Would like to learn more....

Man_of_Faith

Harmony be with you Seeking,

God is a spectacular phenomenon. A kind of singularity which everything including us being its mass. This is why you cannot see God, but if you raise your own hand in front of your eyes and behold it, you have seen God or if you watch the mountain or anywhere there is God.

But some people oppose that notion and become in opposition and an anomaly to this singularity and they will be be ejected into the place called Hell when the promised day comes. Because when the Singularity contracts back to One then everyone not One (whole) will meet that fate. It is all about being an anomaly or impurity to that Singularity that faith is about.

Iman (faith) and do/be good is hence the watchword repeated many times just because this is the key. Iman is the condition of being whole and not impure.

And to have iman you need to be harmonized to God which I consider to be in a kind of symbiotic state with God.

As you can see my perception of faith is not like others, but yet I take this interpretation out of the book called Quran. But I consider this to be the real faith without a lot of strangeness.

Salat, or contact prayer as it is wrongfully called, is the case of being mindful of what you have been taught/enlightened about and become purified. Nothing magical, just hearkened unto the decree (commandments) taught by God and try to become one with God rather than distance yourself by being impure. Impure could be regarded as being evil, like unfair and oppressive. Consider bad person.

People focus so much on wondering what God wants us to do while it is very obvious. Do deeds that are goodly.

Be whole

Seeking

I can't read Japanese but have you tried google? https//www.alislam.org/quran/Holy-Quran-Japanese.pdf
Yeh even to muslims, though it's not really that bad in Australia. There might be a few idiots but it's mainly just ignorance. Besides no-one is going to kill you there for apostasy. I think for most people it's the idea of shaming the family and more about traditions and social status than religiousness.

You could go to the local masjid and contact them no big deal. Just tell them you want to learn about islam. Though I believe you'd be going to learn their islamic ideology so inevitably at some point they'd end up teaching you about hadith, like it or not.

Thank you very much for the link! (I can't believe I didn't think to look up the Japanese version on the internet... o ) I've had a quick look at it and it seems to have several verses on the top of the page, followed by an explanation of each verse underneath. It's definitely going to take me a while to read it all, but from first glance, it might be quite interesting to see how they've explained each verse.

I think it might be okay in Japan too. Thankfully the Japanese are pretty easy going and welcoming of all religions (unfortunately there are people who hate Islam and Muslims in Australia-again, blaming what terrorists do on the entire religious population ( ) so it might be easier to learn without worrying about offending anyone.

I will have to contact a mesjid and ask if I can visit and learn more about Islam. Like you said, I will probably have to learn about hadith if I go as they'll teach me their ideology, but as long as I keep an open mind I think I would learn more about Islam.

Seeking

All or at least majority of today's organized religion was invented to control people's mind.
It's an easy to observe pattern especially on Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

The religion of Islam and its Sharia conception consists of

50% Judaism
25% Christianity
15% Arab Paganism
10% Others (Zoroastrianism, Mandeanism etc..)

You can easily trace every concept within Sharia to it's respective sources, from stoning the apostate to the ridiculous headscarf law.

See the above, within the religion of Islam is not much of a difference..
X is true because Muhammad (allegedly) said so in the hadith or because the Quran said so.
No matter how ridiculous and illogical X is.

I remembered asking my "Murrobi" the question of
How does Muhammad's shahada sounds like? Did he proclaimed "I testify that I am the messenger of God"?
And the answer was it is because his hadith said so..

And many people in this forum still clinging to such mindset..
X is true because the Quran said so..

Don't stop asking question because if it smells like sht, usually it is sht..

The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend personal God and avoid dogma and theology. Covering both the natural and the spiritual, it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things natural and spiritual as a meaningful unity. Buddhism answers this description. If there is any religion that could cope with modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism.
-- Albert Einstein

Believe nothing, merely because you have been told of it ? or because it is traditional, or because you yourselves have imagined it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings?that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide
-- Siddhartha

Salam / Peace

It's sad that something as beautiful as religion is twisted and changed in order for it to be used to control people's lives...

I'm sorry that you were told the same non-answers I was when you questioned the Qu'ran or hadith. If we don't think for ourselves and question what we don't understand and/or agree with, how will we ever learn?

One day, after I question and learn as much as I can, I hope to find the path for me. Right now everything is so confusing and I don't know what I'm doing. One moment, I feel like I want to run to the closest mesjid and learn as much as I can, the next, I want to stay how I am and not learn more about Islam....I'm very confused at the moment, so rather than make any snap decisions, I'm trying to take it slow and learn at my pace hopefully one day I will know where I am going!

Seeking

Harmony be with you Seeking,

God is a spectacular phenomenon. A kind of singularity which everything including us being its mass. This is why you cannot see God, but if you raise your own hand in front of your eyes and behold it, you have seen God or if you watch the mountain or anywhere there is God.

But some people oppose that notion and become in opposition and an anomaly to this singularity and they will be be ejected into the place called Hell when the promised day comes. Because when the Singularity contracts back to One then everyone not One (whole) will meet that fate. It is all about being an anomaly or impurity to that Singularity that faith is about.

Iman (faith) and do/be good is hence the watchword repeated many times just because this is the key. Iman is the condition of being whole and not impure.

And to have iman you need to be harmonized to God which I consider to be in a kind of symbiotic state with God.

As you can see my perception of faith is not like others, but yet I take this interpretation out of the book called Quran. But I consider this to be the real faith without a lot of strangeness.

Salat, or contact prayer as it is wrongfully called, is the case of being mindful of what you have been taught/enlightened about and become purified. Nothing magical, just hearkened unto the decree (commandments) taught by God and try to become one with God rather than distance yourself by being impure. Impure could be regarded as being evil, like unfair and oppressive. Consider bad person.

People focus so much on wondering what God wants us to do while it is very obvious. Do deeds that are goodly.

Be whole

The way you describe your faith is very beautiful!
I have met people who are not religious at all, and maybe because of this (and other factors too) they are very self-destructive and abusive to others who are religious. One person I have met that stands out thought it was funny to call my friend a terrorist because she was Muslim. His hateful attitude towards others just because they believe made me very sad. In Australia there seems to be this idea that religious people hate anyone not of their religion, yet I have met people of many different faiths, and it appears to me that the religious people are often very kind and accepting of others it is the non-religious who are more close-minded.

Again, I can't speak for every single person on earth, but I have heard the 'you're crazy if you believe there is a God' response from several people, yet I have never heard 'you're crazy if you don't believe there is a God' from people who believe.

JavaLatte

In Australia there seems to be this idea that religious people hate anyone not of their religion, yet I have met people of many different faiths, and it appears to me that the religious people are often very kind and accepting of others it is the non-religious who are more close-minded.

Bold I suppose my opinion is quite similar with this.

But stay be careful dear, with the fanatics from both (religious and non religious).

Salm.

Man_of_Faith

Peace,

Again, I can't speak for every single person on earth, but I have heard the 'you're crazy if you believe there is a God' response from several people, yet I have never heard 'you're crazy if you don't believe there is a God' from people who believe.

It is because they do not have the right perception of what is God.

If you are relatively smart and look upon faith through the perspective of the sects then it seems very primitive and God is rendered according to that image. I know from own experience because I was brought to faith through my own philosophies of existence and not from "religious scriptures". What prevented me from more carefully analyzing pieces of writing like Qur'an was the pathetic impression of world religions. And I did not join a Christian assembly because I felt it was pathetic to deem Jesus as son of a god, however I deeply inside believed that the Gospels that I read were a testament to the events that happened around Jesus, but it was not until recently I got faith that they were really not fake in any way. The mention of Jesus as "Son of God" is a misconception of the original language just as Father for God is a misunderstanding. Father = Creator and Son of God loosely Man of God or "(come/being) of God", indicating that you are 1.0 on IMAN, i.e. whole (you are healthy/complete in God's symbiosis). I think there are few who are 1.0 that are not also prophets or messengers, because then it means that you are fully able to channel information from God because you feel God like God feels him/her/itself, being a part of the Singularity.

The classical image of God as a grumpy bearded old man in Heaven is a vain image of God, but God is everything that you see, the Singularity you live within without perceiving unless you realize it. This image is what causes sensible people not to have faith in God, because they somehow put blame on God for the atrocities that happen in the world, but God is just a foundation/platform that everything is erected from and is not to blame for the mischief. God left ourselves to choose what we will do and all bad is from ourselves, but if we become whole with God then God will support us through ourselves (it is complicated to explain) and the creation. It is all about entering into symbiosis with our Creator. They often say that if God exists how can God let the oppression happen to the people in Africa for example, but many of the problems (if you allow me to be mean) is due to themselves but of course also due to "white man's" invasion of Africa and the Middle-Eastern populations as well keeping them as slaves and oppressing them. So the guilt runs down on ourselves in the end and The Singularity that we are its mass has no guilt at all in the issues.

And God is of assistance as long as you are one with God or otherwise you are just an anomaly to God and it does not matter if you are oppressed or not. God is not unfair either. You can always join God no matter if you are oppressed or not. I think all the people who are called Homo Sapiens started traveling out from the same original community and were informed in the beginning.

So it is difficult to understand the horror of seeing starving children in Africa, but it is just not really God's fault. Besides dieing can be painful, but if you starve to death while trying to serve God and were whole it could also be a blessing to die, even how gross it may sound.

So those who say you are crazy because you have faith in God do not know what God is. God is not a slave for us and is just a platform on which we live in the kind of allegorical description of a singularity. God is not responsible us anything. Because God does not really interfere is just a reason why God is not a dictator or tyrant like the above image of a bearded grumpy old man who screams from right to left out his anger, but for those who synchronize with God then God will lend support. God punishes, in this world, but that is through ourselves that take care of it by The Singularity's own mechanisms.

God stands for good and those who become one with that and those who are good will be successful.

It feels like I am just rambling without coming to what I wanted to say, so I hope that you will understand anyway... I stop there.

Be whole

Seeking

Bold I suppose my opinion is quite similar with this.

But stay be careful dear, with the fanatics from both (religious and non religious).

Salm.

That is true-you always hear about religious fanatics, but there are non-religious fanatics who are equally as dangerous and hateful. I guess the only thing to do is try to avoid them as best we can.

Seeking