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    muslims
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    For example, how can anyone expect to be free from this Shirk?

    If we based on the concept of right or wrong, then no one would ever survive (without the help of Allah)...

    And set forth to them a parable of two men
    for one of them We made two gardens of grape vines
    and We surrounded them both with palms
    and in the midst of them We made cornfields

    Both these gardens yielded their fruits
    and failed not aught thereof
    and We caused a river to gush forth in their midst

    And he possessed much wealth

    so he said to his companion, while he disputed with him

    I have greater wealth than you, and am mightier in followers <- Shirk? This is what most people
    https//www.google.com/help/hc/images/sites_icon_arrow_up_small.gif would say. Greater wealth,
    And he entered his garden https//www.google.com/help/hc/images/sites_icon_arrow_up_small.gif knowledge, skills, family etc.
    while he was unjust to himself, He said <- On the issue of justly balanced within ourselves.
    I do not think that this will ever perish <- This is also what most people would say.
    And I do not think the hour will come i.e. not come within the next few hours, days, years etc.
    and even if I am returned to my Lord <- Same, and most people believe they will be in Paradise.
    I will most certainly find a returning place better than this Proof that he believe in Allah and the
    Hour will come, but not in his lifetime.
    His companion said to him while disputing with him

    Do you disbelieve in Him <- Shirk?
    Who created you from dust
    then from a small seed
    then He made you a perfect man?

    But as for me
    He, Allah, is my Lord
    and I do not associate anyone with my Lord <- Who is "anyone" in this story context? Self?

    (1832-4

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      muslims
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      #299

      And you become three kinds

      Then the companions of the right <- just
      what are the companions of the right?

      And the companions of the left <- unjust
      what are the companions of the left?

      And the forerunners, the forerunners <- justly balanced (Sunnatullah -> just + unjust)
      Those are the ones brought near
      In the Gardens of Pleasure

      (567-12)

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        muslims
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        #300

        In the name of Allah

        the Beneficent
        the Merciful

        All praise <- What for?
        is due to Allah <- Deen, dayn, debt, due

        the Lord of the Worlds <- Does human beings really witness this? How many?

        The Beneficent
        the Merciful

        Master of the Day of Judgment

        Thee do we serve <- serve comes first (obedience), only then eligible for help
        and Thee do we beseech for help

        Keep us <- Is there really a free will? Or influence on our free will?
        on the right path <- Who hold the key to the right path?
        The path of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed favors
        Not (the path) of those upon whom Thy wrath is brought down
        nor of those who go astray

        (11-7)

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          #301

          Level of
          Under-
          Level of standing Level of Impact of Level of
          Shirk the Qur'an Obedience Allah's tests Believers
          (Faith)


          100% 0% 0% -> Muslim -> -100 <- Faith equal to "Love Monkey"=No faith!

          http//s22.postimg.org/zaua8dhr1/monkey.png

          Proof that there is no faith... not yet.

          The test.

          Example on the standard required to attain righteousness

          By no means shall you attain to righteousness
          until you spend (benevolently)
          out of what you love
          and whatever thing you spend
          Allah surely knows it
          (392)

          And they ask you as to what they should spend (sadaqah)
          Say What you can spare
          Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications
          that you may ponder
          (2219)

          Who can sadaqa all his property for Allah?

          Try practicing this for 7 continuous years without failed.

          Do you feel worry?

          Hard to accept?

          If yes, then there is no faith.

          It is quite simple.

          The believers
          are only <- exclusionary principle and the definition of believers
          the ones who have believed in Allah and His Messenger
          and then doubt not
          but strive with their properties
          and their lives
          in the cause of Allah
          It is those who are the truthful.
          (4915)

          Unquestionably, the allies of Allah
          there will be no fear concerning them
          nor will they grieve
          (1062-64)

          Do the people think
          that they will be left to say,
          "We believe"
          and they will not be tried?

          There are no fixed rules, and it can be the hardest things to achieve, or it can be the simplest things to achieve; which totally depends on the "Level of Shirk" within ourselves.

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            #302

            there is no target for becoming a Muslim.

            What really matters to Allah?

            What is Allah like to see from us?

            The struggling and going is the goal, and it doesn't matter where we start (or end), as long as we start somewhere and keep on improving our life and strengthening our faith.

            The actual requirement in the Qur'an is for human beings to learn, understand, and reform continuously for the better (istiqamah - changes from within ourselves comes first - roots of a tree).

            It is the process of understanding that matter, not the end results (comparison - how can one expect to be free from shirk within a short period of time? Impossible!). Therefore it doesn't matter or less relevant to Islam if peoples wear Hijab or not, since it is not the real issue in Islam. In fact, it is the most irrelevant issue to the society (it is personal issue - 5105).

            Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah
            are the deaf and dumb
            who do not use reason <- The importance of reason, and not becoming a robot (blind follower)
            (822) (trees without roots - how long can it hold straight on the ground?)

            And before it was the scripture of Moses
            to lead and as a mercy

            And this is a confirming Book
            in an Arabic tongue
            to warn those who have wronged
            and as good tidings to the doers of good <- Is this the reality of our life? Is it true? If not, why?
            Indeed, those who have said
            "Our Lord is Allah"
            and then remained on a right course
            there will be no fear concerning them
            nor will they grieve
            (4612-13)

            Do you not see
            that ships sail through the sea
            by the favor of Allah
            that He may show you of His signs?
            Indeed in that are signs
            for everyone patient <- the standard or main requirements, patient and grateful
            and grateful <- Alhamdu
            (3131)

            Indeed, Allah is with those
            who fear Him
            and those who are doers of good
            (16128)

            Those who believe
            and do righteous good deeds

            there is no sin on them
            for what they ate

            if they fear Allah
            and believe
            and do righteous good deeds

            and again
            fear Allah
            and believe

            and once again
            fear Allah
            and do good deeds

            with Ihsan (perfection)

            And Allah loves the good-doers
            (593)

            Except for those who repent
            correct themselves
            hold fast to Allah
            and are sincere in their deen for Allah <- requires understanding
            for those will be with the believers
            And Allah is going to give the believers a great reward
            (4146)

            There is not upon the weak
            or upon the ill
            or upon those who do not find anything to spend any discomfort
            when they are sincere
            to Allah and His Messenger
            There is not upon the doers of good any cause
            And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful
            (991)

            And cause not corruption upon the earth
            after its reformation
            And invoke Him in fear and aspiration
            Indeed, the mercy of Allah
            is near to the doers of good
            (756)

            Indeed, Allah does not allow to be lost the reward
            of the doers of good
            (9120)

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              muslims
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              #303

              +---- Controlled by Allah ----+
              | |
              | |
              +------- Favorite topics ------+
              | for religious people |
              | |
              Irrelevant Irrelevant
              to human to human
              (war zone) (war zone)
              | |
              | |
              | |
              | Freewill |
              | (Qur'an) |
              | (Sunnatullah) |
              | (Justly Balanced) |
              | | |
              | | |
              | Level of |
              | Alhamdu |
              | | |
              | | |
              Wrong |<----- 100% ----->| Right
              Evil | Good
              Unlucky 90% Lucky
              Ugly | Pretty
              Poor 80% Rich
              Etc. | Etc.
              ^ 70% ^
              | | |
              | 60% |
              | | |
              | 50% |
              | | |
              | 40% |
              | | |
              | 30% |
              | | |
              | 20% |
              | | |
              | 10% |
              | | |
              | 0% |
              | ^ |
              | | |
              | | |
              | (3131) |
              | patient (doers of good) |
              +------------- Grateful -------------+
              | Alhamdu |
              | ^ |
              Takes ^ Takes
              time | time
              ^ | ^
              | | |
              | Progressive |
              | | |

              • <------- Understanding ------>+
                |
                |
                Depends on the Level of Shirk
                |
                Those with "one heart" (no heart) will never commit Shirk
                Shirk or Faith requires "the right elements of" Iman and Amal to be presence
                Therefore
                Condition = Iman + Amal = Not Shirk/Faith
                Similarly = Iman + Amal = Not Shirk/Faith
                Iman + Amal = Shirk/Faith
                |
                And rely on Allah
                and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.
                Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior.
                (333-4)

              The struggling and going is the goal, and it doesn't matter where we start (or end), as long as we start somewhere and keep on improving our life and strengthening our faith.

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                muslims
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                #304

                Some example on better way to give everything in the path of Allah

                By no means shall you attain to righteousness
                until you spend (benevolently)
                out of what you love

                |
                |
                Duty
                |
                |
                Realisation and Fulfillment of Deen
                |
                |
                +----------------------+---------------------------------------+
                Self Family Society
                | | |
                | | +--------------------------+
                Realization of <-+ Charitable Business/Profesionalism
                Deen and Duty (Services and improvement

                of the society)

                Limit
                |
                |
                And they ask you as to what they should spend (sadaqah)
                Say What you can spare
                Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications
                that you may ponder
                (2219)

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                  The process of returning to Allah.

                  Transition from the first realm (womb)
                  (cutting umbilical cord - our path - bay'ah - to reconnect)
                  ie. the importance of blessings from our parents - duty)
                  http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKi*MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
                  http//s9.postimg.org/4t3bkmt5r/twohearts.png

                  Willingly (obedience) or unwillingly (disobedience) empty our heart to Allah

                  The repentance accepted by Allah
                  is only for those
                  who do wrong
                  in ignorance <- conditions for repentance - two conditions
                  and then repent soon after
                  It is those to whom Allah will turn in forgiveness
                  and Allah is ever Knowing and Wise

                  But repentance is not
                  of those who
                  do evil deeds <- conditions for repentance
                  up until, when death comes to one of them, he says
                  "Indeed, I have repented now,"
                  or of those who die while they are disbelievers

                  For them We have prepared a painful punishment
                  (417-1

                  Transition from the first realm (womb)
                  (cutting umbilical cord - our path - bay'ah - to reconnect)
                  ie. the importance of blessings from our parents - duty)

                  And your Lord has commanded
                  that you shall not serve (any) but Him

                  and goodness to your parents
                  If either or both of them reach old age with you
                  say not to them "Ugh"
                  nor chide them
                  and speak to them a generous word
                  (1723)

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                    muslims
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                    #306

                    What is reward and sin?

                    tools to enter paradise and avoiding hell?

                    It is obvious that we cannot avoid sin
                    It is the unavoidable things in life..
                    No matter how good we are ... how hard we try..
                    We will always committing sins and shirk (eg. refer here)

                    sin = dust

                    http//s16.postimg.org/r0fyr5g51/dusty.png

                    However, it is always easier to standing up for good deeds
                    It is easier to become a righteous person
                    It is something that are accomplishable

                    reward = soap

                    http//s18.postimg.org/c03hpnyw9/soap.png

                    Therefore, the actual system (or the awwaliyah) of the Deen of Islam is not really about avoiding sin

                    BUT it is more about becoming a righteous person

                    It is about benefiting humanity and kindness to His creation

                    Becoming humble and understand human beings and other living creatures...

                    It is Allah who will purifies us from our sin and shirk, no one can <- main reason why we need Allah (al-Fatihah)
                    and.. based on our good deeds and level of righteousness

                    Therefore, our real objectives are becoming a righteous person, while striving hard and praying to Allah for forgiveness.

                    Praying to Allah to show us the right path, and purify us from sins and shirk (since we can never avoids shirk).

                    Prostrate to Adam!

                    The relation between reward and sin .. which one is dominant in ourselves?

                    benefiting humanity, or on the issue of "right and wrong in religion"?

                    http//i40.tinypic.com/28slzs0.png

                    avoiding sin = right/wrong = fire element

                    ?Stupidity is the same as evil if you judge by the results.? (refer to al-Anfal22)

                    It is wonderful how much time good people spend fighting the devil
                    If they would only expend the same amount of energy loving their fellow men
                    the devil would die in his own tracks of ennui

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                      muslims
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                      #307

                      Saved from sin and shirk
                      (automatic processing of internal self)
                      http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                      Auliya
                      http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                      True Believer
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                      Mukmeen
                      http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                      Muslim
                      http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                      Allah Purifies Us
                      http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                      Reward
                      (soap)
                      http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                      Righteous Person
                      (main focus)
                      http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                      Good Deeds
                      (Benefiting Self and Humanity)
                      Making enemies and divisions (sectarianism, cf. Towards Human Unity)
                      http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                      Sin
                      (dust)

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                        Quote from muslims on September 13, 2013, 051513 pm

                        Example on the standard required to attain righteousness

                        By no means shall you attain to righteousness
                        until you spend (benevolently)
                        out of what you love
                        and whatever thing you spend
                        Allah surely knows it
                        (392)

                        And they ask you as to what they should spend (sadaqah)
                        Say What you can spare
                        Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications
                        that you may ponder
                        (2219)

                        What is Sadaqah?
                        Is it physical material?
                        Or being faithfully Truthful for the purpose of Allah?

                        Peace

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                          #309

                          Quote from muslims on September 13, 2013, 051513 pm

                          What is Sadaqah?
                          Is it physical material?
                          Or being faithfully Truthful for the purpose of Allah?

                          Peace

                          Salam

                          As per my current understanding it is something related to what we spend on the path of Allah.

                          http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=7712
                          (392)
                          (you spend)

                          http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=4191
                          (2219)
                          (they (should) spend)

                          You can enlighten us with your understanding or perspectives.

                          http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=1610
                          (29417)
                          (truthful)

                          root

                          to be truthful, true, sincere, speak the truth, establish or confirm the truth of what another has said, verify, keep faith, observe a promise faithfully, fulfill, speak veraciously, hold anyone as trustworthy. sadaqa fi al-qitaali - to fight gallantly. tsaddaqa - to give alms. sidqun - truth, veracity, sincerity, soundness, excellence in a variety of different objects, salubrious and agreeable, favourable entrance, praise. saadiqun - one who is true and sincere, one who speaks the truth. saadiqah - perfect woman. sadaqat (pl. saduqaat) - dowry. siddiiq - person who is trustworthy, sincere. saddaqa - to confirm, verify, fulfil. asdaqu - more true.

                          Sadaga (prf 3rd. p.m. sing.) He spoke the truth, declared the truth.
                          Sadagat (prf 3rd. p. f. sing.) She spoke the truth.
                          Sadaquu (prf. 3rd. p.m. plu.) They told truth, proved truthful.
                          Sadaqta (prf 2nd. m. sing.) Thou told the truth.
                          Sadaqna (prf. 1st. P. plu.) We fulfilled.
                          Saddaqa (prf 3rd. p.m. sing. II) Verified; Judged correctly; Accepted the truth; Believed; Proved true.
                          Saddaqat (prf. 3rd. p. f. sing. II) She testified, declared her faith in.
                          Saddaqta (prf. 2nd, p.m. sing. II.) Thou fulfilled.
                          Yusaddiqu (imp. 3rd. p.m. sing. II.) He confirms; Bears (me) out.
                          Yusaddiquuna (imp. 3rd. p.m.plu. II) They testify, accept the truth.
                          Tusaddiquuna (imp. 2nd. p.m. plu. II.) You realize the reality of, admit the truth.
                          Tasaddaga (prf. 3rd. p.m.sing. V.) He chooses to forego (and gave as charity).
                          Tasaddaquu (imp. 3rd. p.m. plu. V. acc.) You choose to fore go (and give as charity).
                          Tasaddaq (prt. m. sing. V) Be charitable, show us charity.
                          Yassaddaquu (imp. 3rd. p.m. plu. V. acc.) They forego, remit as a charity.
                          Assaddaga (imp. 1st. P. sing. V. ace.) I would have given alms.
                          Nassaddaqanna (imp. 1st. p. plu. V.) We will surely give alms.
                          Sidqun/ Sidqan (acc./n.) Truthfulness.
                          Saadiqun/Saadiqan (acc./ act. plc. n. sing.) True; Truth-teller; Truthful.
                          Saadiquun/Saadiqiin (acc./ ap-der. m. plu.) Truthful ones.
                          Saadigdtu (ap-derf plu.) Truthful women.
                          Sadagatin/Sadagatan (acc./gen. n.) Charity; Alms.
                          Sadaqaat (n. plu.) Charities; Alms.
                          Saduqaat (n. plu. of Saduqatun) Dowries.
                          Sadiiqun (act. 2nd. pic. m. sing.) Friend.
                          Asdaqu (m. sing, elative.) More truthful than.
                          Siddiqun (m, sing. ints.) Man of truth and veracity.
                          Siddiigatun (f sing. ints.) Woman of high truthful and veracity.
                          Siddiiquna/Siddiiqiina (gen./ m. plu. ints.) Truthful ones.
                          Musaddiqun / Musaddiqan (acc./ ap-der. m. sing. II.) ' Fulfilling; Confirming one.
                          Musaddiqiin (ap-der, m. sing. II. gen.) Confirming one.
                          Mutasaddiqiina (ap-der. m. plu. acc. gen. V.) Alms givers; Charitable ones.
                          Musaddiqina (ap-der m. plu. acc. V ) Alms-givers; Charitable ones.
                          Mutasaddiqaat (ap-der. f. plu. V.) Almsgiver women.
                          Musaddiqaat (ap-der. f. plu. V.) Almsgiver women.
                          Tasdiiqun (v. n.) Confirmation.

                          sadaqa vb. (1)
                          perf. act. 2177, 395, 3152, 5113, 943, 1226, 219, 2727, 293, 3322, 3323, 3652, 3974, 4721, 4827
                          n.vb. 5119, 6115, 102, 1093, 1780, 1780, 1950, 2684, 338, 3324, 3932, 3933, 4616, 5455
                          pcple. act. 223, 231, 294, 2111, 317, 393, 3168, 3183, 487, 4122, 5119, 640, 6143, 6146, 770, 7106, 7194, 9119, 1038, 1048, 1113, 1132, 1217, 1227, 1251, 1282, 157, 1564, 1954, 2138, 246, 249, 2631, 26154, 26187, 2749, 2764, 2771, 2849, 2929, 3228, 338, 3324, 3335, 3335, 3429, 3648, 37157, 4028, 4436, 4525, 464, 4622, 4915, 4917, 515, 5234, 5687, 598, 626, 6725, 6841

                          sadaqah n.f. 2196, 2263, 2264, 2271, 2276, 4114, 958, 960, 979, 9103, 9104, 5812, 5813

                          sadiq n.m. 2461, 26101

                          saduqat n.f. (pl. of saduqah) 44

                          siddiq n.m. 469, 575, 1246, 1941, 1956, 5719

                          saddaqa vb. (2)
                          perf. act. 3420, 3737, 37105, 3933, 6612, 7531, 926
                          impf. act. 2834, 5657, 7026
                          n.vb. 1037, 12111
                          pcple. act. 241, 289, 291, 297, 2101, 33, 339, 350, 381, 447, 546, 546, 548, 692, 3531, 3752, 4612, 4630, 616

                          tasaddaqa vb. (5)
                          perf. act. 2280, 545
                          impf. act. 492, 975
                          impv. 6310, 1288
                          pcple. act. 1288, 3335, 3335, 5718, 5718

                          LL, V4, p 390, 391, 392, 393

                          Peace.

                          p/s I doubt swam or fasting is understand correctly as per the true meaning of the Qur'an, BUT I like it!! )

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                            Salam

                            As per my current understanding it is something related to what we spend on the path of Allah.

                            http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=7712
                            (392)
                            (you spend)

                            http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=4191
                            (2219)
                            (they (should) spend)

                            You can enlighten us with your understanding or perspectives.

                            http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=1610
                            (29417)
                            (truthful)

                            Peace,

                            Being truthful is not giving away to the poor some physical material say, money or other worldly things of pleasure. Before helping the poor with materials of this world, it is pertinent to know how to identify as to towards who Allah directs our charitable lives to turn to.

                            Allah pins down the wrong doers and the transgressors with disease and poverty in order that they humble themselves before God and obey diligently His ordainment. The obedience that a believer shall truthfully observe and abide by is, to spend in the cause of Allah in richness and in poverty from whatever they possess when a righteous situation demands. Generally people will get angry at even normal household expenditures while in financial straitness; that is the testing point from Allah to see how they behave and how much they believe in Him that they would be justly recompensed in accordance with their patience; and He sees how much they remember the promise of Allah that for every good deed or endurance in the path of righteousness they would be endowed with a reward ten times more; and that it would be doubled and that it would grow in multiples thereof.

                            Allah loves those who restrain their anger during the times of constraints because of their belief in the truth and loves those who pardon the people. They spend towards righteousness generously from their limited allowance without miserliness, only to please Allah. And Allah too is pleased with such of them and for them is His Grace and Providence. They shall neither worry nor grieve. Towards this end each one shall strive truthfully spending his life and stand as a model of inspiration unto others, to establish the Truth.

                            3134 Who spend in the cause of Allah during ease and hardship and who restrain anger and who pardon the people - and Allah loves the doers of good.

                            However Allah might show as proof to the people of the community, the steadfastness of the very truthful and enduring believers by testing them under His direct supervision. For others their plight might seem as a mighty and a grave situation indeed, but it is Him who made their situation seemed so easy in their minds until He made them tide over it, rewarding them a grand lasting victory. Allah is powerful over all things. Allah would make their whole life a charitable sign to others that the promise of Allah is true they would neither suffer worry nor would they grieve over the losses. To make so is easy for Allah.

                            And the Living Sign of Allah's grace for others is the life of them who find it difficult to be liberal in the cause of Allah, yet unable to move about freely in the land. An ignorant one would think them self-sufficient because of their restraint, but you will know them by their sign. They do not ask people persistently. And whatever you spend of good - indeed, Allah is Knowing of it. 2273

                            Spending our lives in the cause of Allah, each one proving a word from Him in this world to help believe the poor ignorant people, is the truthful poor due upon us, in this life.

                            salam
                            fazl

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                              Being truthful is not giving away to the poor some physical material say, money or other worldly things of pleasure. Before helping the poor with materials of this world, it is pertinent to know how to identify as to towards who Allah directs our charitable lives to turn to.

                              The obedience that a believer shall truthfully observe and abide by is, to spend in the cause of Allah in richness and in poverty from whatever they possess when a righteous situation demands.

                              Spending our lives in the cause of Allah, each one proving a word from Him in this world to help believe the poor ignorant people, is the truthful poor due upon us, in this life.

                              Salam

                              To a certain extent, the above conclusions might have some truth in it, but your explanation is deviating and does not explain the word "sadaqah" in the context of Sura (392) and (2219); i.e. our discussion.

                              Further, being "truthful" is more about doing from what you understand about life and its relation to the Qur'an. There is no target for becoming a True Muslim, and there is no need for us to copy what other peoples are doing or follow some motivational books without understanding and experiencing its true meaning (including the Qur'an - refer to 625 and 5577-79).

                              The struggling and going is the goal, and it doesn't matter where we start (or end), as long as we start somewhere and keep on improving our life and strengthening our faith.

                              How a child can grow into an adult within 1 year?

                              How to grow into timber trees from seeds within 24 hours?

                              It is not the Sunnatullah and there is no target for becoming a Muslim.

                              Hijab is not the actual requirement in the Qur'an.

                              The actual requirement in the Qur'an is for human beings to learn, understand, and reform continuously for the better (istiqamah - changes from within ourselves comes first - roots of a tree).

                              It is the process of understanding that matter, not the end results (comparison - how can one expect to be free from shirk within a short period of time? Impossible!).

                              Life and our understanding is a process, and so as how we should live "our lives in the cause of Allah".

                              It is a journey and there is "truthfulness" in every stage and situation of our life

                              .. as long we keep on improving and strengthening our faith according to the Qur'an.

                              Age Concept of Right/Wrong

                              70 Being absolutely right for the level of 70 years old person "
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                              60 Being absolutely right for the level of 60 years old person "
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                              50 Being absolutely right for the level of 50 years old person "
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                              40 Being absolutely right for the level of 40 years old person "
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                              30 Being absolutely right for the level of 30 years old person "
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                              20 Being absolutely right for the level of 20 years old person "
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                              10 Being absolutely right for the level of 10 years old person "
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                              1 Being absolutely right for the level of 1 year old baby <-- limited by our senses, abilities etc.

                              Similarly, this can be applied to certain life conditions, psychological backgrounds, personal traits, ethnic, educational backgrounds, and etc. These are all variables, and the overall consequences are the Sunnatullah, Absolute Justice.

                              Therefore, does it really matter of being right or wrong?

                              Does the above pattern of being right or wrong really matters to Allah?

                              What about those who live 1,000 years ago, where there is no proper educational system, or where people unable to read the Qur'an? Can they survive and become a real Muslim? Can we apply the same concept of right or wrong?

                              What is the actual standard to become a Muslim?

                              There are no fixed rules, and it can be the hardest things to achieve, or it can be the simplest things to achieve; which totally depends on the "Level of Shirk" within ourselves.

                              Peace

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                                Muslims,
                                Peace

                                392
                                By no means shall you attain righteousness unless you give of that which you love; and whatever you give, of a truth Allah knows it well.

                                Note We love our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives, the wealth, the business and our houses. All these comprise our lives. And we love our lives much dearer than any other thing we possess. The life of people in this world is "But play and amusement, pomp and mutual boasting and multiplying among yourselves, riches and children". Love not all these but keep in your heart high above them all Allah, His Messengers, and your life in the cause of righteousness.

                                Sadaqa is wishing good. It is wishing righteousness, in the Name of Allah, the Guide. Thus by His grace you are elevated to a degree as a sign to others. And this is living the truthful life as ordained by Allah.

                                1. We will deal next after we are finished with this. And all the rest of your post shall have to be dealt with later.

                                Peace

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                                  392
                                  By no means shall you attain righteousness unless you give of that which you love; and whatever you give, of a truth Allah knows it well.

                                  Note We love our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives, the wealth, the business and our houses. All these comprise our lives. And we love our lives much dearer than any other thing we possess. The life of people in this world is "But play and amusement, pomp and mutual boasting and multiplying among yourselves, riches and children". Love not all these but keep in your heart high above them all Allah, His Messengers, and your life in the cause of righteousness.

                                  Sadaqa is wishing good. It is wishing righteousness, in the Name of Allah, the Guide. Thus by His grace you are elevated to a degree as a sign to others. And this is living the truthful life as ordained by Allah.

                                  Salam

                                  Below is the context of that ayat, and how Allah relates "gold", "ransom" and "spend" in the way of Allah; ie. love of gold (wealth) during our life and after death.

                                  Indeed, those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers
                                  never would the capacity of the earth in gold
                                  be accepted from one of them
                                  if he would ransom himself with it
                                  For those there will be a painful punishment
                                  and they will have no helpers
                                  Never will you attain the good
                                  until you spend
                                  from that which you love
                                  And whatever you spend
                                  indeed, Allah is Knowing of it
                                  (391-92)

                                  I believe the ayat is explaining the "love of wealth (money - gold, coin, paper money etc)". Therefore, how can it be interpreted to give "our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives" in the way of Allah. They have their own free wills, and are responsible and accountable for themselves to Allah. We are not manager over them.

                                  O you who have believed
                                  upon you is yourselves
                                  Those who have gone astray will not harm you when you have been guided
                                  To Allah is you return all together
                                  then He will inform you of what you used to do
                                  (5105)

                                  (also refer to 4033)

                                  Peace.

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                                    Salam

                                    Below is the context of that ayat, and how Allah relates "gold" hypno, "ransom" and "spend" in the way of Allah; ie. love of gold (wealth) during our life and after death.

                                    Indeed, those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers
                                    never would the capacity of the earth in gold
                                    be accepted from one of them
                                    if he would ransom himself with it
                                    For those there will be a painful punishment
                                    and they will have no helpers
                                    Never will you attain the good
                                    until you spend
                                    from that which you love
                                    And whatever you spend
                                    indeed, Allah is Knowing of it
                                    (391-92)

                                    I believe the ayat is explaining the "love of wealth (money - gold, coin, paper money etc)". Therefore, how can it be interpreted to give "our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives" in the way of Allah. They have their own free wills, and are responsible and accountable for themselves to Allah. We are not manager over them.

                                    O you who have believed
                                    upon you is yourselves
                                    Those who have gone astray will not harm you when you have been guided
                                    To Allah is you return all together
                                    then He will inform you of what you used to do
                                    (5105)

                                    (also refer to 4033)

                                    Peace

                                    Salam

                                    Firstly, with reference to the understanding of the contextual application of Quran, we need to remember and know the following

                                    • Quran's ayats are not contradictory to each other.

                                    • Every ayat is supportive of and contributory to any other ayat any where in Quran.

                                    • Each ayat is explanatory to all times and all the events and all the occurrences of the past, present and future.

                                    • Any ayat should clarify to each man as to what in truth is happening around him with reference to that which is happening around him; and with reference to his individual life.

                                    • Accordingly, if Quran is a guidance to each individual from the beginning to the end of the world; and from birth to the death of each person, the context of any ayat is closely connected to each one's individualistic, and constantly changing situation of his life at any point of time; and his grade and degree of life he is living, from the heavens down to the earth.

                                    I believe the ayat is explaining the "love of wealth (money - gold, coin, paper money etc)". Therefore, how can it be interpreted to give "our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives" in the way of Allah. They have their own free wills, and are responsible and accountable for themselves to Allah. We are not manager over them.

                                    'Give' shall not mean to you giving away in ransom, but put them all and you in His Trust if your belief is, "Allah is the Only Guide". Allah loves those who put their trust in Him. When Allah loves you, you are not at all deprived of His Abundance. Such showing the Truthful Guidance to the people around by being ourselves model first, is the spending of our life, our entire life in charity.

                                    Peace.

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                                      Salam

                                      Firstly, with reference to the understanding of the contextual application of Quran, we need to remember and know the following

                                      • Quran's ayats are not contradictory to each other.

                                      • Every ayat is supportive of and contributory to any other ayat any where in Quran.

                                      • Each ayat is explanatory to all times and all the events and all the occurrences of the past, present and future.

                                      • Any ayat should clarify to each man as to what in truth is happening around him with reference to that which is happening around him; and with reference to his individual life.

                                      • Accordingly, if Quran is a guidance to each individual from the beginning to the end of the world; and from birth to the death of each person, the context of any ayat is closely connected to each one's individualistic, and constantly changing situation of his life at any point of time; and his grade and degree of life he is living, from the heavens down to the earth.

                                      'Give' shall not mean to you giving away in ransom, but put them all and you in His Trust if your belief is, "Allah is the Only Guide". Allah loves those who put their trust in Him. When Allah loves you, you are not at all deprived of His Abundance. Such showing the Truthful Guidance to the people around by being ourselves model first, is the spending of our life, our entire life in charity.

                                      Peace.

                                      RED is mine

                                      Salam

                                      I am discussing about Sura (391-92) and how Allah relates the word "spend" with "gold" and "love" (of wealth). I am not discussing about our entire "life" or the whole meaning of the Qur'an. The whole meaning of the Qur'an does not entirely depends on ayat (391-92) alone. Therefore we leave what is the meaning of the entire Qur'an and remain focuses on our discussion. As we can see, ayat (91) is the direct support for the meaning of ayat (92) and from these two ayats, the context "spend" and "love" is related to "gold". It is not related to "our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives".

                                      Therefore...

                                      Therefore, how can it be interpreted to give "our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives" in the way of Allah. They have their own free wills, and are responsible and accountable for themselves to Allah. We are not manager over them.

                                      the context of any ayat is closely connected to each one's individualistic, and constantly changing situation of his life at any point of time; and his grade and degree of life he is living, from the heavens down to the earth.

                                      There is a difference between "the context of the ayat" (Qur'anic context - words of Allah) and "what you may understood by it" (your context - your philosophy). This is what happened in the past, where the ulama are imposing their own context to the Qur'an, as it is the Qur'an (claiming absolute truth). Therefore, I believe your methodology or concept of interpretation that "the context of any ayat is closely connected to each one's individualistic" are contradicting the following ayats. It will cause deviation and division in the society since many peoples have many different interpretations of the Qur'an, according to their own desires (4523)(2543).

                                      So direct your face toward the deen, inclining to truth
                                      the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created people
                                      No change should there be in the creation of Allah (deen)
                                      That is the correct deen
                                      but most of the people do not know
                                      (3030)

                                      O you who have believed
                                      DO NOT ask about things which
                                      if they are shown to you
                                      will distress you
                                      But if you ask about them while the Qur'an is being revealed
                                      they will be shown to you
                                      Allah has pardoned that which is past
                                      and Allah is Forgiving and Forbearing
                                      (5101)

                                      And indeed, there is among them a party
                                      who alter the Scripture
                                      with their tongues
                                      so you may think it is from the Scripture
                                      but it is not from the Scripture
                                      And they say, "This is from Allah ,"
                                      but it is not from Allah
                                      And they speak untruth about Allah while they know
                                      (378)

                                      Peace

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                                        Salam

                                        Firstly, with reference to the understanding of the contextual application of Quran, we need to remember and know the following

                                        • Quran's ayats are not contradictory to each other.

                                        • Every ayat is supportive of and contributory to any other ayat any where in Quran.

                                        • Each ayat is explanatory to all times and all the events and all the occurrences of the past, present and future.

                                        • Any ayat should clarify to each man as to what in truth is happening around him with reference to that which is happening around him; and with reference to his individual life.

                                        • Accordingly, if Quran is a guidance to each individual from the beginning to the end of the world;and from birth to the death of each person, the context of any ayat is closely connected to each one's individualistic, and constantly changing situation of his life at any point of time;and his grade and degree of life he is living, from the heavens down to the earth.

                                        Peace.

                                        Peace DrFazl

                                        Your Quote reminds me of

                                        2106
                                        Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?

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                                          Peace

                                          It is true, that "Allah has power over all things", but we dont... )

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