I am God / Allah
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I have asked you repeatedly - but you refuse to answer. And this question is serious
How do you assess what is from God and what isn't? Other than by Quran? Else, as I pointed out before - how are your messages any different from those of the Australian Jesus.
The issue here is that you do not believe that I follow the Message or The Book. I only mirror what is written in The Book for most part or it is paraphrasing if not pure copy&paste.
Red I am not sure why you compare me with some Australian "Jesus", and I do not even know what the man is preaching. If it would be to put your Faith in God and do good then I support him, although I would say that he could choose a better name for himself.
Blue This is a pretty silly question, is it not? How do you confirm anything without the help from God in the jungle of falsehood out there?In a way you do. How else do you think the Quran has been preserved. No one follows the Hadith - without proper and due care, analysis and assessment. This is why your arguments and stance is so lacking, insincere and shallow. It is just laziness - you do not really know what you are rejecting and why. In other words - you are just another sheep following others.
Now - if you can do try to answer rather than once more avoiding. . .
It does not matter how much you argue about your hadith, I will not follow it. I have read some of the hadith, but I have rejected it as garbage. And why do you say I am a sheep following others, that is ignorant to say the least. I come from an atheist background and I discovered about God based on my own thinking and I did not truly begin to study the Bible until I was in my 20's and I read The Book (Qur'an) first when I was 27 and I have accepted God's system and I do not make it more complicated than it is. I began a little with your practices when I was a bit foolish 4 years ago, but I broke the Satanic ties early after a few months and begged God's pardon. And now I do not do much more differently than when I was believing before I encountered The Book (Qur'an) for the first time. It has strengthened my Faith and I am certain about God now compared to that I had some doubts about my own Faith those years ago. I know God is really real and I fear Him lest I do wrong. Your dogma, zealotry or Islam will not change me into the religion "Islam".
Call it that I am not a Muslim or whatever you like. I follow God's system and the inspiration I gain from Him and I submit to The Lord and I pray that I am not misled. If I am misled it is I that am guilty and I do not make others guilty. I trust that all the good that I do and my struggle to become a good soul will avail me and that God will see me worthy of Guidance when I have sought His Nearness.
But I do not want to mix Truth with falsehood so I reject the hadith which I consider wicked to say the least. I am not even following strange writings of the Bible, nor weird interpretations of The Book.
Also, I have asked you this before - if you have a private belief system which is just limited to you - then why do you air it on a public forum?
I have to learn not to lose my patience and go into petty quarrels with people like you, but in fact the reasons I go unto this forum to preach the Message is because I take it as part of my service to God and that I see it as right. It is part of my private time and I could do something else instead of using my hours on this, but it is how I choose to be part of my service as well as doing good and being helpful when I do not sit here. And it is truly in vain to sit here and just argue with you.
I will likely regret spending an hour of my spare time with this response. It will likely be in vain.
It is why I usually only reply with "Peace" or something short to your aggressive and unfriendly remarks. Perhaps I see that I can guide you too, but verily I cannot unless The Lord wills. Likely I am better off with the reply "peace" than this.
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The issue is not about me . . . but what about the Quran is saying . . . angels prostate to Adam, and they are believers.
Believers should obey God.
For example believers are ordered not to eat pork except if badly in need,such as forced to or no other sources of food.
Believers should not prostrate for example to anyone on earth even the messengers of God,no one will prostrate for a messenger of God.
God ordered the Angels to prostrate for Adam and they have to obey and they did except Iblis refused out of arrogance which isn't that different from the disbelievers whom think that they are Gods.
One day i asked an atheist "will you pray to God if you know for sure that he does exist"
He said No i won't listen to him,he has no right to force me to worship him just because he had created me.
i asked him if for example you are requested to pray each day with daily payment of 1000 USD, and his answer was "no i won't accept".
It looks to me as a suicide and they want all others to follow them and they are trying hard in doing so.
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Peace FearGod,
One day i asked an atheist "will you pray to God if you know for sure that he does exist"
He said No i won't listen to him,he has no right to force me to worship him just because he had created me.
i asked him if for example you are requested to pray each day with daily payment of 1000 USD, and his answer was "no i won't accept".
Incredible. Talk about respect for someone who made you. No wonder children/teenagers often treat their parents like garbage. The problem is that many people who are atheists have a faulty perspective of what God is and think He is a tyrant who sits on a Heavenly throne expecting an unfriendly environment. To know that God exist ought to be an incitement to just serve the Lord out of love to Him. I am so glad that I am aware of God's existence and have full certainty.
God bless you
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Firstly, the angels did "object" . . .
And when your Lord said to the angels
"Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority."
They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood
while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?"
(2.30)No that isn't an objection but a question (Will you ?)
God answered the question "Verily, I know that which you do not know." (230)Where is the objection ?
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Did the malaika/controllers make sujud/obedience like this
http//www.koreanbuddhism.net/data/1/board/85/376/200604031144088157.jpg
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http//www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/67825-2/abr.jpg
I am witnessing the sujud/obedience of the malaika / controllers to Adam/man/me everyday, but it is never like the prostration you speak of.
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Did the malaika/controllers make sujud/obedience like this
http//www.koreanbuddhism.net/data/1/board/85/376/200604031144088157.jpg
http//blog.adw.org/wp-content/uploads/prostration-0fc6a.jpg
http//www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/67825-2/abr.jpg
I am witnessing the sujud/obedience of the malaika / controllers to Adam/man/me everyday, but it is never like the prostration you speak of.
hahaha, very nice post yay rotfl bravo
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Peace FearGod,
Incredible. Talk about respect for someone who made you. No wonder children/teenagers often treat their parents like garbage. The problem is that many people who are atheists have a faulty perspective of what God is and think He is a tyrant who sits on a Heavenly throne expecting an unfriendly environment. To know that God exist ought to be an incitement to just serve the Lord out of love to Him. I am so glad that I am aware of God's existence and have full certainty.
God bless you
Peace Man of Faith,
Yes brother, life is very short and the prophet warned people till his last days on earth to be aware of the judgement day, God bless us all.
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Xc1MfX9X8
God indeed guides who deserves the guidance.
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xhZ00xnHIA
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSYgxofw-b4
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It is funny that you questioned the creator why he makes someone to be poor.
Did you ask yourself why God promised Israel to be a great nation ?
Where did I questioned the Creator for making someone poor . . rotfl
It is funny to see how people like to jump into the discussion without understanding the issue . . .
What I'm saying is about the law of causation . . the law of causality
the CAUSE (Allah) and EFFECT (it is we who answer peoples' prayers and deliver the cause (being grateful) . . servants of Allah) . .
Therefore the issue is . . yes Allah answers peoples' prayers . . but how . . ?
This is the issue . . Isn't it through us?
or you can see Allah send you food every day directly from the sky?
or you existed in this world out of nowhere?
No human beings . . no angels . . no everything.
So who delivered all this cause?
Just Allah . . ? ;D
Living in dreams and waiting for Allah to answer your prayers while doing nothing . . and without needing to be grateful
In actuality, Allah is the cause , and it is YOU who delivered and answered your own prayers . . .
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
until they change what is in themselves <- effect
(13.11)Therefore . . .
Who will answer their prayers?
Who will give them food?
Allah?
How?
Show me . . .
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hahaha, very nice post yay rotfl bravo
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Peace, and thank you ,
I dont get much out of your one-liners brother, I do not know what is in your heart or mind so please type it down for me if you wish to make me understand you better. No hard-feelings, no insult intended. )
PS; why do some believers here insult the Informant of God by Calling him prophet/soothsayer?
Prophet
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A person who speaks by divine inspiration or as the interpreter through whom the will of a god is expressed.
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A person gifted with profound moral insight and exceptional powers of expression.
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A predictor; a soothsayer.
http//www.thefreedictionary.com/prophet
Soothsayer One who claims to be able to foretell events or predict the future; a seer.
http//www.thefreedictionary.com/soothsayer
6938 So I do swear by what you see.
6939 And what you do not see.
6940 This is the utterance of an honorable messenger.
6941 It is not the utterance of a poet; rarely do you believe.
6942 Nor the utterance of a soothsayer; rarely do you take heed.
6943 A revelation from the Lord of the worlds.
6944 And had he attributed anything falsely to Us.
6945 We would have seized him by the right.
6946 Then, We would have severed his life-line.
6947 None of you would be able to prevent it.
6948 And this is a reminder for the righteous.
6949 And We know that some of you are deniers.
6950 And that it is a distress for the rejecters.
6951 And it is the absolute truth.
6952 Therefore, you shall glorify the name of your Lord, the Great. -
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In actuality, Allah is the cause , and it is YOU who delivered and answered your own prayers . . .
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
until they change what is in themselves <- effect
(13.11)I very much agree with you on this one!
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Where did I questioned the Creator for making someone poor . . rotfl
It is funny to see how people like to jump into the discussion without understanding the issue . . .
What I'm saying is about the law of causation . . the law of causality
the CAUSE (Allah) and EFFECT (it is we who answer peoples' prayers and deliver the cause (being grateful) . . servants of Allah) . .
Therefore the issue is . . yes Allah answers peoples' prayers . . but how . . ?
This is the issue . . Isn't it through us?
or you can see Allah send you food every day directly from the sky?
or you existed in this world out of nowhere?
No human beings . . no angels . . no everything.
Who delivered all this cause?
Just Allah . . ? ;D
Living in dreams and waiting for Allah to answer your prayers while doing nothing . . and without needing to be grateful
In actuality, Allah is the cause , and it is YOU who delivered and answered your own prayers . . .
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
until they change what is in themselves <- effect
(13.11)Who said to you that God doesn't answer our prayers.
For him are angels ranged before him and behind him, who guard him by Allah's command. Lo! Allah changeth not the condition of a folk until they (first) change that which is in their hearts; and if Allah willeth misfortune for a folk there is none that can repel it, nor have they a defender beside Him. (1311)
We have our own free will for which path we choose, and hence it isn't rational to ask God to help you while you aren't willing so.
For example God warned that he may punish one nation if permitted prostitution and hence no one can stop God's wrath while prostitution is going on.
The Prophet said ?Never does sexual perversion become widespread and publicly known in certain people without them being overtaken by plague and disease that never happened to their ancestors who came before them.?(Reported by Ibn Majah.) He (peace be upon him) also said
?Whenever adultery becomes a widespread phenomena among certain people, death will spread among them.?(Reported by Malik.)"Mischief has appeared on land and sea because of (the meed) that the hands of men have earned, that Allah may give them a taste of some of their deeds in order that they may turn back (from evil)."(3041)
More Than 110 Million Americans Have an STD Report
Reference http//health.usnews.com/health-news/news/articles/2013/02/14/more-than-110-million-americans-have-an-std-reportWatch how God answer sincere prayers but i know that won't work with you except if you are willing to open your heart for forgiveness.
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gr54pYc3Ak
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The Prophet said ?Never does sexual perversion become widespread and publicly known in certain people without them being overtaken by plague and disease that never happened to their ancestors who came before them.?(Reported by Ibn Majah.) He (peace be upon him) also said
?Whenever adultery becomes a widespread phenomena among certain people, death will spread among them.?(Reported by Malik.)What does the prophet say about Amsterdam?
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Where did I questioned the Creator for making someone poor . . rotfl
It is funny to see how people like to jump into the discussion without understanding the issue . . .
What I'm saying is about the law of causation . . the law of causality
the CAUSE (Allah) and EFFECT (it is we who answer peoples' prayers and deliver the cause (being grateful) . . servants of Allah) . .
Therefore the issue is . . yes Allah answers peoples' prayers . . but how . . ?
This is the issue . . Isn't it through us?
or you can see Allah send you food every day directly from the sky?
or you existed in this world out of nowhere?
No human beings . . no angels . . no everything.
So who delivered all this cause?
Just Allah . . ? ;D
Living in dreams and waiting for Allah to answer your prayers while doing nothing . . and without needing to be grateful
In actuality, Allah is the cause , and it is YOU who delivered and answered your own prayers . . .
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
until they change what is in themselves <- effect
(13.11)Therefore . . .
It is funny to see how people like to jump into the discussion without understanding the issue . . .
Come on - this one line and you use it against everyone!
I thought I was special
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Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
until they change what is in themselves <- effectBased on this - you understanding of cause and effect is poor.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality
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Who said to you that God doesn't answer our prayers.
Who said God doesn't answer our prayers? rotfl
It is obvious you don't understand the issue . .
What I'm saying is about the law of causation . . the law of causality
the CAUSE (Allah) and EFFECT (it is we who answer peoples' prayers and deliver the cause (being grateful) . . servants of Allah) . .
Therefore the issue is . . yes Allah answers peoples' prayers . . but how . . ?
The issue is how Allah answer peoples' prayers.
ie. . . .through us . . we are the one who delivered "Allah's cause"
This is the law of causation, the "cause" and "effect"
the same way Muhammad delivered the Quran . .
Therefore the issue is . . yes Allah answers peoples' prayers . . but how . . ?
This is the issue . . Isn't it through us?
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Based on this - you understanding of cause and effect is poor.
Well that's was easy . . . at least I don't say 1 + 0 = 10
and the pattern of your argument
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .Therefore, I was right, you are wrong. rotfl
You need to change the pattern and starts giving valid reasons because it is boring . . .
argument by repetition and blank denials . .
and yes, you can repeat this over and over for 1,000 of pages . . it is very easy
he can repeat the same pattern as much as it need, even up to 10,000 posts ... and its fun!
argumentum ad nauseam rotfl
See? Proven for mmmm.... I can't remember how many times I have proven you are nothing! laugh
No authority, no valid conclusion, no premises, no verses to support your argument, repetition of irrelevant issues/old issues, ad hominem and attack on the person rather than attacking the argument, blank denials, made up false stories... arrogance, relying on fallacy and appeal to authority as main argument, unable to understand issue of discussions, bragging about your qualification and presented it as main argument, bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla ...15 pages!!! bravo
I'm done with you since there is no relevant issue from your part, including from the facts that people are marrying free women ... you are stuck with no issue. What rules or verses from the Quran?
Conclusion for the issue of Rajam click here
Conclusion for the issue of Polygamy click herehttp//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606023.msg344356#msg344356
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Who said God doesn't answer our prayers? rotfl
It is obvious you don't understand the issue . .
The issue is how Allah answer peoples' prayers.
ie. . . .through us . . we are the one who delivered "Allah's cause"
This is the law of causation, the "cause" and "effect"
the same way Muhammad delivered the Quran . .
OK, let me educate you then.
Let us make an experiment because i guess you are in grade 4
Prepare
1 - Teapot filled with water 2 - Source of fire
Now to boil the water we should bring the teapot over the source of fire in order for cause and effect to work.
Put the teapot beside the source of fire,will the water become boiled.
So we have to change the position of the teapot for the source of fire to have its effect and to cause the water to boil.
That is to choose the right path in order for the cause (God) to have its effect on you.
I hope that isn't hard for you to understand and i guess you didn't learn that in school yet.
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Who said God doesn't answer our prayers? rotfl
It is obvious you don't understand the issue . .
The issue is how Allah answer peoples' prayers.
ie. . . .through us . . we are the one who delivered "Allah's cause"
This is the law of causation, the "cause" and "effect"
the same way Muhammad delivered the Quran . .
OK, let me educate you then.
Let us make an experiment because i guess you are in grade 4
Prepare
1 - Teapot filled with water 2 - Source of fire
Now to boil the water we should bring the teapot over the source of fire in order for cause and effect to work.
Put the teapot beside the source of fire,will the water become boiled.
So we have to change the position of the teapot for the source of fire to have its effect and to cause the water to boil.
That is to choose the right path in order for the cause (God) to have its effect on you.
I hope that isn't hard for you to understand and i guess you didn't learn that in school yet.
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That was arrogance . .
and how does your explanation is related to the issue of Allah answers peoples's prayers . . . even the non muslims and disbelievers?
ie. the issue that everything is delivered through human beings, us . . .
do you understand the issue?
That is to choose the right path in order for the cause (God) to have its effect on you.
What effect? You must be blind . . .
Can't you see how Allah took care billions and trillions of living creatures through other living creatures?
and the thing that you said "choose the right path" is the point I'm making to you . . .
it is about us . . we .. as human beings . . who delivered Allah's promises etc
it is we who must answer our own prayers . . and other peoples' prayers
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
until they change what is in themselves <- effect
(13.11)Therefore, where is this so-called God that delivered you to this earth from nowhere?
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That was arrogance . .
and how does your explanation is related to the issue of Allah answers peoples's prayers . . . even the non muslims and disbelievers?
ie. the issue that everything is delivered through human beings, us . . .
do you understand the issue?
What effect? You must be blind . . .
Can't you see how Allah took care billions and trillions of living creatures through other living creatures?
and the thing that you said "choose the right path" is the point I'm making to you . . .
it is about us . . we .. as human beings . . who delivered Allah's promises etc
it is we who must answer our own prayers . . and other peoples' prayers
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
until they change what is in themselves <- effect
(13.11)That is the stupidest kind of troll i have ever seen.