I am God / Allah
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Based on this - you understanding of cause and effect is poor.
Well that's was easy . . . at least I don't say 1 + 0 = 10
and the pattern of your argument
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .
I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . . I was right, you are wrong . .Therefore, I was right, you are wrong. rotfl
You need to change the pattern and starts giving valid reasons because it is boring . . .
argument by repetition and blank denials . .
and yes, you can repeat this over and over for 1,000 of pages . . it is very easy
he can repeat the same pattern as much as it need, even up to 10,000 posts ... and its fun!
argumentum ad nauseam rotfl
See? Proven for mmmm.... I can't remember how many times I have proven you are nothing! laugh
No authority, no valid conclusion, no premises, no verses to support your argument, repetition of irrelevant issues/old issues, ad hominem and attack on the person rather than attacking the argument, blank denials, made up false stories... arrogance, relying on fallacy and appeal to authority as main argument, unable to understand issue of discussions, bragging about your qualification and presented it as main argument, bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla ...15 pages!!! bravo
I'm done with you since there is no relevant issue from your part, including from the facts that people are marrying free women ... you are stuck with no issue. What rules or verses from the Quran?
Conclusion for the issue of Rajam click here
Conclusion for the issue of Polygamy click herehttp//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606023.msg344356#msg344356
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Who said God doesn't answer our prayers? rotfl
It is obvious you don't understand the issue . .
The issue is how Allah answer peoples' prayers.
ie. . . .through us . . we are the one who delivered "Allah's cause"
This is the law of causation, the "cause" and "effect"
the same way Muhammad delivered the Quran . .
OK, let me educate you then.
Let us make an experiment because i guess you are in grade 4
Prepare
1 - Teapot filled with water 2 - Source of fire
Now to boil the water we should bring the teapot over the source of fire in order for cause and effect to work.
Put the teapot beside the source of fire,will the water become boiled.
So we have to change the position of the teapot for the source of fire to have its effect and to cause the water to boil.
That is to choose the right path in order for the cause (God) to have its effect on you.
I hope that isn't hard for you to understand and i guess you didn't learn that in school yet.
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Who said God doesn't answer our prayers? rotfl
It is obvious you don't understand the issue . .
The issue is how Allah answer peoples' prayers.
ie. . . .through us . . we are the one who delivered "Allah's cause"
This is the law of causation, the "cause" and "effect"
the same way Muhammad delivered the Quran . .
OK, let me educate you then.
Let us make an experiment because i guess you are in grade 4
Prepare
1 - Teapot filled with water 2 - Source of fire
Now to boil the water we should bring the teapot over the source of fire in order for cause and effect to work.
Put the teapot beside the source of fire,will the water become boiled.
So we have to change the position of the teapot for the source of fire to have its effect and to cause the water to boil.
That is to choose the right path in order for the cause (God) to have its effect on you.
I hope that isn't hard for you to understand and i guess you didn't learn that in school yet.
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That was arrogance . .
and how does your explanation is related to the issue of Allah answers peoples's prayers . . . even the non muslims and disbelievers?
ie. the issue that everything is delivered through human beings, us . . .
do you understand the issue?
That is to choose the right path in order for the cause (God) to have its effect on you.
What effect? You must be blind . . .
Can't you see how Allah took care billions and trillions of living creatures through other living creatures?
and the thing that you said "choose the right path" is the point I'm making to you . . .
it is about us . . we .. as human beings . . who delivered Allah's promises etc
it is we who must answer our own prayers . . and other peoples' prayers
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
until they change what is in themselves <- effect
(13.11)Therefore, where is this so-called God that delivered you to this earth from nowhere?
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That was arrogance . .
and how does your explanation is related to the issue of Allah answers peoples's prayers . . . even the non muslims and disbelievers?
ie. the issue that everything is delivered through human beings, us . . .
do you understand the issue?
What effect? You must be blind . . .
Can't you see how Allah took care billions and trillions of living creatures through other living creatures?
and the thing that you said "choose the right path" is the point I'm making to you . . .
it is about us . . we .. as human beings . . who delivered Allah's promises etc
it is we who must answer our own prayers . . and other peoples' prayers
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
until they change what is in themselves <- effect
(13.11)That is the stupidest kind of troll i have ever seen.
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Must admit that this is most interesting discussion!
God is One, and the task of a human is to arrive to the understanding of that, because earthlings live in paradox, or duality, ie. 0=2.
Shaitan (Iblees?) is the opponent, ie. the "ego" that prevents peace of total integration & inclusion of totality of all and everything.
Consciousnesses is that which even science is unable to explain & understand, but they are trying, and perhaps humans will arrive to decipher it one day...
To all I give you peace beyond all understanding.
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Well that's was easy . . . at least I don't say 1 + 0 = 10
See - tiny untruths are creeping in . . . no one ever said the above. Why don't you prove it? I never said the above - you did.
The above is a false accusation against me.
You need to change the pattern and starts giving valid reasons because it is boring . . .
argument by repetition and blank denials . .
and yes, you can repeat this over and over for 1,000 of pages . . it is very easy
But this is what you do . . . and you are projecting. You have been roundly and resoundingly beaten. See - yesterdays posts.
And what have you resorted to? Repeating your past failures. . . keep at it.
When the argument goes out of you - you turn to being rude and vulgar.
Look - you are doing to everyone!
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So who delivered all this cause?
Just Allah . . ? ;D
Living in dreams and waiting for Allah to answer your prayers while doing nothing . . and without needing to be grateful
In actuality, Allah is the cause , and it is YOU who delivered and answered your own prayers . . .
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
until they change what is in themselves <- effect
(13.11)When I pointed out your understanding of cause and effect is poor . . . what did you do? You began trolling - soft pedaling abuse. You did that yesterday - and I took your arguments apart.
Th above is contradictory.
On one hand you claim Allah is the cause - then you also Allah is not the only one who delivers this cause. You have phrased - once again - poorly.
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- cause
until they change what is in themselves <- effectThis can be re-written as the cause is you change yourself - effect the almighty will change your condition. So in effect
until they change what is in themselves <- Cause
Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people <- Effect.
So - if people changed themselves then result of that will be blessing and help of the Almighty. hence the old Arab proverb
"Trust in God, but tie your camel."
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"Muslims"
One contention of yours is that 1 + 0 = 1
Now - your mathematical sense is poor.
If you have 1 pear and 0 oranges that equals to = 1 pear.
The orange does not exist.
So if man does not exist - then how and why would you go about about adding man and god?
But we already know man does exist . . . the only thing is man's existence is dependent upon the Almighty - and the Almighty's existence is independent.
So if you add 2 unlike things together - then you end up with 2 unlike things.
X + Y = X +Y and not X
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What kind of analogy is this?
Both apple and orange are matter, so as everything else . . . matter, atomic particles . . . rotfl
and . . .
This is your question . . .
No one asked you to add 1 and 0. What was asked
How did you get from Zero to One?
The question stands...
how did you get from 0 to 1?
This is my answer . . .
This is how we become God . . by becoming "0" and servant of Allah . .
1 (God) + 0 (human) = 1 (God) = Absolute Obedience = Creating God in ourselves
and . . .
One who reach "0" can never become God . . because they are "0"
Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. (33.4) <- no heart, all is given to Allah
How can "0" becoming something ?
however . . they are God because they are "0" . . because they witness Allah in their own way
They created God in themselves, because 1 + 0 = 1
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We are nothing, that's why we are One
1 + 0 = 1
and
Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. (33.4)
Only one heart, and it is for Allah.
1 + 0 = 1
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Say, "Indeed, my prayer, my rites of sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allah , Lord of the worlds. (6.162(
1 + 0 = 1
and
(obviously I am not declaring myself as God . . only fools believe that)
and
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606172.msg345951#msg345951
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606172.msg345972#msg345972
You still don't understand ?
I have also explained on this . . .
I have explained, and you cannot understand . . and you will not understand, maybe forever.
or vice versa, I cannot understand your belief . . forever.
Either way, there is no one can make any of us to understand what we are not supposed to understand.
Whatever it is , those who submit and communicate with the Sunnatullah will understand
And you cannot guide the blind away from their error
You will only make hear those who believe in Our verses
so they are Muslims
(6.162)Your Argument
and now your argument is that it is my fault because you cannot understand and stupid ?
That's sound stupid enough . . . rotfl
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What kind of analogy is this?
Both apple and orange are matter, so as everything else . . . rotfl
Analogy? And then you say
Both apple and orange are matter, so as everything else . . .
You make such meaningless statements and pretend that you have answered a question.
This is how we become God . . by becoming "0" and servant of Allah . .
1 (God) + 0 (human) = 1 (God) = Absolute Obedience = Creating God in ourselves
No we do not. We never become "god" - the concept is outright lunacy and ludicrous.
God is completely different to us - we cannot be "added" in anyway to God. And this
"Creating God in ourselves"
Is completely against the Quran - in every single way - it is Shirk.
One who reach "0" can never become God . . because they are "0"
Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. (33.4) <- no heart, all is given to Allah
This proves nothing. If you give your one heart to the love of Allah - you do not turn God.
See - you are simply fond of repeating what is already answered and challenged - and then you deviously and falsely accuse others of repetition.
Look above - without bothering to answer . . . you just repeat your tin-pot theory.
Also that is 2 baseless accusations against me . . . which when asked you have failed to prove.
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No we do not. We never become "god" - the concept is outright lunacy and ludicrous.
God is completely different to us - we cannot be "added" in anyway to God. And this
"Creating God in ourselves"
Is completely against the Quran - in every single way - it is Shirk.
See? Proven . . your stupidity and laziness to read !
Or . . your interest for an argument by repetition . .
(obviously I am not declaring myself as God . . only fools believe that)
One who reach "0" can never become God . . because they are "0"
Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. (33.4) <- no heart, all is given to Allah
How can "0" becoming something ?
however . . they are God because they are "0" . . because they witness Allah in their own way
They created God in themselves, because 1 + 0 = 1
This is how we become God . . by becoming "0" and servant of Allah . .
1 (God) + 0 (human) = 1 (God) = Absolute Obedience = Creating God in ourselves
and what do God do?
answers peoples' prayers . . be kind to His servants . . bring peace and harmony etc
this is the task of a Khalifa . .
From a God who thinks like a man
to a man who thinks like God!
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See - once more - rather than answering you turn to abuse! Report to Admin - I think
I should report to the admin for your action of spamming this thread with blank denials and repetition . .
and without even making one conclusion or counter argument . .
ops . . I forgot . . you don't even know what is an argument . . rotfl
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Your claim that we become god by creating god in our heart is simply lunacy. You have been asked repeatedly to prove this - and you have failed. Rather than answering - you turn abusive - I have twice caught you making false accusations - when I have asked you prove them - you have failed. Your theory is completely bizarre and outright Shrik.
Absolute Obedience = Creating God in ourselves
Absolute obedience does not mean we create God in our self. The jump in logic is from you and baseless. I have asked you in the past - and no answer.
One who reach "0" can never become God . . because they are "0"
Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. (33.4) <- no heart, all is given to Allah
How can "0" becoming something ?
however . . they are God because they are "0" . . because they witness Allah in their own way
They created God in themselves, because 1 + 0 = 1
The above is simple nonsense. I mean look at this
however . . they are God because they are "0" . . because they witness Allah in their own way
The are god because they are Zero! So by winessing Allah - you claim - you become a god!
How? Prove it from the Quran? Again - been asked - again simple repetitions - claims of calling others stupid and that is all.
They created God in themselves, because 1 + 0 = 1
Again the silly logic. This is NOT creating God in themselves - God cannot be created in a person!
We are nothing, that's why we are One
1 + 0 = 1
Ha ha ha ha - that is like saying . . . if there are no eggs - then that means there are eggs! How ridiculous a logic. Nothing means Nothing and not something.
Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. (33.4)
Only one heart, and it is for Allah.
1 + 0 = 1
Having one heart - does NOT mean you go from 1 + 0 = 1
1 God + 0 man = 1 God + 0 man
and NOT
1 God + 0 man = 1 God.
Your logic is above EVERY single person on Earth! No known person has ever claimed the above to be anything other than sheer nonsense.
Say, "Indeed, my prayer, my rites of sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allah , Lord of the worlds. (6.162(
1 + 0 = 1
Again
1 + 0 = 1 is wrong as in your case . . .
1 + 0 = 1 + 0
(obviously I am not declaring myself as God . . only fools believe that)
So why are you saying - man becomes God? And why are you claiming - man creates God within himself. Obviously "fools" claim such nonsense.
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Your claim that we become god by creating god in our heart is simply lunacy. You have been asked repeatedly to prove this - and you have failed. Rather than answering - you turn abusive - I have twice caught you making false accusations - when I have asked you prove them - you have failed. Your theory is completely bizarre and outright Shrik.
Absolute obedience does not mean we create God in our self. The jump in logic is from you and baseless. I have asked you in the past - and no answer.
The above is simple nonsense. I mean look at this
The are god because they are Zero! So by winessing Allah - you claim - you become a god!
How? Prove it from the Quran? Again - been asked - again simple repetitions - claims of calling others stupid and that is all.
Again the silly logic. This is NOT creating God in themselves - God cannot be created in a person!
Ha ha ha ha - that is like saying . . . if there are no eggs - then that means there are eggs! How ridiculous a logic. Nothing means Nothing and not something.
Having one heart - does NOT mean you go from 1 + 0 = 1
1 God + 0 man = 1 God + 0 man
and NOT
1 God + 0 man = 1 God.
Your logic is above EVERY single person on Earth! No known person has ever claimed the above to be anything other than sheer nonsense.
Again
1 + 0 = 1 is wrong as in your case . . .
1 + 0 = 1 + 0
So why are you saying - man becomes God? And why are you claiming - man creates God within himself. Obviously "fools" claim such nonsense.
Look again the pattern of your argument without quotes. . .
Blank denials . . repetitions . . . and you don't even read . .
I'm saying about A . . you are saying about B
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See? Proven . . your stupidity and laziness to read !
Or . . your interest for an argument by repetition . .
Once more - you are just posting abuse - and once more no answer!
(obviously I am not declaring myself as God . . only fools believe that)
This is contradictory - I have already pointed that out . . . on one hand you claim man becomes god and man creates god within him. Hence - this contradicts with the above.
Or only fools claim
'man becomes god' and 'man creates god within him'.
You contradict your own self.
and what do God do?
answers peoples' prayers . . be kind to His servants . . bring peace and harmony etc
this is the task of a Khalifa . .
More silly contradictions . . . "Khalifah" of God is NOT God but Khalifah.
The nature of God is different HENCE man cannot be god.
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Quit being abusive. I have reported you to admin.
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I should report to the admin for your action of spamming this thread with blank denials and repetition . .
and without even making one conclusion or counter argument . .
ops . . I forgot . . you don't even know what is an argument . .
More silly abuse. And more lies against me. I have prove 2 case of your lying - in the form of baseless accusations. Please do not proceed with such silliness.
Stick to answering questions. . .
As this
I should report to the admin for your action of spamming this thread with blank denials and repetition . .
Is a complete lie and baseless accusation - else prove it.
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Then prove to me . .
(a) that God is not Ahad and Samad, and has a boundary
That God have limits . . existed in a container or body
That's sound very weak for a God . .
(b) prove to me your own existence . .
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqnEGu8VF8Y
Let see what is your answer . . . rather than making blank denials and repetitions. . .