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    FearGod
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    Firstly, the angels did "object" . . .

    And when your Lord said to the angels
    "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority."
    They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood
    while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?"
    (2.30)

    No that isn't an objection but a question (Will you ?)
    God answered the question "Verily, I know that which you do not know." (230)

    Where is the objection ?

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      Habibullah
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      Did the malaika/controllers make sujud/obedience like this

      http//www.koreanbuddhism.net/data/1/board/85/376/200604031144088157.jpg

      http//blog.adw.org/wp-content/uploads/prostration-0fc6a.jpg

      http//www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/67825-2/abr.jpg

      I am witnessing the sujud/obedience of the malaika / controllers to Adam/man/me everyday, but it is never like the prostration you speak of.

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        GODsubmitter
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        Did the malaika/controllers make sujud/obedience like this

        http//www.koreanbuddhism.net/data/1/board/85/376/200604031144088157.jpg

        http//blog.adw.org/wp-content/uploads/prostration-0fc6a.jpg

        http//www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/67825-2/abr.jpg

        I am witnessing the sujud/obedience of the malaika / controllers to Adam/man/me everyday, but it is never like the prostration you speak of.

        hahaha, very nice post yay rotfl bravo

        laugh

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          FearGod
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          Peace FearGod,

          Incredible. Talk about respect for someone who made you. No wonder children/teenagers often treat their parents like garbage. The problem is that many people who are atheists have a faulty perspective of what God is and think He is a tyrant who sits on a Heavenly throne expecting an unfriendly environment. To know that God exist ought to be an incitement to just serve the Lord out of love to Him. I am so glad that I am aware of God's existence and have full certainty.

          God bless you

          Peace Man of Faith,

          Yes brother, life is very short and the prophet warned people till his last days on earth to be aware of the judgement day, God bless us all.

          http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Xc1MfX9X8

          God indeed guides who deserves the guidance.

          http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xhZ00xnHIA

          http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSYgxofw-b4

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            hawk99
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            Peace,

            God, the merciful and the gracious

            He alone is the only God

            Independent

            No offspring

            Not created

            No equals

            God bless

            peace

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              muslims
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              It is funny that you questioned the creator why he makes someone to be poor.

              Did you ask yourself why God promised Israel to be a great nation ?

              Where did I questioned the Creator for making someone poor . . rotfl

              It is funny to see how people like to jump into the discussion without understanding the issue . . .

              What I'm saying is about the law of causation . . the law of causality

              the CAUSE (Allah) and EFFECT (it is we who answer peoples' prayers and deliver the cause (being grateful) . . servants of Allah) . .

              Therefore the issue is . . yes Allah answers peoples' prayers . . but how . . ?

              This is the issue . . Isn't it through us?

              or you can see Allah send you food every day directly from the sky?

              or you existed in this world out of nowhere?

              No human beings . . no angels . . no everything.

              So who delivered all this cause?

              Just Allah . . ? ;D

              Living in dreams and waiting for Allah to answer your prayers while doing nothing . . and without needing to be grateful

              In actuality, Allah is the cause , and it is YOU who delivered and answered your own prayers . . .

              Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
              until they change what is in themselves <- effect
              (13.11)

              Therefore . . .

              Who will answer their prayers?

              Who will give them food?

              Allah?

              How?

              Show me . . .

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                Habibullah
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                hahaha, very nice post yay rotfl bravo

                laugh

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                Peace, and thank you ,

                I dont get much out of your one-liners brother, I do not know what is in your heart or mind so please type it down for me if you wish to make me understand you better. No hard-feelings, no insult intended. )

                PS; why do some believers here insult the Informant of God by Calling him prophet/soothsayer?

                Prophet

                1. A person who speaks by divine inspiration or as the interpreter through whom the will of a god is expressed.

                2. A person gifted with profound moral insight and exceptional powers of expression.

                3. A predictor; a soothsayer.

                http//www.thefreedictionary.com/prophet

                Soothsayer One who claims to be able to foretell events or predict the future; a seer.

                http//www.thefreedictionary.com/soothsayer

                6938 So I do swear by what you see.
                6939 And what you do not see.
                6940 This is the utterance of an honorable messenger.
                6941 It is not the utterance of a poet; rarely do you believe.
                6942 Nor the utterance of a soothsayer; rarely do you take heed.
                6943 A revelation from the Lord of the worlds.
                6944 And had he attributed anything falsely to Us.
                6945 We would have seized him by the right.
                6946 Then, We would have severed his life-line.
                6947 None of you would be able to prevent it.
                6948 And this is a reminder for the righteous.
                6949 And We know that some of you are deniers.
                6950 And that it is a distress for the rejecters.
                6951 And it is the absolute truth.
                6952 Therefore, you shall glorify the name of your Lord, the Great.

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                  Habibullah
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                  In actuality, Allah is the cause , and it is YOU who delivered and answered your own prayers . . .

                  Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
                  until they change what is in themselves <- effect
                  (13.11)

                  I very much agree with you on this one!
                  May God bless you!

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                    FearGod
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                    Where did I questioned the Creator for making someone poor . . rotfl

                    It is funny to see how people like to jump into the discussion without understanding the issue . . .

                    What I'm saying is about the law of causation . . the law of causality

                    the CAUSE (Allah) and EFFECT (it is we who answer peoples' prayers and deliver the cause (being grateful) . . servants of Allah) . .

                    Therefore the issue is . . yes Allah answers peoples' prayers . . but how . . ?

                    This is the issue . . Isn't it through us?

                    or you can see Allah send you food every day directly from the sky?

                    or you existed in this world out of nowhere?

                    No human beings . . no angels . . no everything.

                    Who delivered all this cause?

                    Just Allah . . ? ;D

                    Living in dreams and waiting for Allah to answer your prayers while doing nothing . . and without needing to be grateful

                    In actuality, Allah is the cause , and it is YOU who delivered and answered your own prayers . . .

                    Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
                    until they change what is in themselves <- effect
                    (13.11)

                    Who said to you that God doesn't answer our prayers.

                    For him are angels ranged before him and behind him, who guard him by Allah's command. Lo! Allah changeth not the condition of a folk until they (first) change that which is in their hearts; and if Allah willeth misfortune for a folk there is none that can repel it, nor have they a defender beside Him. (1311)

                    We have our own free will for which path we choose, and hence it isn't rational to ask God to help you while you aren't willing so.

                    For example God warned that he may punish one nation if permitted prostitution and hence no one can stop God's wrath while prostitution is going on.

                    The Prophet said ?Never does sexual perversion become widespread and publicly known in certain people without them being overtaken by plague and disease that never happened to their ancestors who came before them.?(Reported by Ibn Majah.) He (peace be upon him) also said
                    ?Whenever adultery becomes a widespread phenomena among certain people, death will spread among them.?(Reported by Malik.)

                    "Mischief has appeared on land and sea because of (the meed) that the hands of men have earned, that Allah may give them a taste of some of their deeds in order that they may turn back (from evil)."(3041)

                    More Than 110 Million Americans Have an STD Report
                    Reference http//health.usnews.com/health-news/news/articles/2013/02/14/more-than-110-million-americans-have-an-std-report

                    Watch how God answer sincere prayers but i know that won't work with you except if you are willing to open your heart for forgiveness.

                    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gr54pYc3Ak

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                      Habibullah
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                      The Prophet said ?Never does sexual perversion become widespread and publicly known in certain people without them being overtaken by plague and disease that never happened to their ancestors who came before them.?(Reported by Ibn Majah.) He (peace be upon him) also said
                      ?Whenever adultery becomes a widespread phenomena among certain people, death will spread among them.?(Reported by Malik.)

                      What does the prophet say about Amsterdam?

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                        The_Chimp
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                        Where did I questioned the Creator for making someone poor . . rotfl

                        It is funny to see how people like to jump into the discussion without understanding the issue . . .

                        What I'm saying is about the law of causation . . the law of causality

                        the CAUSE (Allah) and EFFECT (it is we who answer peoples' prayers and deliver the cause (being grateful) . . servants of Allah) . .

                        Therefore the issue is . . yes Allah answers peoples' prayers . . but how . . ?

                        This is the issue . . Isn't it through us?

                        or you can see Allah send you food every day directly from the sky?

                        or you existed in this world out of nowhere?

                        No human beings . . no angels . . no everything.

                        So who delivered all this cause?

                        Just Allah . . ? ;D

                        Living in dreams and waiting for Allah to answer your prayers while doing nothing . . and without needing to be grateful

                        In actuality, Allah is the cause , and it is YOU who delivered and answered your own prayers . . .

                        Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
                        until they change what is in themselves <- effect
                        (13.11)

                        Therefore . . .

                        It is funny to see how people like to jump into the discussion without understanding the issue . . .

                        Come on - this one line and you use it against everyone!

                        I thought I was special

                        (

                        Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
                        until they change what is in themselves <- effect

                        Based on this - you understanding of cause and effect is poor.

                        http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality

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                          muslims
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                          Who said to you that God doesn't answer our prayers.

                          Who said God doesn't answer our prayers? rotfl

                          It is obvious you don't understand the issue . .

                          What I'm saying is about the law of causation . . the law of causality

                          the CAUSE (Allah) and EFFECT (it is we who answer peoples' prayers and deliver the cause (being grateful) . . servants of Allah) . .

                          Therefore the issue is . . yes Allah answers peoples' prayers . . but how . . ?

                          The issue is how Allah answer peoples' prayers.

                          ie. . . .through us . . we are the one who delivered "Allah's cause"

                          This is the law of causation, the "cause" and "effect"

                          the same way Muhammad delivered the Quran . .

                          Therefore the issue is . . yes Allah answers peoples' prayers . . but how . . ?

                          This is the issue . . Isn't it through us?

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                            muslims
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                            Based on this - you understanding of cause and effect is poor.

                            Well that's was easy . . . at least I don't say 1 + 0 = 10

                            and the pattern of your argument

                            I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
                            I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
                            I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
                            I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
                            I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
                            I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
                            I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
                            I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
                            I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
                            I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
                            I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
                            I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .

                            Therefore, I was right, you are wrong. rotfl

                            You need to change the pattern and starts giving valid reasons because it is boring . . .

                            argument by repetition and blank denials . .

                            and yes, you can repeat this over and over for 1,000 of pages . . it is very easy

                            he can repeat the same pattern as much as it need, even up to 10,000 posts ... and its fun!

                            argumentum ad nauseam rotfl

                            See? Proven for mmmm.... I can't remember how many times I have proven you are nothing! laugh

                            No authority, no valid conclusion, no premises, no verses to support your argument, repetition of irrelevant issues/old issues, ad hominem and attack on the person rather than attacking the argument, blank denials, made up false stories... arrogance, relying on fallacy and appeal to authority as main argument, unable to understand issue of discussions, bragging about your qualification and presented it as main argument, bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla ...15 pages!!! bravo

                            I'm done with you since there is no relevant issue from your part, including from the facts that people are marrying free women ... you are stuck with no issue. What rules or verses from the Quran?

                            Conclusion for the issue of Rajam click here
                            Conclusion for the issue of Polygamy click here

                            http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606023.msg344356#msg344356

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                              FearGod
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                              Who said God doesn't answer our prayers? rotfl

                              It is obvious you don't understand the issue . .

                              The issue is how Allah answer peoples' prayers.

                              ie. . . .through us . . we are the one who delivered "Allah's cause"

                              This is the law of causation, the "cause" and "effect"

                              the same way Muhammad delivered the Quran . .

                              OK, let me educate you then.

                              Let us make an experiment because i guess you are in grade 4

                              Prepare

                              1 - Teapot filled with water 2 - Source of fire

                              Now to boil the water we should bring the teapot over the source of fire in order for cause and effect to work.

                              Put the teapot beside the source of fire,will the water become boiled.

                              So we have to change the position of the teapot for the source of fire to have its effect and to cause the water to boil.

                              That is to choose the right path in order for the cause (God) to have its effect on you.

                              I hope that isn't hard for you to understand and i guess you didn't learn that in school yet.

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                                FearGod
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                                Who said God doesn't answer our prayers? rotfl

                                It is obvious you don't understand the issue . .

                                The issue is how Allah answer peoples' prayers.

                                ie. . . .through us . . we are the one who delivered "Allah's cause"

                                This is the law of causation, the "cause" and "effect"

                                the same way Muhammad delivered the Quran . .

                                OK, let me educate you then.

                                Let us make an experiment because i guess you are in grade 4

                                Prepare

                                1 - Teapot filled with water 2 - Source of fire

                                Now to boil the water we should bring the teapot over the source of fire in order for cause and effect to work.

                                Put the teapot beside the source of fire,will the water become boiled.

                                So we have to change the position of the teapot for the source of fire to have its effect and to cause the water to boil.

                                That is to choose the right path in order for the cause (God) to have its effect on you.

                                I hope that isn't hard for you to understand and i guess you didn't learn that in school yet.

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                                  muslims
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                                  That was arrogance . .

                                  and how does your explanation is related to the issue of Allah answers peoples's prayers . . . even the non muslims and disbelievers?

                                  ie. the issue that everything is delivered through human beings, us . . .

                                  do you understand the issue?

                                  That is to choose the right path in order for the cause (God) to have its effect on you.

                                  What effect? You must be blind . . .

                                  Can't you see how Allah took care billions and trillions of living creatures through other living creatures?

                                  and the thing that you said "choose the right path" is the point I'm making to you . . .

                                  it is about us . . we .. as human beings . . who delivered Allah's promises etc

                                  it is we who must answer our own prayers . . and other peoples' prayers

                                  Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
                                  until they change what is in themselves <- effect
                                  (13.11)

                                  Therefore, where is this so-called God that delivered you to this earth from nowhere?

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                                    FearGod
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                                    That was arrogance . .

                                    and how does your explanation is related to the issue of Allah answers peoples's prayers . . . even the non muslims and disbelievers?

                                    ie. the issue that everything is delivered through human beings, us . . .

                                    do you understand the issue?

                                    What effect? You must be blind . . .

                                    Can't you see how Allah took care billions and trillions of living creatures through other living creatures?

                                    and the thing that you said "choose the right path" is the point I'm making to you . . .

                                    it is about us . . we .. as human beings . . who delivered Allah's promises etc

                                    it is we who must answer our own prayers . . and other peoples' prayers

                                    Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
                                    until they change what is in themselves <- effect
                                    (13.11)

                                    That is the stupidest kind of troll i have ever seen.

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                                      muslims
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                                      That's it ? rotfl

                                      Who will answer their prayers?

                                      Who will give them food?

                                      Allah?

                                      How?

                                      Show me . . .

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                                        GODsubmitter
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                                        Must admit that this is most interesting discussion!

                                        God is One, and the task of a human is to arrive to the understanding of that, because earthlings live in paradox, or duality, ie. 0=2.

                                        Shaitan (Iblees?) is the opponent, ie. the "ego" that prevents peace of total integration & inclusion of totality of all and everything.

                                        Consciousnesses is that which even science is unable to explain & understand, but they are trying, and perhaps humans will arrive to decipher it one day...

                                        To all I give you peace beyond all understanding.

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                                          The_Chimp
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                                          Well that's was easy . . . at least I don't say 1 + 0 = 10

                                          See - tiny untruths are creeping in . . . no one ever said the above. Why don't you prove it? I never said the above - you did.

                                          The above is a false accusation against me.

                                          You need to change the pattern and starts giving valid reasons because it is boring . . .

                                          argument by repetition and blank denials . .

                                          and yes, you can repeat this over and over for 1,000 of pages . . it is very easy

                                          But this is what you do . . . and you are projecting. You have been roundly and resoundingly beaten. See - yesterdays posts.

                                          And what have you resorted to? Repeating your past failures. . . keep at it.

                                          When the argument goes out of you - you turn to being rude and vulgar.

                                          Look - you are doing to everyone!

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