What is Islam?
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I'm not cited the verse based on my own but from some authentic scholars.
They are not authentic scholars, and obviously. . they are not the ulama.
I prefer to the following definition of an ulama (35.27-2. . .
The Quran has referred to those people as ulema, and in modern terminology they are called scientists.
or. . an expert in any field of studies or discipline relating to life and Allah's creations !
Physics, botany, zoology, and the humanities are all touched upon. The knowledgeable persons are awestruck because their insight has convinced them of His power and Wisdom in controlling the universe perfectly.
Reason . . .
The Ulema?Who Are They?
The issue
The capacity to acquire knowledge makes human beings the most superior of creations. But what is knowledge? Who is entitled to be called a knowledgeable person (ulema)? What is the Quranic point of view on this?
FIRST PART, the definition of knowledge
We must identify the "type and category of knowledge", before we can identify who is the ulama. . .accordingly, the believers and muslim.
The following is the verse to define the "type and category of knowledge" that must be acquired for someone to be called as the ulama . .
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And do not pursue that of which you have no knowledge.
Indeed, the hearing,
the sight
and the heart
about all those will be questioned7179
And We have certainly created for Hell many of the jinn and mankind.
They have hearts with which they do not understand,
they have eyes with which they do not see,
and they have ears with which they do not hear.
Those are like livestock; rather, they are more astray.
It is they who are the heedless.ie. knowledge is related to . . . heart + eyes + ears. . .
This verse also indicates that knowledge is only that which can be explained by the senses and the mind. Intangible, abstract matters have nothing to do with the senses. Observation of natural phenomena and the study of the universe, experimentation to discover the laws of creation, maintenance, and workings of the components of the universe are the applications of sense-perception. In modern terminology this is called scientific knowledge. As the Quran states, the pursuit of such knowledge is the duty of all believers (momineen).
It is "scientific knowledge" . . . and therefore,
it is the duty of the Muslim ummah to understand the laws of nature and utilize them for the benefit of mankind.
Indeed, within the heavens and earth are signs for the believers.
And in the creation of yourselves and what He disperses of moving creatures
are signs for people who are certain .
And the alternation of night and day
and what Allah sends down from the sky of provision
and gives life thereby to the earth after its lifelessness
and directing of the winds
are signs for a people who reason.
These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth.
Then in what statement after Allah and His verses will they believe?
453-6This is because . . .
Allah has stated in unambiguous terms that belief in Him comes through the study of nature and its laws. If studying natural law does not lead one to believe in Allah, then nothing else can. This astounding declaration illustrates the importance of studying natural phenomena. Real belief based on reason can only be achieved through this method.
Yes, "real belief based on reason can only be achieved through this method". . acquiring true knowledge.
It is not just that, but . . . those who follow that path will find out how Allah will reveal Himself.
The Quran describes the setup of the universe and follows by saying that meeting with Allah is possible. It indicates that if you want Allah to reveal himself to you then you have to study the universe, scrutinize every object in it, and through observation and experiment, discover the laws governing this system. Thus all the mysteries of Nature will be unlocked one by one and you will gain insight into how Allah is sustaining this universe. This is what meeting and ?seeing? Allah means. As far as the entity of Allah is concerned, He is beyond the comprehension of human minds, let alone sense-perception. Seeing or meeting Him does not refer to the physical sense, it means gaining knowledge of how the universe functions and is regulated by Him. It is clear that according to the Quran, only those who observe natural phenomena can know how Allah runs the universe.
Therefore it is clear that according to the Quran, only those who observe natural phenomena can know how Allah runs the universe.
It is Allah who erected the heavens without pillars that you see;
then He established Himself above the Throne
and made subject the sun and the moon,
each running for a specified term. He arranges matter;
He details the signs that you may, of the meeting with your Lord, be certain.
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People who have been unaware of these signs in the universe have their doubts about seeing proof of Allah. In fact they would not have to go very far to do so; the study of any object in the universe can provide evidence for the workings of Allah?s laws. The rabubiyat order is not tied to any one thing but encompasses the whole of the universe ?Indeed, are they in doubt concerning the meeting with Allah? It is He who controls all things.? (41/54)
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SECOND PART Once we identified the knowledge (ie."scientific knowledge" and barriers . . one must then becoming a muttaqeen (absolute obedience to Allah) in order to observe natural phenomena.
Therefore, this requires "spirituality" and "consciousness"; ie. free ourselves from shirk.
It is clear that according to the Quran, only those who observe natural phenomena can know how Allah runs the universe. It is a long, arduous process which sometimes requires scaling the highest peaks of the Himalayas, diving to the bottomless depths of the Atlantic, bearing the scorching heat of the Saharan dessert, and doing research in the bone chilling cold of the North Pole. This kind of research is only carried out by those who are not satisfied with what they know at present; those who look beyond the horizon and strive for more knowledge. The Quran says, ?Verily, in the alteration of the night and day, and in all that Allah has created, in the heavens and the earth are signs for those who are devoted believers (muttaqeen).? (10/6)
Contradictictorily, ie those who are not the muttaqeen
Indeed, those who do not expect the meeting with Us
and are satisfied with the life of this world
and feel secure therein
and those who are heedless of Our signs
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These verses offer a cause for the cyclical rise and fall of nations. Those who are satisfied with the status quo and do not strive for improvement and a better future are devoid of thought and action; they fall from grace and are left far behind in the struggle of life. In contrast, those nations that work hard to develop new inventions and make new discoveries surge far ahead. Because of their initiative and well directioned hard work, nature rewards them by revealing its hidden treasures.
and that's why. . .
On the other hand, there are European nations with very little land but with so much production capabilities that they not only provide for local needs but they even manage to export surplus food. This is due to the fact that they are perpetually laboring in accordance with the laws of nature in order to take advantage of its hidden treasures. It is a divine law that the livelihoods of those who eschew the laws of Allah continuously diminish (20/124). This law is universal and there are no exceptions. Muslims have been shunning this law for centuries; as if this were not enough, we also have not put our senses to proper use and have been thus divested of these faculties. We have fallen into the category of those people whose ?hearts, ears, and eyes have become useless, and they do not take heed.? (16/10
Consequently . . .
And whoever turns away from My remembrance - indeed,
he will have a depressed life
and We will gather him on the Day of Resurrection blind."
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THIRD PART Therefore, what is the conditions for becoming an ulama , accordingly a True Believer and a Muslim ?
Firstly. . .
i) Knowledge is only that which can be verified by the human senses and mind
Secondly. . .
ii) Use of the senses means to observe natural phenomena, study the laws of nature, carry out consistent research, and experience the revelation of Allah?s laws that run the universe and provide systematic sustenance, growth, and development.
Such practice is the hallmark of believers in general and the duty of muttaqeen in particular. This is zikr-o-fikr i-khudawandi, or following the laws of Allah. This behavior brings to light the hidden secrets of the universe and on the basis of knowledge we can say to our Rabb, ?You did not create anything in vain.?
Thirdly. . .
The critical factor is whether one uses the information according to the laws of Allah. So, there are two conditions in becoming a Mumin to gain knowledge from nature, and to use it according to the injunctions of Allah. The Quran demands that ?its system be accepted in its totality.? (2/20 A nation that does not meet both of these criteria cannot be Mumin, and since Muslims fail regarding the first condition, we cannot claim to be Mumin.
In order to use the forces of nature in accordance with Allah?s laws it is absolutely necessary to study the Quran because these laws are contained within it. Those who are firmly grounded in knowledge conduct affairs of the state according to Allah?s injunctions because they know ?if any fail to judge by the light what Allah has revealed, they are no better than the unbelievers.? (5/44)
and that's why . . .
In contrast, Western nations do not fulfill the second criterion; thus, on a practical level, Muslims and western non-Muslims are in the same position.
Additionally. . . spirituality, consciousness. . ie. iqra. (kenal diri)
This is not all that must be done. Allah has stated that there is testimony to the truth of Quranic claims in the form of signs provided by Him in the universe.
We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves
until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth <- spirituality and iqra, kenal diri.
But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?
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FIFTH PART Therefore, who is the ulama . . . accordingly who is the True Believers and Muslims ?
By knowing this it is easy to figure out who, according to the Quran, is a knowledgeable person and what the term actually means. The Quran has even explained this fact so there is no confusion
Do you not see
that Allah sends down rain from the sky <- all the subjects to describe ulama are related to science
and We produce thereby fruits of varying colors?
And in the mountains are tracts,
white and red of varying shades and extremely black.
And among people
and moving creatures
and grazing livestock
are various colors similarly.
Only those fear Allah , from among His servants
who have knowledge (ulama).
Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Forgiving.
35.27-28as we can se, all the subject to describe an ulama is related to science. . .
These two verses deal with different parts of the universe, different branches of nature, and different fields of science. Physics, botany, zoology, and the humanities are all touched upon. The knowledgeable persons are awestruck because their insight has convinced them of His power and Wisdom in controlling the universe perfectly.
Therefore, the Quran defined the ulama as follow
The Quran has referred to those people as ulema, and in modern terminology they are called scientists.
This is because . .
These are the people who study nature and after observation and consistent experimentation, conquer the forces of nature. Allah has put the forces of nature under our control, but only those who know the laws can manipulate these forces. The only way to become one of the ulema is to acquire this knowledge.
and accordingly . . . the Mumineen and Muttaqeen is. . .
it is evident that, according to the Quran, the Mumineen, Muttaqeen, those who abide by and keep Allah?s laws in sight, and those who have faith and long to ?meet? with Allah, are people who study the universe and perform practical research on the objects therein as well as the forces of nature. The experience thus gained is called knowledge, and the Quran calls those who have this knowledge ulema.
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LAST PART Comparision with current definition of ulama.
First. . .
They do not know the fundamentals of natural sciences, and their knowledge is limited to theoretical discussions and verbal emendations.
Second. . .
These discussions are mostly related to issues that have no bearing on the universe or the practical life of people.
Third. . .
The curriculum of religious schools is spread over ten years during which students study logic, philosophy, rhetoric, grammar, literature, etc, most of which is outdated.
Fourth. . .
They also learn about astronomy, geometry, and arithmetic, which are also outdated.
Fifth . . .
It is curious to note that the study of the Quran is not included in the curriculum. A certain exegesis (Jilalain) is taught that consists of only synonyms of the Quranic words. In the last year of study an exegesis of the second chapter of the Quran is taught (Bazadi). This is the education upon completion of which they receive certification for becoming an aalim (knowledgeable person).
Sixth. . .
law making has fallen victim to the same ignorant judgments
example. . .
The Mufti then gave his verdict in favor of the use of loudspeakers. However, another aalim, Mufti Mohammad Shafee, a senior teacher in the religious academy of Deoband, published a verdict in a magazine in which the use of the devices for prayer was declared unlawful. He wrote that he did not know the nature of the device and how it worked. He sought information from the science teacher, Mr. Brij Nandan Lal of Alexander High School of Bhopal, and the teacher said, ?Because of the use of electrical power I am hesitant to believe that the sound is original, and find it hard to deny it either because to prove otherwise is equally difficult.? After this ?exhaustive research? and on the basis on conjecture from a non-Muslim, a Muslim aalim decided that it was the decree of Allah and His prophet to forbid the use of loudspeakers. This illustrates nicely how ignorant the ulema are in matters natural and modern science; it is ironic that they still retain the ability to issue verdicts (fatwas) on them
I must say, that it is quite embarrassing having those people as the Ulama of Islam.
The truth, they are in fact not the ulama, but the "ignorant" (+ Ahlul Kitab) and know nothing about science and the law of nature etc . . .
Consequently . . .
And whoever turns away from My remembrance - indeed,
he will have a depressed life ... <- or depressed ummah, depressed nation, depressed country etc. . .
and We will gather him on the Day of Resurrection blind."
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Is this the answer to the issue or it is merely ad hominem?
That is my reminder to you.
You often preach by using plenty-long posts,
but I wonder Where are your PRACTICES? Your actual applications?
How can you uphold peace if you love provoking others and making others get upset.
If you do support peace, why not trying your best to reconcile between conflicting parties, to extinguish the fire of dispute, but unfortunately you're more like someone who lit the fire.
If you truly practice lessons in the Qur'an, perhaps you'll become humble person.
Peace.
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That is my reminder to you.
You often preach by using plenty-long posts,
but I wonder Where are your PRACTICES? Your actual applications?
How can you uphold peace if you love provoking others and making others get upset.
If you do support peace, why not trying your best to reconcile between conflicting parties, to extinguish the fire of dispute, but unfortunately you're more like someone who lit the fire.
If you truly practice lessons in the Qur'an, perhaps you'll become humble person.
So tell me. . . what is the lesson from the Quran ? . . and what is peace ?
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peace
Are you willing to practice the lessons in the Qur'an with sincere?
Peace.
I am practicing what I said in this forum . . maybe it is you who are not practicing the Quran and being a sectarian.
So. . what is the lesson from the Quran ? and. . what is peace ?
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Oh.. I see.. so your attitudes on this forum are your practices from your own saying.
That's why I'm asking you . . since it is so obvious that you know more about the Quran . . and maybe I am wrong in my opinion.
Therefore, what is the lesson from the Quran? . . . and what is peace, according to the Quran ?
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That's why I'm asking you . . since it is so obvious that you know more about the Quran . . and maybe I am wrong in my opinion.
Therefore, what is the lesson from the Quran? . . . and what is peace, according to the Quran ?
If you really want to know, you can beg to Allah to teach you.
Allah is my Lord and your Lord.
I think only Allah Who can teach you. I can't.
To make you understand is beyond my ability.
Peace.
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If you really want to know, you can beg to Allah to teach you.
Allah is my Lord and your Lord.
I think only Allah who can teach you. I can't.
To make you understand is beyond my ability. )
You are reminding people and claiming that people are wrong
but when people ask for an explanation as to why they are wrongyou can't explain and be responsible for your own statement ?
Do you know what that makes you?
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You are reminding people and claiming that people are wrong
but when people ask for an explanation as to why they are wrongyou can't explain and be responsible for your own statement ?
What that makes you ?
Yes, for your case I can't, because I don't trust you.
Peace.
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See? another irresponsible statement . . which of course, you cannot take the responsibility to account for any of them. Hypocrite. . .
Insha Allah, someday Allah will judge between us related this matter.
I believe Allah is fully aware of our works.
Peace.
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Insha Allah, someday Allah will judge between us related this matter.
I believe Allah is fully aware of our works.
What matter ? Supporting the killing of Ahmadiyya on the issue of sectarianism ? The killing of 1 million of Papuan natives etc ?
Allah is my Lord and your Lord.
By the way, you misunderstood the ayat. . that one is for the "hablum minallah", but not in relation to the "hablum minannas". .
and . .my Lord is not your Lord, and your Lord is not my Lord . . .
absolutely not the same , if you are able to understand what I mean. . .. . .
You will not find a people who believe in Allah and the Last Day
having affection for those who oppose Allah and His Messenger
even if they were
their fathers
or their sons
or their brothers
or their kindred
Those - He has decreed within their hearts faith and supported them with spirit from Him
And We will admit them to gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they abide eternally
Allah is pleased with them, and they are pleased with Him - those are the party of Allah .
Unquestionably, the party of Allah - they are the successful.
58.22Allah would not leave the believers in that you are in
until He separates the evil from the good
Nor would Allah reveal to you the unseen
But , Allah chooses of His messengers whom He wills
so believe in Allah and His messengers
And if you believe and fear Him, then for you is a great reward
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What matter ? Supporting the killing of Ahmadiyya on the issue of sectarianism ? The killing of 1 million of Papuan natives etc ?
Berbicara dengan anda kok sepertinya tidak ada selesainya ya...
Sudah dulu ya. ) Silakan saja kalau mau menuduh saya hypocrite.
Peace.
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Salaam
Another self contradicting statement ? or. . you mean to say "muslims who kill muslims (from the same sect) like in the Aceh case"
I mean, death sentece is permisable if the muslims do apostasy,
But in the Aceh case, the killings in there is not in the name of Allah but for political reason
Such kind of killing is haramI believe they make the syahada, pray to the same Allah, fasting, pay zakat . . go to hajj and teach righteousness etc. (refer here). They are muslim as the majority called themselves a Muslim.
There're many heretic muslims during caliphate eras who corrupted Islamic teaching and most of them get punished
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"...WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT PEACE AND PLANNED TO TAKE OUT THIS LAND JUST LIKE THEY DID IN SINGAPORE AND THAILAND..."
The less than 1% minority want to take over the Indonesia country, just what they did in Singapore and Thailand.
The contention is very sound and logic.
Great Fallacy!!!
To take control of the land, the quality is needed not the quantity.
White minority in South Africa and Zimbabwe capable to take control of the country during the apartheid era.
Their count only few percents in the population1%?? From where the data you get?? wikipedia?? rotfl
If you want to know the fact, some of Chinese in here disguised as non-chinese because their trauma of New Order's policy.
And some of them until now still refused to be labeled as China or Tionghoa and started to used non-chinese namesThis also happens during 2000 cencus, most of Chinese at time still go outside country and some of them still refused to be acknowledged as chinese.
I ever heard the a Christian Chinese family in Medan disguised themself as Minasahan ethnic and adopted Minahasan surnames during that eraAccording 1930 cencus during the Dutch occupation, the chinese is only 2,30%, and most of them concentrated in Java, Sumatra and Kalemantan/Borneo.
But after the new influx of immigrations for long times, and when the chinese start to became honest to expose their identity
THUS the shocking fact is they're 12 million!!! in 2014 census.
And still...... they're mostly concentrated in western part of Indonesia (Sumatra, Java, Borneo and Greater Riau Islands)If you think chinese in Indonesia, Malaysia and other SEA countries don't related each other, then you are wrong
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bamboo_network
This is the good article about Chinese hegemony in Indonesia (both economy and politically)
http//radennuh.org/2014/02/20/setelah-hegemoni-ekonomi-kini-saatnya-etnis-cina-berkuasa-penuh-di-ri/
I do businnes with some Chinese and I already realized this from the start.I ever go to a chinese party and I found many chinese who speak Mandarin, then I know if they're chinese foreigners (can be from Malaysia or Singapore).
Please open your eyes!!! it's not about dumb nationalities, but for how we behold the balance between chinese hegemony and our identity as muslims.
Simple rules, two sides, if one side is down the other side will raised
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