (also refer to 4033)

                                        Peace

                                        Salam

                                        Firstly, with reference to the understanding of the contextual application of Quran, we need to remember and know the following

                                        • Quran's ayats are not contradictory to each other.

                                        • Every ayat is supportive of and contributory to any other ayat any where in Quran.

                                        • Each ayat is explanatory to all times and all the events and all the occurrences of the past, present and future.

                                        • Any ayat should clarify to each man as to what in truth is happening around him with reference to that which is happening around him; and with reference to his individual life.

                                        • Accordingly, if Quran is a guidance to each individual from the beginning to the end of the world; and from birth to the death of each person, the context of any ayat is closely connected to each one's individualistic, and constantly changing situation of his life at any point of time; and his grade and degree of life he is living, from the heavens down to the earth.

                                        I believe the ayat is explaining the "love of wealth (money - gold, coin, paper money etc)". Therefore, how can it be interpreted to give "our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives" in the way of Allah. They have their own free wills, and are responsible and accountable for themselves to Allah. We are not manager over them.

                                        'Give' shall not mean to you giving away in ransom, but put them all and you in His Trust if your belief is, "Allah is the Only Guide". Allah loves those who put their trust in Him. When Allah loves you, you are not at all deprived of His Abundance. Such showing the Truthful Guidance to the people around by being ourselves model first, is the spending of our life, our entire life in charity.

                                        Peace.

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                                          Salam

                                          Firstly, with reference to the understanding of the contextual application of Quran, we need to remember and know the following

                                          • Quran's ayats are not contradictory to each other.

                                          • Every ayat is supportive of and contributory to any other ayat any where in Quran.

                                          • Each ayat is explanatory to all times and all the events and all the occurrences of the past, present and future.

                                          • Any ayat should clarify to each man as to what in truth is happening around him with reference to that which is happening around him; and with reference to his individual life.

                                          • Accordingly, if Quran is a guidance to each individual from the beginning to the end of the world; and from birth to the death of each person, the context of any ayat is closely connected to each one's individualistic, and constantly changing situation of his life at any point of time; and his grade and degree of life he is living, from the heavens down to the earth.

                                          'Give' shall not mean to you giving away in ransom, but put them all and you in His Trust if your belief is, "Allah is the Only Guide". Allah loves those who put their trust in Him. When Allah loves you, you are not at all deprived of His Abundance. Such showing the Truthful Guidance to the people around by being ourselves model first, is the spending of our life, our entire life in charity.

                                          Peace.

                                          RED is mine

                                          Salam

                                          I am discussing about Sura (391-92) and how Allah relates the word "spend" with "gold" and "love" (of wealth). I am not discussing about our entire "life" or the whole meaning of the Qur'an. The whole meaning of the Qur'an does not entirely depends on ayat (391-92) alone. Therefore we leave what is the meaning of the entire Qur'an and remain focuses on our discussion. As we can see, ayat (91) is the direct support for the meaning of ayat (92) and from these two ayats, the context "spend" and "love" is related to "gold". It is not related to "our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives".

                                          Therefore...

                                          Therefore, how can it be interpreted to give "our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives" in the way of Allah. They have their own free wills, and are responsible and accountable for themselves to Allah. We are not manager over them.

                                          the context of any ayat is closely connected to each one's individualistic, and constantly changing situation of his life at any point of time; and his grade and degree of life he is living, from the heavens down to the earth.

                                          There is a difference between "the context of the ayat" (Qur'anic context - words of Allah) and "what you may understood by it" (your context - your philosophy). This is what happened in the past, where the ulama are imposing their own context to the Qur'an, as it is the Qur'an (claiming absolute truth). Therefore, I believe your methodology or concept of interpretation that "the context of any ayat is closely connected to each one's individualistic" are contradicting the following ayats. It will cause deviation and division in the society since many peoples have many different interpretations of the Qur'an, according to their own desires (4523)(2543).

                                          So direct your face toward the deen, inclining to truth
                                          the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created people
                                          No change should there be in the creation of Allah (deen)
                                          That is the correct deen
                                          but most of the people do not know
                                          (3030)

                                          O you who have believed
                                          DO NOT ask about things which
                                          if they are shown to you
                                          will distress you
                                          But if you ask about them while the Qur'an is being revealed
                                          they will be shown to you
                                          Allah has pardoned that which is past
                                          and Allah is Forgiving and Forbearing
                                          (5101)

                                          And indeed, there is among them a party
                                          who alter the Scripture
                                          with their tongues
                                          so you may think it is from the Scripture
                                          but it is not from the Scripture
                                          And they say, "This is from Allah ,"
                                          but it is not from Allah
                                          And they speak untruth about Allah while they know
                                          (378)

                                          Peace

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