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    ansmeh1998
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    Salaam dear brother Muslims,

    Without any doubt you have deep study of Al-Kitaab and you are equipped with profound knowledge by the Grace of Allah. I find you the right person who can deal with certain mind boggling queries appropriately confronting me for long arising out of various sources (not essential to spell out). Will you kindly permit me to ask the following questions?

    (i) Do you find resemblance of Allah's System of Governance within the Human Being? If yes, how?

    (ii) Do you find Prophets/Messengers and their tales mentioned in Quran within the Human Being? If yes, kindly explain.

    (iii) Do you find the Country named India resembles the Grand Quran? If at all yes, kindly throw light.

    (iv) Do you find the system of governance adopted by India (of course on paper) resembles Allah's System of Governance? True or False?

    (v) Do you find the Book of Allah confirms Sanskrit Scriptures considered Holy by the Hindus? True or False?

    (vi) Do you find Abraham = Brahma, Ismael = Mahesh, Ishaaq = Vishnu, Yaqub = Ganesha, Krishna = Moses, Ram = Mohammad etc.

    (vii) Do you find eating flesh of animals that survive on the Earth is unhealthy and not prescribed? True or False?

    I have put forth above questions just out of quest but do not expect to reject them in a haste. If at all you do not like them, kindly choose to ignore.

    Salaam!

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      Salam

      Interesting, Abraham, Brahma, iBrahim, Sarah, Saraswati, Black Stone, Shiva Lingam, Trishula, Mizab, Baqarah, cow, companions.... There is no need to discuss issues not related to the Qur'an and we just leave it to Allah for inspiring "the understanding of right and wrong" (917-10); since He is Al-Mu'min, The Inspirer of Faith, He is Al-Hadi, The One whom with His Guidance His believers were guided, and with His Guidance the living beings have been guided to what is beneficial for them and protected from what is harmful to them, we are not. We are servants and can only discuss from what is precise from the Qur'an.

      And when Abraham said
      "My Lord, show me how You give life to the dead."
      said, "Have you not believed?"
      He said, "Yes, but (I ask) only that my heart may be satisfied."
      said, "Take four birds and commit them to yourself.
      Then (after slaughtering them) put on each hill a portion of them
      then call them - they will come (flying) to you in haste
      And know that Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise."
      (2260)

      And you become three kinds

      Then the companions of the right
      what are the companions of the right?

      And the companions of the left
      what are the companions of the left?

      And the forerunners, the forerunners
      Those are the ones brought near
      A company of the former peoples
      And a few of the later peoples

      (567-14)

      certain mind boggling queries appropriately confronting me for long arising out of various sources (not essential to spell out)

      For the sake of testing ourselves and to realize the gods and ulamas inside ourselves, try to stop eating, drinking and sleeping for 3 straight days (72 hours). Are we able to achieve this target or we are still hypocrites? This is not suggested by the Qur'an, and only a simple self-test to prove the existence of gods and ulamas inside ourselves. A simple test to realize the flow of ideas within ourselves and how far we are able to control these ideas.

      Do the people think
      that they will be left to say,
      "We believe"
      and they will not be tried?

      But We have certainly tried those before them
      and Allah will surely make evident
      those who are truthful
      and He will surely make evident
      the liars

      Or do those who do evil deeds think they can outrun Us?
      Evil is what they judge
      (<a href="http//quran.com/29/2-4">292-4</a&gt

      Peace

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        Dear brother Muslims Salaam!

        (i) How do you know what the Quran is?
        (ii) How do you know Quran teaches what?
        (iii) How can you say Quran explains only this and not that?

        You have chosen to reject the quest in a haste probably in arrogance of having deep study or having much knowledge or for the reasons best known to you. No wonder! This is what most of the humans are. No more deliberations then, May Allah bless.

        Salaam!

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          Salam

          (i) How do you know what the Quran is?

          Indeed, IT IS A NOBLE QURAN
          In a protected Book
          None can grasp it
          except those purified (from shirk)
          (5677-79)

          (ii) How do you know Quran teaches what?

          It is He who has sent down to you, the Book
          in it are verses precise
          they are the foundation of the Book

          and others unspecific
          As for those in whose hearts is deviation
          they will follow that of it which is unspecific
          seeking discord and seeking an interpretation
          And no one knows its interpretation except Allah

          But those firm in knowledge say
          "We believe in it. All is from our Lord."
          And no one will be reminded except those of understanding
          (37)

          (iii) How can you say Quran explains only this and not that?

          O you who have believed
          DO NOT ask about things which
          if they are shown to you
          will distress you
          But if you ask about them while the Qur'an is being revealed
          they will be shown to you
          Allah has pardoned that which is past
          and Allah is Forgiving and Forbearing
          (5101)

          Rather, they have denied that
          which they encompass not in knowledge
          and whose interpretation
          has not yet come to them

          Thus did those before them deny
          Then observe how was the end of the wrongdoers
          (1039)

          Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth
          a likeness of His light is as a niche in which is a lamp
          the lamp is in a glass
          (and) the glass is as it were a brightly shining star
          lit from a blessed olive-tree
          neither eastern nor western
          the oil whereof almost gives light though fire touch it not
          light upon light
          Allah guides to His light whom He pleases
          and Allah sets forth parables for men
          and Allah is Cognizant of all things
          (2435)

          He grants wisdom to whom He pleases
          and whoever is granted wisdom
          he indeed is given a great good
          and none but men of understanding mind
          (2269)

          Peace peace

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            And when Abraham said
            "My Lord, show me how You give life to the dead."

            I wonder why Abraham asked how Allah give life "TO THE DEAD" (l-mawt&#257 ?

            How many peoples had Abraham witnessed rising from the dead? hmm

            Can Prophets rise from the dead or they are absolutely prohibited?

            (men with nine lives and nine tombstones (2), and during 1300++ (refer here), not sure whether it is true or forged, "Earthdom" might know the full story since it is in Surabaya, Indonesia)

            Or as the one who passed by a township
            which had fallen into ruin
            He said, "How will Allah bring this to life after its death?"
            So Allah caused him to die for a hundred years
            then He revived him
            He said, "How long have you remained?"
            The man said, "I have remained a day or part of a day."
            He said, "Rather, you have remained one hundred years
            Look at your food and your drink
            it has not changed with time
            And look at your donkey
            and We will make you a sign for the people
            And look at the bones
            how We raise them and then We cover them with flesh"
            And when it became clear to him, he said
            "I know that Allah is over all things competent."
            (2259)
            refer to (349) (272-73) (3050)

            The issue is there any other ayats in the Qur'an can further elaborate this precise situations?

            Is this still happening, or it will never happen after the Qur'an has been completed?

            Peace peace

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              Salaam dear brother Muslims,

              Without any doubt you have deep study of Al-Kitaab and you are equipped with profound knowledge by the Grace of Allah. I find you the right person who can deal with certain mind boggling queries appropriately confronting me for long arising out of various sources (not essential to spell out). Will you kindly permit me to ask the following questions?

              (i) Do you find resemblance of Allah's System of Governance within the Human Being? If yes, how?

              Yes. The entire universe is praising Allah's Glory and waiting for His Command to discharge its duties to man in his favour or against. 5331 And to Allah belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth - that He may recompense those who do evil with the penalty of what they have done and recompense those who do good with the best reward -

              When we wish for the favours from the heaven upon us in prayers, Allah commands the heavens thus upon whom He pleases and thus our wish and Allah's system of governance obeys us.

              (ii) Do you find Prophets/Messengers and their tales mentioned in Quran within the Human Being? If yes, kindly explain.

              Their tales involve the people and communities they lived with We have the characters in us that which is narrated as the caharacters of the community of Lut; and the evil character of Firaun we can find in most US presidents in particular and in every leader of any country in general. And then the characters of prophets we have in us too as mercy, forgiving, tolerance and so on in various degrees; of course, they are the qualities of Allah which we possess in various proportions.

              (iii) Do you find the Country named India resembles the Grand Quran? If at all yes, kindly throw light. (iv) Do you find the system of governance adopted by India (of course on paper) resembles Allah's System of Governance? True or False?

              I do not understand as to what you mean.

              (v) Do you find the Book of Allah confirms Sanskrit Scriptures considered Holy by the Hindus? True or False?

              True and false. Scripture of what language is not important; but those scriptures do have the Truths to a minimal extent as is in Quran.

              (vi) Do you find Abraham = Brahma, Ismael = Mahesh, Ishaaq = Vishnu, Yaqub = Ganesha, Krishna = Moses, Ram = Mohammad etc.

              Abraham, Ismail, Ishaq, Yacub, Musa, Muhammad are real people chosen by Allah as messengers and prophets.
              Brahma, Mahesh, Vishnu, Ganesha, Krishna are imaginary people characterised heroes by the human story tellers.

              (
              vii) Do you find eating flesh of animals that survive on the Earth is unhealthy and not prescribed? True or False?

              Eating flesh of non-vegetarian animals and birds with its blood totally drained is healthy and prescribed.

              Salaam!

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                (i) Do you find resemblance of Allah's System of Governance within the Human Being? If yes, how?

                Yes. The entire universe is praising Allah's Glory and waiting for His Command to discharge its duties to man in his favour or against. 5331 And to Allah belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth - that He may recompense those who do evil with the penalty of what they have done and recompense those who do good with the best reward -

                When we wish for the favours from the heaven upon us in prayers, Allah commands the heavens thus upon whom He pleases and thus our wish and Allah's system of governance obeys us.

                Salam

                You have misunderstood many of his questions. For example, he is asking about the similarity of our bodies and brain cells with the universe, and whether it is the door to our "memory" or knowledge (Knowledge of the Unseen).

                And He taught Adam <- Who is Adam?
                the names
                all of them
                (231)

                He said, "Did I not tell you
                that I know the unseen
                of the heavens and the earth?
                (233)

                http//7uncle.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/braincell-universe.jpg

                and his presumptions might not fully accurate, or may also departed from the true course. The mind is not the answer, so as our body and India or Lord Shiva, and in fact the galaxy (have limits and boundaryies, actually quite small). It is only the tools and mechanisms, ie. the signs. There are things that are much larger than minds and India, unimaginable and which totally dependant on each keys.

                Thinking alone will normally make us farther away from the right path

                so that we are able to project the right magnetic/electrical signals to our heart

                ie. the ability to control waves and signals, is only the beginning... Kun Faya Kun, and which this thread is all about, Justly Balanced and Unity! The Highway!

                He will indeed be successful who purifies it <- from Shirk
                And he will indeed fail who corrupts it
                (917-10)

                Peace.

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                  Human beings = Nafs + Mind + Heart + Soul

                  First group Nafs (Kapten) + Mind (Follower)
                  |
                  +
                  +----Link-----
                  |
                  Second group Heart (Kapten) + Soul (Follower)

                  Allah
                  http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                  Reality
                  (Khalif)
                  (Witnessing and understanding 99 attributes of Allah in the Universe)
                  (Only then we will understand what is "Alhamdu lillahi rabbi alAAalameen&quot
                  ( &#1605
                  http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                  Soul
                  http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                  Heart
                  (Language of the Heart)
                  (Understanding of the Qur'an)
                  (requirement = 100% obedience)
                  http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                  Mind
                  http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                  In between
                  (Top Buddhist Monk +/- ??)
                  http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                  Nafs
                  (We are here - nafs-i-ammara, or see below)
                  Scientist and Philosopher?
                  http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKi*MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
                  Animal
                  (requirement = 0% obedience)
                  (<a href="http//quran.com/7/176">7176</a&gt

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                    good_logic
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                    Peace all.

                    This reminds me of...

                    He says " Black", I say"wrong, it is shaded!"
                    He says White",I say "Wrong, it is pure white".....etc...

                    Muslims, you have your unique understanding..Dr Fazl, you have your unique understanding... each one of us has heir unique understanding...etc...

                    The oneness of God unites the individual peaceful submitters.
                    Islam is peace with the creator, peace with all God s creation and peace with yourself...

                    Peace to you all

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                      Muslims, you have your unique understanding..Dr Fazl, you have your unique understanding... each one of us has heir unique understanding...etc...

                      Salam

                      Sorry, I'm not talking about our "unique" understanding..

                      I'm talking about what is the question.

                      The question is....

                      (i) Do you find resemblance of Allah's System of Governance within the Human Being? If yes, how?

                      His answer...

                      Yes. The entire universe is praising Allah's Glory and waiting for His Command to discharge its duties to man in his favour or against. 5331 And to Allah belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth - that He may recompense those who do evil with the penalty of what they have done and recompense those who do good with the best reward.

                      What is the relation between the issue of "resemblance of System of Governance", the issue of "WITHIN" "human beings", and the issue of "Allah's system", with the answer"The entire universe is praising Allah's Glory and waiting for His Command"? hmm

                      Please take not the words "System of Governance" (govern!), "within" human beings, and "resemblance"

                      Allah's System of Governance
                      Within human being's System of Governance <- what is human beings system of governance?

                      I believe this is not about our unique understanding, but about the ability to understand the questions or issues. There is nothing "unique" for making a conclusion without understanding the question. This is equally supports by the Qur'an.

                      ?Stupidity is the same as evil if you judge by the results.? (refer to al-Anfal22)

                      I can be wrong, as always, please explains. handshake

                      Peace to you all peace

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                        Israfeel
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                        Islam is the Sunnah, and the Sunnah is Islam - Imam al Barbaharee (may Allah be pleased with him)

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                          drfazl
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                          Salam

                          I'm talking about what is the question.

                          The question is....

                          Do you find resemblance of Allah's System of Governance within the Human Being? If yes, how?

                          What is the relation between the issue of "resemblance of System of Governance", the issue of "WITHIN" "human beings", and the issue of "Allah's system", with the answer"The entire universe is praising Allah's Glory and waiting for His Command"?

                          First of all there is no issue here for you to judge and settle as if you know threadbare a-z of Allah's System of governance and human beings' system of governance.

                          Before you understand the question,
                          first understand the meaning of the word "Resemblance"
                          Your irrelevant word, "Relation" is not the question here!

                          Thus as usaual your whole answer has gone haywire.

                          peace

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                            drfazl
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                            Salam

                            Allah's System of Governance
                            Within human being's System of Governance <- what is human beings system of governance?

                            I can be wrong, as always, please explains. handshake

                            Peace to you all

                            I am coming to your red area Please say how in an individual, from his hair tip to toe nail; and from his skin to bones, the human system is related, inter related, their cohesiveness, their symbiosis, their incompatibility, their inconsistencies, their aberration, their physiology, their pathology, their adjustments, their reactions, their sensitivity, his homeostasis within and many more ...

                            Please, first talk about human system, then its governance leave alone universal system and governance. You can never reach for an answer unless you have unique understanding ability. In your case it is far away. Keep groping the dictionaries and you will find yourself still far away remote.

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                              diamantinehoneybunch
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                              Islam is the Sunnah, and the Sunnah is Islam - Imam al Barbaharee (may Allah be pleased with him)

                              The sunnah (which I am pretty sure you meant the hadiths written by Mr Bukhari & Co) is not islam. The sunna is sexism, intolerance, violence. Pakhtunkhwa region in Pakistan-Afghanistan is good example to see how people in the region practise the so-called sunnah.


                              Peace be upon you, brethren!

                              Islam is all about submission to GOD, doing good and avoid vice.

                              Regards,
                              Yuliana

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                                muslims
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                                You can never reach for an answer unless you have unique understanding ability. In your case it is far away.

                                Salam

                                I must admit, I don't have this "unique understanding ability".

                                (i) Do you find resemblance of Allah's System of Governance within the Human Being? If yes, how?

                                Yes. The entire universe is praising Allah's Glory and waiting for His Command to discharge its duties to man in his favour or against.

                                Peace peace

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                                  ansmeh1998
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                                  I wonder why Abraham asked how Allah give life "TO THE DEAD" (l-mawt&#257 ?

                                  Dear brother Muslims Salaam!

                                  I guess if you have studied Chemistry and have heard about "CARBON". Kindly have a mull in the skull, maybe you will get to know (InshaAllah) as to how the answer provided by Allah to the ambitious query of Ibrahim as mentioned in the verse 2260 has a deep and sustained meaning for the benefit of ............

                                  But before that if you could have a thought over the verse 51 of Arabic version of The Book, InshaAllah that would lead you to know the keys to numerous locks and to establish a Sigma Bond with The Book. Allow me to throw an understanding of the verse (51) to you with the request to improve it further, as per your own acumen

                                  "O people, who have taken oath to remain faithful, adhere to the principles of bonding! Permissible for you are the substances with attuned alignment except that are arranged out of unauthorized poaching and that which are not at all compatible. Indeed Allah decrees what is deemed fit."

                                  (Carrier/Donor ? Receiver)

                                  Salaam!

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                                    muslims
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                                    Islam is the Sunnah, and the Sunnah is Islam - Imam al Barbaharee (may Allah be pleased with him)

                                    Salam

                                    Why? hmm

                                    (REFER HERE)

                                    Peace

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                                      Dear brother Muslims Salaam!

                                      I guess if you have studied Chemistry and have heard about "CARBON". Kindly have a mull in the skull, maybe you will get to know (InshaAllah) as to how the answer provided by Allah to the ambitious query of Ibrahim as mentioned in the verse 2260 has a deep and sustained meaning for the benefit of ............

                                      But before that if you could have a thought over the verse 51 of Arabic version of The Book, InshaAllah that would lead you to know the keys to numerous locks and to establish a Sigma Bond with The Book. Allow me to throw an understanding of the verse (51) to you with the request to improve it further, as per your own acumen

                                      "O people, who have taken oath to remain faithful, adhere to the principles of bonding! Permissible for you are the substances with attuned alignment except that are arranged out of unauthorized poaching and that which are not at all compatible. Indeed Allah decrees what is deemed fit."

                                      (Carrier/Donor ? Receiver)

                                      Salaam!

                                      Dear brother ansmeh1998 Salaam!

                                      Do explain your point.. I have no idea on your conclusion and may it bring new perspective to the discussion. My understanding is quite simple, it is all "matter" and is equal to all living things (ie. 1), whether it is big, small, an atom, smaller than an atom or even space. It is existence. Equally, bonding, meanings and even wishing for something or the slightest feeling is not "0". "0" means "0", death, and death is the reality.

                                      Say, "He is Allah, One
                                      1121

                                      Peace.

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                                        Islam is the Sunnah, and the Sunnah is Islam - Imam al Barbaharee (may Allah be pleased with him)

                                        I know. True.

                                        But that's not what is being discussed in the thread. What is discussed is 'islam' as described in the quran. We are not discussing the world religion Islam, which happens to have hijacked that arabic word and made it into a name for itself.

                                        Barbaharee's Islam, and that which is described as 'islam' in arabic in the Quran, are two in essence entirely different things.

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                                          Dear brother Muslims Salaam!

                                          Kindly have a thought over -

                                          (i) 396 (mina al-anAAami thamaniyata azwajin) ( )

                                          ..........................1 (e.g. Na)
                                          ..........................2 (e.g. Mg)
                                          ..........................3 (e.g. Al)
                                          ..........................4 (e.g. C)
                                          ..........................5 (e.g. N)
                                          ..........................6 (e.g. O)
                                          ..........................7 (e.g. Cl)
                                          ..........................8 (e.g. Ar)

                                          (ii) 6142 (Wamina al-anAAami hamoolatan wafarshan) ( &#1575 -

                                          Carrier/ Doner - Receiver.

                                          1(+) (e.g. Na)
                                          2(+)
                                          3(+)
                                          4(+)
                                          1(-) (e.g. Cl)
                                          2(-)
                                          3(-)
                                          4(-)


                                          Total - 8

                                          (iii) 6143-4 (Thamaniyata azwajin ( )

                                          .------. (..)
                                          ..------.. (....)
                                          ...------... (......)
                                          ....------.... (........)

                                          (iv) 43

                                          e.g. (i) Na-Cl (.----.) (ii) Mg-Cl2 (..----..) (iii) Al-Cl3 (...----...) (iv) C-Cl4 (....----....)

                                          (v) 415

                                          e.g. C-H4, NH4 ....

                                          (vi) 2260

                                          e.g. C-C-C-C-C

                                          ...................
                                          ...................

                                          Salaam!

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