What is HIKMA ?
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peace,
Here is my simple view
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=14594.msg135168#msg135168salaam Wakas
i agree also with what you said. I think however that you are speaking of higher grades/stages/darajat of Hikma.
683 And such was Our argument that We gave Abraham over his people; We raise the degree of whom We please. Your Lord is Wise, Knowledgeable.
of course, highest ranks are reserved
4015 Possessor of the highest ranks, the One with the Throne. He sends the Spirit with His command upon whom He wills from His servants, that they may warn of the Day of Summoning.Lessons and insights are , by definition, generally written between the lines. Many interpretations are sometimes allowed at the same time.
i think however that first "grade" would be discerning true meanings from false meaning. Searching for lessons can help in this task.
12111 In their stories (of prophets) is a lesson (ibra) for those who possess intelligence. It is not a narration that has been invented, but an authentication of what is between his hands and a detailing of all things, and a guidance and a mercy for a people who believe.
the ability to extract ibra/lesson is, i , think a higher and more complex stage of wisdom.
2444 God rotates the night and the day. In that is a (ibra)lesson for those who have insight.
ibra is also in nature. The other "writing" of God.
probably, higher than lessons, there is "reasons". the Why ?it seems to me that there is many hidden things/secrets in quran. A book with multiple entries.
Peace
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Hikma, I understand, is the capacity to use knowledge properly, to follow the guidance,contained for instance in the Qur'an in the proper way. To have the disernment to use whatever is appropriate of it to the appropriate circumstance. In that sense, yes, it is wisdom. The guidance and de ability to use it. It is given to the prophets, it is given to many people to. But obviously the first ones who had to be gifted with that would have to be the very prophets. To use the guidance without hikma we might be like that donkey loaded with books.
Like punishment and forgiveness. Forgiveness is better, but punishment does have a use. So it would be hikma what would allows us to discard punishment where fireness would be better and to apply punishment where it would be more appropriate.
Salaam
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Hikma, I understand, is the capacity to use knowledge properly, to follow the guidance,contained for instance in the Qur'an in the proper way. To have the disernment to use whatever is appropriate of it to the appropriate circumstance. In that sense, yes, it is wisdom. The guidance and de ability to use it. It is given to the prophets, it is given to many people to. But obviously the first ones who had to be gifted with that would have to be the very prophets. To use the guidance without hikma we might be like that donkey loaded with books.
Like punishment and forgiveness. Forgiveness is better, but punishment does have a use. So it would be hikma what would allows us to discard punishment where fireness would be better and to apply punishment where it would be more appropriate.
Salaam
"Hikma, I understand, is the capacity to use knowledge properly"
And how did you come to this understanding?
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"Hikma, I understand, is the capacity to use knowledge properly"
And how did you come to this understanding?
I feel that this understanding is very sensible. Having knowledge but using it improperly, is anything but wise. What huruf also is saying (if I'm not mistaken... she can tell us) is that "using knowledge properly" implies that we use the knowledge for the good, constructive and positive ends, in a deliberate and conscious way.
Having knowledge, but being ignorant about how things (cause and effect) are connected, will result in random outcomes, some excellent, some good, some bad, some disastrous... it's like a gamble when we cannot foresee the results of our actions. This is ignorance, and thus not wisdom.
Having knowledge, and being able to foresee the outcomes of one's actions, but only using it for one's own gain and benefit... is selfish and destructive and against the system of nature/God. Although perhaps intelligent (in an IQ sense) it would not be called wise.
So, having knowledge, and being able to foresee the consequences of acting upon this knowledge, and then applying it in the best ways to maximize benefit for all involved, would be called wise.
Peace
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probably, higher than lessons, there is "reasons". the Why ?
Absolutely! The purpose/function is often forgotten, and people can only see the shape/form. Especially in religion. Religion seem to me to be all about form, and nothing about reason, function and purpose. Without the reason/function, the whole spirit is gone and it all becomes empty, useless and a wasteful play.
it seems to me that there is many hidden things/secrets in quran. A book with multiple entries.
.... and those secrets will be revealed as we grow in understanding/maturity/purity. And of course, this has nothing to do with scholarship.
Peace
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I feel that this understanding is very sensible. Having knowledge but using it improperly, is anything but wise. What huruf also is saying (if I'm not mistaken... she can tell us) is that "using knowledge properly" implies that we use the knowledge for the good, constructive and positive ends, in a deliberate and conscious way.
Having knowledge, but being ignorant about how things (cause and effect) are connected, will result in random outcomes, some excellent, some good, some bad, some disastrous... it's like a gamble when we cannot foresee the results of our actions. This is ignorance, and thus not wisdom.
Having knowledge, and being able to foresee the outcomes of one's actions, but only using it for one's own gain and benefit... is selfish and destructive and against the system of nature/God. Although perhaps intelligent (in an IQ sense) it would not be called wise.
So, having knowledge, and being able to foresee the consequences of acting upon this knowledge, and then applying it in the best ways to maximize benefit for all involved, would be called wise.
Peace
I asked a specific question - how are you defining Hikmah - where from? Sources?
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I feel that this understanding is very sensible. Having knowledge but using it improperly, is anything but wise. What huruf also is saying (if I'm not mistaken... she can tell us) is that "using knowledge properly" implies that we use the knowledge for the good, constructive and positive ends, in a deliberate and conscious way.
Having knowledge, but being ignorant about how things (cause and effect) are connected, will result in random outcomes, some excellent, some good, some bad, some disastrous... it's like a gamble when we cannot foresee the results of our actions. This is ignorance, and thus not wisdom.
Having knowledge, and being able to foresee the outcomes of one's actions, but only using it for one's own gain and benefit... is selfish and destructive and against the system of nature/God. Although perhaps intelligent (in an IQ sense) it would not be called wise.
So, having knowledge, and being able to foresee the consequences of acting upon this knowledge, and then applying it in the best ways to maximize benefit for all involved, would be called wise.
Peace
Salaamun alayka bro,
Excellent post!!!
In short judge in Allahs way.Salaam,
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salaam all
i thank you for your comments. Thinking about Hikma is certainly a good thing for wisdom.
i think however there is something forgotten.
Quran clearly says that Hikma is something teached by messengers and anbiyas.However anbiyas cannot teach their own teachings. They would be arbabs (plural of Rabb).
Hikma is then neither teaching, neither science (ilm).
Hikma is then probably linked to kind of methodology showing how to deal with such a thingsso let ask the question in another way
How can a nabi teach hikma ?Peace
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Conclude My Favour/Grace/boon like the obliging beneficence that We sent among you as a Messenger who has been a perpetual Monotheist Believer-Muslim amongst you.
He recites word by word-syllable by syllable to you people Our Aa'ya'at unitary verbal passages of the Book conveying information and facts.
And he intellectually uplifts-sanctifies you people removes shackles of conjectural myths- distortions in belief.
And he educates you to read and write the recited text imparting the knowledge of the Book; and he teaches you to attain the wisdom-capability to perceive information about invisible realities.
Realize it; he the Messenger Muhammad imparts you the information-knowledge which hitherto you did not have.
http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.032/1.Hakimo%20Ha%20Kaaf%20Meem/3.gif Noun Definite; singular; feminine; Accusative. This denotes the wisdom; the faculty and capability to perceive the invisible information/data; differentiate and delineate between conjecture and fact, falsity and truth. It is the reading that exposes people to the accumulated wisdom of human civilization.
Translation after grammatical parsing of sentences 2151
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How can a nabi teach hikma ?
Peace
peace,
he observes what is intuited in his heart. he verifies it in his life. he then teaches the believers how to observe the intuition in their heart and verify it in their life. the more they observe, the more pious and god-fearing they become, they feel the nearness of God, their Lord.
peace.
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Peace,
Wisdom is the ability to "see" and discern what is correct, best, sensible, for the wise one "understands",
concludes, from "experience" and "knowledge" what is "truth" that endures and what ultimately brings
"enlightenment" and peace.James 15
5 If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him.God bless
peace
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Seek His Nearness and Guidance and protection from the evil one and his followers.
Peace
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Hikmah is the Sunnah. But those whose hearts are blinded will never see.
...so wisdom is to eat with the right hand, to shave the genitals and mustache but let the beard grow uncontrolled, to wear green/black/white turbans, wear shortened pants (or shove them into the socks) and to sit squatted while drinking water??? And whomever does not necessarily find this to be wisdom, has a blind heart??? rotfl rotfl
Sorry, this post of mine was very useless and not constructive at all... but I was weak and wrote it anyway. Apologies.
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...so wisdom is to eat with the right hand, to shave the genitals and mustache but let the beard grow uncontrolled, to wear green/black/white turbans, wear shortened pants (or shove them into the socks) and to sit squatted while drinking water??? And whomever does not necessarily find this to be wisdom, has a blind heart??? rotfl rotfl
Sorry, this post of mine was very useless and not constructive at all... but I was weak and wrote it anyway. Apologies.
PeaceYes it is wisdom to eat with the right hand, since you cleanse yourself after answering the call of nature with your left hand.
Unless the Hadith-rejecters eat with the same hand they use to cleanse themselves after answering the call of nature?? rotfl
And yes it is wisdom to shave your pubic hair, armpit hair and your mustache. That is basic hygiene taught by Islam and its actually common sense. A big mustache means hair will get into your lips and mouth which is not hygienic. This is beautiful Wisdom!
May Allah grant you the blessing to accept His beautiful wisdom and the beautiful wisdom of his Pure Prophet. Ameen
(p.s. Hadith-rejecters do not believe in saying 'Ameen' with prayers)
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Hikmah is a wisdom written in the Quran.
-2.269 AL Hikmah also a blessing from Quranic God for some choosen people to understand Quran ( until they create some confused theories in some boards rotfl )
Peace
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Peace All.
!Hikma" is not claiming you know it or have it.Just use it in your life
Peace all.
