I am God / Allah
-
In actuality, Allah is the cause , and it is YOU who delivered and answered your own prayers . . .
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
until they change what is in themselves <- effect
(13.11)I very much agree with you on this one!
May God bless you! -
Where did I questioned the Creator for making someone poor . . rotfl
It is funny to see how people like to jump into the discussion without understanding the issue . . .
What I'm saying is about the law of causation . . the law of causality
the CAUSE (Allah) and EFFECT (it is we who answer peoples' prayers and deliver the cause (being grateful) . . servants of Allah) . .
Therefore the issue is . . yes Allah answers peoples' prayers . . but how . . ?
This is the issue . . Isn't it through us?
or you can see Allah send you food every day directly from the sky?
or you existed in this world out of nowhere?
No human beings . . no angels . . no everything.
Who delivered all this cause?
Just Allah . . ? ;D
Living in dreams and waiting for Allah to answer your prayers while doing nothing . . and without needing to be grateful
In actuality, Allah is the cause , and it is YOU who delivered and answered your own prayers . . .
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
until they change what is in themselves <- effect
(13.11)Who said to you that God doesn't answer our prayers.
For him are angels ranged before him and behind him, who guard him by Allah's command. Lo! Allah changeth not the condition of a folk until they (first) change that which is in their hearts; and if Allah willeth misfortune for a folk there is none that can repel it, nor have they a defender beside Him. (1311)
We have our own free will for which path we choose, and hence it isn't rational to ask God to help you while you aren't willing so.
For example God warned that he may punish one nation if permitted prostitution and hence no one can stop God's wrath while prostitution is going on.
The Prophet said ?Never does sexual perversion become widespread and publicly known in certain people without them being overtaken by plague and disease that never happened to their ancestors who came before them.?(Reported by Ibn Majah.) He (peace be upon him) also said
?Whenever adultery becomes a widespread phenomena among certain people, death will spread among them.?(Reported by Malik.)"Mischief has appeared on land and sea because of (the meed) that the hands of men have earned, that Allah may give them a taste of some of their deeds in order that they may turn back (from evil)."(3041)
More Than 110 Million Americans Have an STD Report
Reference http//health.usnews.com/health-news/news/articles/2013/02/14/more-than-110-million-americans-have-an-std-reportWatch how God answer sincere prayers but i know that won't work with you except if you are willing to open your heart for forgiveness.
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gr54pYc3Ak
-
The Prophet said ?Never does sexual perversion become widespread and publicly known in certain people without them being overtaken by plague and disease that never happened to their ancestors who came before them.?(Reported by Ibn Majah.) He (peace be upon him) also said
?Whenever adultery becomes a widespread phenomena among certain people, death will spread among them.?(Reported by Malik.)What does the prophet say about Amsterdam?
-
Where did I questioned the Creator for making someone poor . . rotfl
It is funny to see how people like to jump into the discussion without understanding the issue . . .
What I'm saying is about the law of causation . . the law of causality
the CAUSE (Allah) and EFFECT (it is we who answer peoples' prayers and deliver the cause (being grateful) . . servants of Allah) . .
Therefore the issue is . . yes Allah answers peoples' prayers . . but how . . ?
This is the issue . . Isn't it through us?
or you can see Allah send you food every day directly from the sky?
or you existed in this world out of nowhere?
No human beings . . no angels . . no everything.
So who delivered all this cause?
Just Allah . . ? ;D
Living in dreams and waiting for Allah to answer your prayers while doing nothing . . and without needing to be grateful
In actuality, Allah is the cause , and it is YOU who delivered and answered your own prayers . . .
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
until they change what is in themselves <- effect
(13.11)Therefore . . .
It is funny to see how people like to jump into the discussion without understanding the issue . . .
Come on - this one line and you use it against everyone!
I thought I was special
(
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
until they change what is in themselves <- effectBased on this - you understanding of cause and effect is poor.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality
-
-
Who said to you that God doesn't answer our prayers.
Who said God doesn't answer our prayers? rotfl
It is obvious you don't understand the issue . .
What I'm saying is about the law of causation . . the law of causality
the CAUSE (Allah) and EFFECT (it is we who answer peoples' prayers and deliver the cause (being grateful) . . servants of Allah) . .
Therefore the issue is . . yes Allah answers peoples' prayers . . but how . . ?
The issue is how Allah answer peoples' prayers.
ie. . . .through us . . we are the one who delivered "Allah's cause"
This is the law of causation, the "cause" and "effect"
the same way Muhammad delivered the Quran . .
Therefore the issue is . . yes Allah answers peoples' prayers . . but how . . ?
This is the issue . . Isn't it through us?
-
Based on this - you understanding of cause and effect is poor.
Well that's was easy . . . at least I don't say 1 + 0 = 10
and the pattern of your argument
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .Therefore, I was right, you are wrong. rotfl
You need to change the pattern and starts giving valid reasons because it is boring . . .
argument by repetition and blank denials . .
and yes, you can repeat this over and over for 1,000 of pages . . it is very easy
he can repeat the same pattern as much as it need, even up to 10,000 posts ... and its fun!
argumentum ad nauseam rotfl
See? Proven for mmmm.... I can't remember how many times I have proven you are nothing! laugh
No authority, no valid conclusion, no premises, no verses to support your argument, repetition of irrelevant issues/old issues, ad hominem and attack on the person rather than attacking the argument, blank denials, made up false stories... arrogance, relying on fallacy and appeal to authority as main argument, unable to understand issue of discussions, bragging about your qualification and presented it as main argument, bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla ...15 pages!!! bravo
I'm done with you since there is no relevant issue from your part, including from the facts that people are marrying free women ... you are stuck with no issue. What rules or verses from the Quran?
Conclusion for the issue of Rajam click here
Conclusion for the issue of Polygamy click herehttp//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606023.msg344356#msg344356
-
Who said God doesn't answer our prayers? rotfl
It is obvious you don't understand the issue . .
The issue is how Allah answer peoples' prayers.
ie. . . .through us . . we are the one who delivered "Allah's cause"
This is the law of causation, the "cause" and "effect"
the same way Muhammad delivered the Quran . .
OK, let me educate you then.
Let us make an experiment because i guess you are in grade 4
Prepare
1 - Teapot filled with water 2 - Source of fire
Now to boil the water we should bring the teapot over the source of fire in order for cause and effect to work.
Put the teapot beside the source of fire,will the water become boiled.
So we have to change the position of the teapot for the source of fire to have its effect and to cause the water to boil.
That is to choose the right path in order for the cause (God) to have its effect on you.
I hope that isn't hard for you to understand and i guess you didn't learn that in school yet.
-
Who said God doesn't answer our prayers? rotfl
It is obvious you don't understand the issue . .
The issue is how Allah answer peoples' prayers.
ie. . . .through us . . we are the one who delivered "Allah's cause"
This is the law of causation, the "cause" and "effect"
the same way Muhammad delivered the Quran . .
OK, let me educate you then.
Let us make an experiment because i guess you are in grade 4
Prepare
1 - Teapot filled with water 2 - Source of fire
Now to boil the water we should bring the teapot over the source of fire in order for cause and effect to work.
Put the teapot beside the source of fire,will the water become boiled.
So we have to change the position of the teapot for the source of fire to have its effect and to cause the water to boil.
That is to choose the right path in order for the cause (God) to have its effect on you.
I hope that isn't hard for you to understand and i guess you didn't learn that in school yet.
-
That was arrogance . .
and how does your explanation is related to the issue of Allah answers peoples's prayers . . . even the non muslims and disbelievers?
ie. the issue that everything is delivered through human beings, us . . .
do you understand the issue?
That is to choose the right path in order for the cause (God) to have its effect on you.
What effect? You must be blind . . .
Can't you see how Allah took care billions and trillions of living creatures through other living creatures?
and the thing that you said "choose the right path" is the point I'm making to you . . .
it is about us . . we .. as human beings . . who delivered Allah's promises etc
it is we who must answer our own prayers . . and other peoples' prayers
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
until they change what is in themselves <- effect
(13.11)Therefore, where is this so-called God that delivered you to this earth from nowhere?
-
That was arrogance . .
and how does your explanation is related to the issue of Allah answers peoples's prayers . . . even the non muslims and disbelievers?
ie. the issue that everything is delivered through human beings, us . . .
do you understand the issue?
What effect? You must be blind . . .
Can't you see how Allah took care billions and trillions of living creatures through other living creatures?
and the thing that you said "choose the right path" is the point I'm making to you . . .
it is about us . . we .. as human beings . . who delivered Allah's promises etc
it is we who must answer our own prayers . . and other peoples' prayers
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
until they change what is in themselves <- effect
(13.11)That is the stupidest kind of troll i have ever seen.
-
Must admit that this is most interesting discussion!
God is One, and the task of a human is to arrive to the understanding of that, because earthlings live in paradox, or duality, ie. 0=2.
Shaitan (Iblees?) is the opponent, ie. the "ego" that prevents peace of total integration & inclusion of totality of all and everything.
Consciousnesses is that which even science is unable to explain & understand, but they are trying, and perhaps humans will arrive to decipher it one day...
To all I give you peace beyond all understanding.
-
Well that's was easy . . . at least I don't say 1 + 0 = 10
See - tiny untruths are creeping in . . . no one ever said the above. Why don't you prove it? I never said the above - you did.
The above is a false accusation against me.
You need to change the pattern and starts giving valid reasons because it is boring . . .
argument by repetition and blank denials . .
and yes, you can repeat this over and over for 1,000 of pages . . it is very easy
But this is what you do . . . and you are projecting. You have been roundly and resoundingly beaten. See - yesterdays posts.
And what have you resorted to? Repeating your past failures. . . keep at it.
When the argument goes out of you - you turn to being rude and vulgar.
Look - you are doing to everyone!
-
-
So who delivered all this cause?
Just Allah . . ? ;D
Living in dreams and waiting for Allah to answer your prayers while doing nothing . . and without needing to be grateful
In actuality, Allah is the cause , and it is YOU who delivered and answered your own prayers . . .
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
until they change what is in themselves <- effect
(13.11)When I pointed out your understanding of cause and effect is poor . . . what did you do? You began trolling - soft pedaling abuse. You did that yesterday - and I took your arguments apart.
Th above is contradictory.
On one hand you claim Allah is the cause - then you also Allah is not the only one who delivers this cause. You have phrased - once again - poorly.
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
until they change what is in themselves <- effectThis can be re-written as the cause is you change yourself - effect the almighty will change your condition. So in effect
until they change what is in themselves <- Cause
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- Effect.
So - if people changed themselves then result of that will be blessing and help of the Almighty. hence the old Arab proverb
"Trust in God, but tie your camel."
-
-
"Muslims"
One contention of yours is that 1 + 0 = 1
Now - your mathematical sense is poor.
If you have 1 pear and 0 oranges that equals to = 1 pear.
The orange does not exist.
So if man does not exist - then how and why would you go about about adding man and god?
But we already know man does exist . . . the only thing is man's existence is dependent upon the Almighty - and the Almighty's existence is independent.
So if you add 2 unlike things together - then you end up with 2 unlike things.
X + Y = X +Y and not X
-
-
What kind of analogy is this?
Both apple and orange are matter, so as everything else . . . matter, atomic particles . . . rotfl
and . . .
This is your question . . .
No one asked you to add 1 and 0. What was asked
How did you get from Zero to One?
The question stands...
how did you get from 0 to 1?
This is my answer . . .
This is how we become God . . by becoming "0" and servant of Allah . .
1 (God) + 0 (human) = 1 (God) = Absolute Obedience = Creating God in ourselves
and . . .
One who reach "0" can never become God . . because they are "0"
Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. (33.4) <- no heart, all is given to Allah
How can "0" becoming something ?
however . . they are God because they are "0" . . because they witness Allah in their own way
They created God in themselves, because 1 + 0 = 1
and
We are nothing, that's why we are One
1 + 0 = 1
and
Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. (33.4)
Only one heart, and it is for Allah.
1 + 0 = 1
and
Say, "Indeed, my prayer, my rites of sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allah , Lord of the worlds. (6.162(
1 + 0 = 1
and
(obviously I am not declaring myself as God . . only fools believe that)
and
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606172.msg345951#msg345951
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606172.msg345972#msg345972
You still don't understand ?
I have also explained on this . . .
I have explained, and you cannot understand . . and you will not understand, maybe forever.
or vice versa, I cannot understand your belief . . forever.
Either way, there is no one can make any of us to understand what we are not supposed to understand.
Whatever it is , those who submit and communicate with the Sunnatullah will understand
And you cannot guide the blind away from their error
You will only make hear those who believe in Our verses
so they are Muslims
(6.162)Your Argument
and now your argument is that it is my fault because you cannot understand and stupid ?
That's sound stupid enough . . . rotfl
-
What kind of analogy is this?
Both apple and orange are matter, so as everything else . . . rotfl
Analogy? And then you say
Both apple and orange are matter, so as everything else . . .
You make such meaningless statements and pretend that you have answered a question.
This is how we become God . . by becoming "0" and servant of Allah . .
1 (God) + 0 (human) = 1 (God) = Absolute Obedience = Creating God in ourselves
No we do not. We never become "god" - the concept is outright lunacy and ludicrous.
God is completely different to us - we cannot be "added" in anyway to God. And this
"Creating God in ourselves"
Is completely against the Quran - in every single way - it is Shirk.
One who reach "0" can never become God . . because they are "0"
Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. (33.4) <- no heart, all is given to Allah
This proves nothing. If you give your one heart to the love of Allah - you do not turn God.
See - you are simply fond of repeating what is already answered and challenged - and then you deviously and falsely accuse others of repetition.
Look above - without bothering to answer . . . you just repeat your tin-pot theory.
Also that is 2 baseless accusations against me . . . which when asked you have failed to prove.
-
No we do not. We never become "god" - the concept is outright lunacy and ludicrous.
God is completely different to us - we cannot be "added" in anyway to God. And this
"Creating God in ourselves"
Is completely against the Quran - in every single way - it is Shirk.
See? Proven . . your stupidity and laziness to read !
Or . . your interest for an argument by repetition . .
(obviously I am not declaring myself as God . . only fools believe that)
One who reach "0" can never become God . . because they are "0"
Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. (33.4) <- no heart, all is given to Allah
How can "0" becoming something ?
however . . they are God because they are "0" . . because they witness Allah in their own way
They created God in themselves, because 1 + 0 = 1
This is how we become God . . by becoming "0" and servant of Allah . .
1 (God) + 0 (human) = 1 (God) = Absolute Obedience = Creating God in ourselves
and what do God do?
answers peoples' prayers . . be kind to His servants . . bring peace and harmony etc
this is the task of a Khalifa . .
From a God who thinks like a man
to a man who thinks like God!
-
See - once more - rather than answering you turn to abuse! Report to Admin - I think
I should report to the admin for your action of spamming this thread with blank denials and repetition . .
and without even making one conclusion or counter argument . .
ops . . I forgot . . you don't even know what is an argument . . rotfl