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What is HIKMA ?

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    Zulf
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    "Hikma, I understand, is the capacity to use knowledge properly"

    And how did you come to this understanding?

    I feel that this understanding is very sensible. Having knowledge but using it improperly, is anything but wise. What huruf also is saying (if I'm not mistaken... she can tell us) is that "using knowledge properly" implies that we use the knowledge for the good, constructive and positive ends, in a deliberate and conscious way.

    Having knowledge, but being ignorant about how things (cause and effect) are connected, will result in random outcomes, some excellent, some good, some bad, some disastrous... it's like a gamble when we cannot foresee the results of our actions. This is ignorance, and thus not wisdom.

    Having knowledge, and being able to foresee the outcomes of one's actions, but only using it for one's own gain and benefit... is selfish and destructive and against the system of nature/God. Although perhaps intelligent (in an IQ sense) it would not be called wise.

    So, having knowledge, and being able to foresee the consequences of acting upon this knowledge, and then applying it in the best ways to maximize benefit for all involved, would be called wise.

    Peace

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      Zulf
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      probably, higher than lessons, there is "reasons". the Why ?

      Absolutely! The purpose/function is often forgotten, and people can only see the shape/form. Especially in religion. Religion seem to me to be all about form, and nothing about reason, function and purpose. Without the reason/function, the whole spirit is gone and it all becomes empty, useless and a wasteful play.

      it seems to me that there is many hidden things/secrets in quran. A book with multiple entries.

      .... and those secrets will be revealed as we grow in understanding/maturity/purity. And of course, this has nothing to do with scholarship.

      Peace

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        The_Chimp
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        I feel that this understanding is very sensible. Having knowledge but using it improperly, is anything but wise. What huruf also is saying (if I'm not mistaken... she can tell us) is that "using knowledge properly" implies that we use the knowledge for the good, constructive and positive ends, in a deliberate and conscious way.

        Having knowledge, but being ignorant about how things (cause and effect) are connected, will result in random outcomes, some excellent, some good, some bad, some disastrous... it's like a gamble when we cannot foresee the results of our actions. This is ignorance, and thus not wisdom.

        Having knowledge, and being able to foresee the outcomes of one's actions, but only using it for one's own gain and benefit... is selfish and destructive and against the system of nature/God. Although perhaps intelligent (in an IQ sense) it would not be called wise.

        So, having knowledge, and being able to foresee the consequences of acting upon this knowledge, and then applying it in the best ways to maximize benefit for all involved, would be called wise.

        Peace

        I asked a specific question - how are you defining Hikmah - where from? Sources?

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          Zulf
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          I asked a specific question - how are you defining Hikmah - where from? Sources?

          I know. Let's wait for her answer.
          Peace

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            Bender
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            I feel that this understanding is very sensible. Having knowledge but using it improperly, is anything but wise. What huruf also is saying (if I'm not mistaken... she can tell us) is that "using knowledge properly" implies that we use the knowledge for the good, constructive and positive ends, in a deliberate and conscious way.

            Having knowledge, but being ignorant about how things (cause and effect) are connected, will result in random outcomes, some excellent, some good, some bad, some disastrous... it's like a gamble when we cannot foresee the results of our actions. This is ignorance, and thus not wisdom.

            Having knowledge, and being able to foresee the outcomes of one's actions, but only using it for one's own gain and benefit... is selfish and destructive and against the system of nature/God. Although perhaps intelligent (in an IQ sense) it would not be called wise.

            So, having knowledge, and being able to foresee the consequences of acting upon this knowledge, and then applying it in the best ways to maximize benefit for all involved, would be called wise.

            Peace

            Salaamun alayka bro,

            Excellent post!!!
            In short judge in Allahs way.

            Salaam,
            Bender

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              DrGm
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              peace,

              wisdom is observing with patience the happenings and the result being good. if the happenings you see is bad you have not still attained wisdom.

              peace.

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                noshirk
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                salaam all

                i thank you for your comments. Thinking about Hikma is certainly a good thing for wisdom.
                i think however there is something forgotten.
                Quran clearly says that Hikma is something teached by messengers and anbiyas.

                However anbiyas cannot teach their own teachings. They would be arbabs (plural of Rabb).

                Hikma is then neither teaching, neither science (ilm).
                Hikma is then probably linked to kind of methodology showing how to deal with such a things

                so let ask the question in another way
                How can a nabi teach hikma ?

                Peace

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                  Mazhar
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                  Conclude My Favour/Grace/boon like the obliging beneficence that We sent among you as a Messenger who has been a perpetual Monotheist Believer-Muslim amongst you.

                  He recites word by word-syllable by syllable to you people Our Aa'ya'at unitary verbal passages of the Book conveying information and facts.

                  And he intellectually uplifts-sanctifies you people removes shackles of conjectural myths- distortions in belief.

                  And he educates you to read and write the recited text imparting the knowledge of the Book; and he teaches you to attain the wisdom-capability to perceive information about invisible realities.

                  Realize it; he the Messenger Muhammad imparts you the information-knowledge which hitherto you did not have.

                  http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.032/1.Hakimo%20Ha%20Kaaf%20Meem/3.gif Noun Definite; singular; feminine; Accusative. This denotes the wisdom; the faculty and capability to perceive the invisible information/data; differentiate and delineate between conjecture and fact, falsity and truth. It is the reading that exposes people to the accumulated wisdom of human civilization.

                  Translation after grammatical parsing of sentences 2151

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                    DrGm
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                    How can a nabi teach hikma ?

                    Peace

                    peace,

                    he observes what is intuited in his heart. he verifies it in his life. he then teaches the believers how to observe the intuition in their heart and verify it in their life. the more they observe, the more pious and god-fearing they become, they feel the nearness of God, their Lord.

                    peace.

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                      hawk99
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                      Peace,

                      Wisdom is the ability to "see" and discern what is correct, best, sensible, for the wise one "understands",
                      concludes, from "experience" and "knowledge" what is "truth" that endures and what ultimately brings
                      "enlightenment" and peace.

                      James 15
                      5 If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him.

                      God bless

                      peace

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                        Man_of_Faith
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                        Seek His Nearness and Guidance and protection from the evil one and his followers.

                        Peace

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                          Israfeel
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                          Hikmah is the Sunnah. But those whose hearts are blinded will never see.

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                            Zulf
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                            Hikmah is the Sunnah. But those whose hearts are blinded will never see.

                            ...so wisdom is to eat with the right hand, to shave the genitals and mustache but let the beard grow uncontrolled, to wear green/black/white turbans, wear shortened pants (or shove them into the socks) and to sit squatted while drinking water??? And whomever does not necessarily find this to be wisdom, has a blind heart??? rotfl rotfl

                            Sorry, this post of mine was very useless and not constructive at all... but I was weak and wrote it anyway. Apologies.
                            Peace

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                              Israfeel
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                              ...so wisdom is to eat with the right hand, to shave the genitals and mustache but let the beard grow uncontrolled, to wear green/black/white turbans, wear shortened pants (or shove them into the socks) and to sit squatted while drinking water??? And whomever does not necessarily find this to be wisdom, has a blind heart??? rotfl rotfl

                              Sorry, this post of mine was very useless and not constructive at all... but I was weak and wrote it anyway. Apologies.
                              Peace

                              Yes it is wisdom to eat with the right hand, since you cleanse yourself after answering the call of nature with your left hand.

                              Unless the Hadith-rejecters eat with the same hand they use to cleanse themselves after answering the call of nature?? rotfl

                              And yes it is wisdom to shave your pubic hair, armpit hair and your mustache. That is basic hygiene taught by Islam and its actually common sense. A big mustache means hair will get into your lips and mouth which is not hygienic. This is beautiful Wisdom!

                              May Allah grant you the blessing to accept His beautiful wisdom and the beautiful wisdom of his Pure Prophet. Ameen

                              (p.s. Hadith-rejecters do not believe in saying 'Ameen' with prayers)

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                                unknownuser
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                                Hikmah is a wisdom written in the Quran.

                                -2.269 AL Hikmah also a blessing from Quranic God for some choosen people to understand Quran ( until they create some confused theories in some boards rotfl )

                                Peace

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                                  good_logic
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                                  Peace All.

                                  !Hikma" is not claiming you know it or have it.Just use it in your life

                                  Peace all.

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