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    The_Chimp
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    "Muslims"

    One contention of yours is that 1 + 0 = 1

    Now - your mathematical sense is poor.

    If you have 1 pear and 0 oranges that equals to = 1 pear.

    The orange does not exist.

    So if man does not exist - then how and why would you go about about adding man and god?

    But we already know man does exist . . . the only thing is man's existence is dependent upon the Almighty - and the Almighty's existence is independent.

    So if you add 2 unlike things together - then you end up with 2 unlike things.

    X + Y = X +Y and not X

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      muslims
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      What kind of analogy is this?

      Both apple and orange are matter, so as everything else . . . matter, atomic particles . . . rotfl

      and . . .

      This is your question . . .

      No one asked you to add 1 and 0. What was asked

      How did you get from Zero to One?

      The question stands...

      how did you get from 0 to 1?


      This is my answer . . .

      This is how we become God . . by becoming "0" and servant of Allah . .

      1 (God) + 0 (human) = 1 (God) = Absolute Obedience = Creating God in ourselves

      and . . .

      One who reach "0" can never become God . . because they are "0"

      Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. (33.4) <- no heart, all is given to Allah

      How can "0" becoming something ?

      however . . they are God because they are "0" . . because they witness Allah in their own way

      They created God in themselves, because 1 + 0 = 1

      and

      We are nothing, that's why we are One

      1 + 0 = 1

      and

      Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. (33.4)

      Only one heart, and it is for Allah.

      1 + 0 = 1

      and

      Say, "Indeed, my prayer, my rites of sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allah , Lord of the worlds. (6.162(

      1 + 0 = 1

      and

      (obviously I am not declaring myself as God . . only fools believe that)

      and

      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606172.msg345951#msg345951
      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606172.msg345972#msg345972


      You still don't understand ?

      I have also explained on this . . .

      I have explained, and you cannot understand . . and you will not understand, maybe forever.

      or vice versa, I cannot understand your belief . . forever.

      Either way, there is no one can make any of us to understand what we are not supposed to understand.

      Whatever it is , those who submit and communicate with the Sunnatullah will understand

      And you cannot guide the blind away from their error
      You will only make hear those who believe in Our verses
      so they are Muslims
      (6.162)

      Your Argument

      and now your argument is that it is my fault because you cannot understand and stupid ?

      That's sound stupid enough . . . rotfl

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        The_Chimp
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        What kind of analogy is this?

        Both apple and orange are matter, so as everything else . . . rotfl

        Analogy? And then you say

        Both apple and orange are matter, so as everything else . . .

        You make such meaningless statements and pretend that you have answered a question.


        This is how we become God . . by becoming "0" and servant of Allah . .

        1 (God) + 0 (human) = 1 (God) = Absolute Obedience = Creating God in ourselves

        No we do not. We never become "god" - the concept is outright lunacy and ludicrous.

        God is completely different to us - we cannot be "added" in anyway to God. And this

        "Creating God in ourselves"

        Is completely against the Quran - in every single way - it is Shirk.


        One who reach "0" can never become God . . because they are "0"

        Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. (33.4) <- no heart, all is given to Allah

        This proves nothing. If you give your one heart to the love of Allah - you do not turn God.


        See - you are simply fond of repeating what is already answered and challenged - and then you deviously and falsely accuse others of repetition.

        Look above - without bothering to answer . . . you just repeat your tin-pot theory.

        Also that is 2 baseless accusations against me . . . which when asked you have failed to prove.

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          The_Chimp
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          "and your argument now is that it is my fault because you cannot understand and are stupid ?

          That's sound stupid enough . . . rotfl
          "

          See - once more - rather than answering you turn to abuse! Report to Admin - I think

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            muslims
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            No we do not. We never become "god" - the concept is outright lunacy and ludicrous.

            God is completely different to us - we cannot be "added" in anyway to God. And this

            "Creating God in ourselves"

            Is completely against the Quran - in every single way - it is Shirk.

            See? Proven . . your stupidity and laziness to read !

            Or . . your interest for an argument by repetition . .

            (obviously I am not declaring myself as God . . only fools believe that)

            One who reach "0" can never become God . . because they are "0"

            Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. (33.4) <- no heart, all is given to Allah

            How can "0" becoming something ?

            however . . they are God because they are "0" . . because they witness Allah in their own way

            They created God in themselves, because 1 + 0 = 1

            This is how we become God . . by becoming "0" and servant of Allah . .

            1 (God) + 0 (human) = 1 (God) = Absolute Obedience = Creating God in ourselves

            and what do God do?

            answers peoples' prayers . . be kind to His servants . . bring peace and harmony etc

            this is the task of a Khalifa . .

            From a God who thinks like a man

            to a man who thinks like God!

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              muslims
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              See - once more - rather than answering you turn to abuse! Report to Admin - I think

              I should report to the admin for your action of spamming this thread with blank denials and repetition . .

              and without even making one conclusion or counter argument . .

              ops . . I forgot . . you don't even know what is an argument . . rotfl

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                The_Chimp
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                Your claim that we become god by creating god in our heart is simply lunacy. You have been asked repeatedly to prove this - and you have failed. Rather than answering - you turn abusive - I have twice caught you making false accusations - when I have asked you prove them - you have failed. Your theory is completely bizarre and outright Shrik.


                Absolute Obedience = Creating God in ourselves

                Absolute obedience does not mean we create God in our self. The jump in logic is from you and baseless. I have asked you in the past - and no answer.


                One who reach "0" can never become God . . because they are "0"

                Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. (33.4) <- no heart, all is given to Allah

                How can "0" becoming something ?

                however . . they are God because they are "0" . . because they witness Allah in their own way

                They created God in themselves, because 1 + 0 = 1

                The above is simple nonsense. I mean look at this

                however . . they are God because they are "0" . . because they witness Allah in their own way

                The are god because they are Zero! So by winessing Allah - you claim - you become a god!

                How? Prove it from the Quran? Again - been asked - again simple repetitions - claims of calling others stupid and that is all.

                They created God in themselves, because 1 + 0 = 1

                Again the silly logic. This is NOT creating God in themselves - God cannot be created in a person!

                We are nothing, that's why we are One

                1 + 0 = 1

                Ha ha ha ha - that is like saying . . . if there are no eggs - then that means there are eggs! How ridiculous a logic. Nothing means Nothing and not something.

                Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. (33.4)

                Only one heart, and it is for Allah.

                1 + 0 = 1

                Having one heart - does NOT mean you go from 1 + 0 = 1

                1 God + 0 man = 1 God + 0 man

                and NOT

                1 God + 0 man = 1 God.

                Your logic is above EVERY single person on Earth! No known person has ever claimed the above to be anything other than sheer nonsense.

                Say, "Indeed, my prayer, my rites of sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allah , Lord of the worlds. (6.162(

                1 + 0 = 1

                Again

                1 + 0 = 1 is wrong as in your case . . .

                1 + 0 = 1 + 0

                (obviously I am not declaring myself as God . . only fools believe that)

                So why are you saying - man becomes God? And why are you claiming - man creates God within himself. Obviously "fools" claim such nonsense.

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                  muslims
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                  Your claim that we become god by creating god in our heart is simply lunacy. You have been asked repeatedly to prove this - and you have failed. Rather than answering - you turn abusive - I have twice caught you making false accusations - when I have asked you prove them - you have failed. Your theory is completely bizarre and outright Shrik.


                  Absolute obedience does not mean we create God in our self. The jump in logic is from you and baseless. I have asked you in the past - and no answer.


                  The above is simple nonsense. I mean look at this

                  The are god because they are Zero! So by winessing Allah - you claim - you become a god!

                  How? Prove it from the Quran? Again - been asked - again simple repetitions - claims of calling others stupid and that is all.

                  Again the silly logic. This is NOT creating God in themselves - God cannot be created in a person!

                  Ha ha ha ha - that is like saying . . . if there are no eggs - then that means there are eggs! How ridiculous a logic. Nothing means Nothing and not something.

                  Having one heart - does NOT mean you go from 1 + 0 = 1

                  1 God + 0 man = 1 God + 0 man

                  and NOT

                  1 God + 0 man = 1 God.

                  Your logic is above EVERY single person on Earth! No known person has ever claimed the above to be anything other than sheer nonsense.

                  Again

                  1 + 0 = 1 is wrong as in your case . . .

                  1 + 0 = 1 + 0

                  So why are you saying - man becomes God? And why are you claiming - man creates God within himself. Obviously "fools" claim such nonsense.

                  Look again the pattern of your argument without quotes. . .

                  Blank denials . . repetitions . . . and you don't even read . .

                  I'm saying about A . . you are saying about B

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                    The_Chimp
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                    See? Proven . . your stupidity and laziness to read !

                    Or . . your interest for an argument by repetition . .

                    Once more - you are just posting abuse - and once more no answer!

                    (obviously I am not declaring myself as God . . only fools believe that)

                    This is contradictory - I have already pointed that out . . . on one hand you claim man becomes god and man creates god within him. Hence - this contradicts with the above.

                    Or only fools claim

                    'man becomes god' and 'man creates god within him'.

                    You contradict your own self.

                    and what do God do?

                    answers peoples' prayers . . be kind to His servants . . bring peace and harmony etc

                    this is the task of a Khalifa . .

                    More silly contradictions . . . "Khalifah" of God is NOT God but Khalifah.

                    The nature of God is different HENCE man cannot be god.

                    = = =

                    Quit being abusive. I have reported you to admin.

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                      The_Chimp
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                      I should report to the admin for your action of spamming this thread with blank denials and repetition . .

                      and without even making one conclusion or counter argument . .

                      ops . . I forgot . . you don't even know what is an argument . .

                      More silly abuse. And more lies against me. I have prove 2 case of your lying - in the form of baseless accusations. Please do not proceed with such silliness.

                      Stick to answering questions. . .

                      As this

                      I should report to the admin for your action of spamming this thread with blank denials and repetition . .

                      Is a complete lie and baseless accusation - else prove it.

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                        muslims
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                        Then prove to me . .

                        (a) that God is not Ahad and Samad, and has a boundary

                        That God have limits . . existed in a container or body

                        That's sound very weak for a God . .

                        (b) prove to me your own existence . .

                        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqnEGu8VF8Y

                        Let see what is your answer . . . rather than making blank denials and repetitions. . .

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                          The_Chimp
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                          Look again the pattern of your argument without quotes. . .

                          Blank denials . . repetitions . . . and you don't even read . .

                          I'm saying about A . . you are saying about B

                          One every single point I have answered you. Yet more baseless accusations and more avoidance.

                          Then you will turn around and start saying you have not been answered.

                          Well - here we are . . . I have answered you point by point.


                          I'm saying about A . . you are saying about B

                          Prove this baseless accusation


                          Blank denials . . repetitions . . . and you don't even read . .

                          Prove this silly baseless accusation. How can I answer EVERY single point of yours . . .and still not read?

                          What have I denied?

                          What did I repeat?

                          Prove these - or more baseless accusations.

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                            The_Chimp
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                            Then prove to me . .

                            (a) that God is not Ahad and Samad, and has a boundary

                            That God have limits . . existed in a container or body

                            That's sound very weak for a God . .

                            (b) prove to me your own existence . .

                            http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqnEGu8VF8Y

                            Once again - you have not been able to answer questions . . . I went through your answer point by point . . . no answer - just abuse and baseless accusations. And then this new drama.

                            that God is not Ahad and Samad, and has a boundary

                            Why should I prove this - when I already believe god is Ahad and Samad.

                            Do not foget - when I asked you about your interpretation of these 2 words - you just sent lots of abuse towards me.

                            prove to me your own existence . .

                            Lol - ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

                            I am a robot!

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                              muslims
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                              See?

                              You make blank denials for every answer . .

                              You repeat question in this thread . .

                              and when people ask your for your conclusion or counter argument . . you simply ignore .

                              That's how it's always been with The Chimp. . Boringggggggggggggggggg . . .

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                                The_Chimp
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                                See? You make blanks denials for every answer . .

                                You repeat question in this thread . .

                                and when people ask your for your conclusion . . you simply ignore .

                                Once more - completely wrong - it is there for EVERYONE to see . . . I answered EVERY question - one by one.

                                I even asked you - what denial?

                                You have not even able to bring one example!

                                = = =

                                Your views are silly and wrong - you cannot answer - you are vulgar and you are accusing willy nilly.

                                It is my sincere advice - stop this nonsense.

                                = = =

                                I have highlighted your silly contradictions and baseless views - those that are Shirk. Any answer. . . none.

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                                  The_Chimp
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                                  See?

                                  You make blank denials for every answer . .

                                  You repeat question in this thread . .

                                  and when people ask your for your conclusion or counter argument . . you simply ignore .

                                  That's how it's always been with The Chimp. . Boringggggggggggggggggg . . .

                                  What people? What are you talking about? I have not made a single "blank denial"

                                  Where?

                                  Your petty attempts at "abusing" me rather than answering are simply highlighting your own silliness and inability not to answer.


                                  You cannot even answer a simple question - such as "What is your name"

                                  You asked me - look I even answered that!

                                  Then your accusation

                                  You make blank denials for every answer . .

                                  You repeat question in this thread . .

                                  Well - you accuse everyone when you are in a corner.

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                                    The_Chimp
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                                    Your verbal attacks are getting silly. No one is fooled by saying "blank denials" as you do that to everyone.

                                    As to your views - they are shirk and baseless - not a single verse of Quran alludes to such statement - in fact the whole concept of Oneness of Allah is complete against this.

                                    On one hand you say

                                    "Man becomes God"

                                    and then you say that are not yourself claiming to be a God - as only fools claim this! Then this is a strange contradiction.

                                    When you are asked to answer this - all you can say is I am making "blank denials".

                                    Now how is that a "blank denial" of anything?

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                                      muslims
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                                      Nope, wrong answer to my question . . please prove . .

                                      (a) that God is not Ahad and Samad, and has a boundary

                                      That God have limits . . existed in a container or body

                                      That's sound very weak for a God . .

                                      (b) prove your own existence . .

                                      http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqnEGu8VF8Y

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                                        The_Chimp
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                                        Wrong answer . . please prove . .

                                        (a) that God is not Ahad and Samad, and has a boundary

                                        That God have limits . . existed in a container or body

                                        That's sound very weak for a God . .

                                        (b) prove your own existence . .

                                        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqnEGu8VF8Y


                                        So after your repeated silly accusation of "blank denials and repetition" now it is

                                        Wrong answer . . please prove . .

                                        Why is it a wrong answer? See who is making blank denials and repeating?

                                        (a) that God is not Ahad and Samad, and has a boundary

                                        Why should I prove this? I already believe that Allah is Ahand and Samad and he is no bound by anything.


                                        prove your own existence . .

                                        I already have! Ha! See you could not answer!

                                        Ha ha ha and ha! rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

                                        Who do you think is answering you? A robot?

                                        I am the "entity" that is answering you!


                                        Lol! I think you have been listening to strange videos and they have addled your brain . . . brickwall

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                                          muslims
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                                          So after your repeated silly accusation of "blank denials and repetition" now it is

                                          Why is it a wrong answer? See who is making blank denials and repeating?

                                          Why should I prove this? I already believe that Allah is Ahand and Samad and he is no bound by anything.


                                          I already have! Ha! See you could not answer!

                                          Ha ha ha and ha! rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

                                          Who do you think is answering you? A robot?

                                          I am the "entity" that is answering you!


                                          Lol! I think you have been listening to strange videos and they have addled your brain . . . brickwall

                                          Let see . . nope, I did not see any answer . . please prove . .

                                          (a) that God is not Ahad and Samad, and has a boundary

                                          That God have limits . . existed in a container or body

                                          That's sound very weak for a God . .

                                          (b) prove your own existence . .

                                          http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqnEGu8VF8Y

                                          Why is it a wrong answer? See who is making blank denials and repeating?

                                          Ask yourself . . since you love to play this game so much . . and I could repeat this for 1,000 of pages or more rotfl

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