Out of Curiosity.......
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Peace,
Peace es, all,
I agree with progressive also with some additional considerations. I make sure my food is free from pesticides (grown organically) and free of antibiotics and hormones, and the animals and birds have not been fed GMO products such as corn. All so called halal meat stores not only violate the divine commandments but their meat has all the poisons I mentioned above and I avoid it. The GMO free meat is extremely hard to find unless you raise your own animals and birds and feed them organic food.
I also avoid vegetable oils, simple sugars, sugar substitutes like aspartame, splenda etc., trans fat, processed foods, and GMO foods, sodas, junk foods, food dyes, anything containing sodium benzoate etc. (in presence of vitamin C, sodium benzoate becomes benzene which is a petroleum product and extremely carcinogenic).
I also avoid modern wheat even if it is organic whole wheat. For readers interested in more information, please watch this eye opener
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbBURnqYVzw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Among grains, I try to eat only gluten free such as organic brown rice (Indian or Thai - others have high levels of arsenic), buckwheat, quinoa etc.
All fish have some mercury and I avoid fish with high levels of mercury like tuna, swordfish, shark etc. I try to eat only wild fish as opposed to farmed. Wild sockeye salmon is the best. They inject poisonous red dye in farmed salmon to make it look more pink.
Instead of simple sugars I use Xylitol or Stevia, and instead of vegetable oil I use extra virgin organic olive oil for salads or to pour over food, and extra virgin unrefined organic coconut oil for cooking, and refined extra virgin organic coconut oil for frying.
Hope that was helpful for everyone. If anyone has any question about nutrition please feel free to contact me.
May the infinite Creator bless you all.
I've got lots of questions, but I d know where to start!
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Pease es,
I've got lots of questions, but I d know where to start!
Start one at a time )
Regards
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Salaam "progressive",
I have read the ayahs before, thank you.
Would either you or "good logic" eat the meat that has been slaughtered by Sunni Muslims in accordance to their slaughter rituals?
Once youve understood that its about food in general and each INDIVIDUAL who eats must mention the name of God on their food, this will become clear to you.
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Peace "Progressive",
Once youve understood that its about food in general and each INDIVIDUAL who eats must mention the name of God on their food, this will become clear to you.
Perhaps you've misunderstood. I am not asking for advice therefore my understanding, or lack thereof, is irrelevant to the question I posed.
Truthseeker, peace!
Where to start?! I'll write you an exhaustive list of questions when I have a bit more time, Insha'Allah.
Salaam.
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Peace "Progressive",
Perhaps you've misunderstood. I am not asking for advice therefore my understanding, or lack thereof, is irrelevant to the question I posed.
I know. You asked others opinion and what they practice. However, that is irrelevant since snything but following God's law is idol worship.
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Salaam,
I know. You asked others opinion and what they practice. However, that is irrelevant since snything but following God's law is idol worship.
Thank you for your opinion.
I am very interested in different people's opinion and welcome other people's contributions to this thread as well.
Sajda.
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This verse clarifies it better,
Quran 6145
Say, "I do not find within that which was revealed to me forbidden to one who would eat it unless it be a dead animal or blood spilled out or the flesh of swine - for indeed, it is impure -
or it be disobedience, dedicated to other than Allah .
But whoever is forced , neither desiring nor transgressing , then indeed, your Lord is Forgiving and Merciful."Prophet revealed to say, "i do not find anything forbidden to one unless its a dead animal
or blood spilled out or swine flesh, since they are impure,
or something thats not sourced in proper goodness(Allah's) ways.
But still if someone consumes such food forced by necessity and within a limit for ones survival, its no problem.
God is forgiving and merciful"Here there are two things, one is physical impurity related to health and hygiene, the other is the way the food comes to us and the most important part of the verse is the first line, ie some people inventing lies on so and so foods prohibited in the name of God, that we should be aware of.
As of me I will limit eating meat if there are other sources of food available plenty, that gives the same nutrients and will
definitely pray that the food i eat should come from a proper way and think about it before purchasing and consuming. -
Salam es.
On this topic my stance is same as earlier expressed by progressive1993 and Good Logic.
For your other question - if I do eat meat from animals "sacrificed" in sunni way - yes OF COURSE I do. Claiming such meat to be haram would be another innovation in the name of God.
However, if I am aware that an animal has been donated for slaughter (sunni way or otherwise) at the mazaar (mausoleum) / grave of a dead saint (sunni or otherwise), presumably in the hope of extra "blessings"... I would consider such meat haram falling in the category "what is dedicated to other than God".
May Allah guide us all to the straight route.
Regards,
Arman -
Salaam,
Where I live all meat is "halal slaughtered", so it is not much to say, but I disagree that the method is necessary for it to be perfectly drained of blood. And there will always be small quantities of blood remaining in the animal no matter how you do.
The passage speaks of blood in general and for its consumption and it stems from rules of the 'Children of Israel' and that blood is life. But it is also the deliberate consumption of blood alone. Blood is also not suitable for consumption. It is not only because of a dogmatic rule.
As for "mentioning Allah" that is a false translation because it says "regard Allah" as it is a creation of the Rabb. Dhekr has more of a meaning of regard/honor someone than remember.
As for haraam the word means sanctified, but that is another story. The interpreters of the dark ages disregarded that before haraam it says anema (ا which is supposed to say "It (is) not" as a compound of and . By other words it says that the stuff is not recommended/goodly for consumption.
And as for already dead animals this is obvious. Not even atheist hunters take an animal that has died on its own. It has to do with the risk of contamination and disease.
Salaam
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Salaam Arman,
Salam es.
On this topic my stance is same as earlier expressed by progressive1993 and Good Logic.
For your other question - if I do eat meat from animals "sacrificed" in sunni way - yes OF COURSE I do. Claiming such meat to be haram would be another innovation in the name of God.
However, if I am aware that an animal has been donated for slaughter (sunni way or otherwise) at the mazaar (mausoleum) / grave of a dead saint (sunni or otherwise), presumably in the hope of extra "blessings"... I would consider such meat haram falling in the category "what is dedicated to other than God".
May Allah guide us all to the straight route.
Regards,
ArmanThank you for the explanation. My understanding is such that I agree with you on every single point, theoretically. I will explain my perspective on this later and also some reservations which I have.
Peace.
Sajda.
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Salam es
For me method of slaughtering is not an issue but saying bismillah before eating it. In fact I say bismillah on everything I eat. I do eat meat bought from stores who claim it is slaughtered in sunni way and I also eat lawful meat from other stores. There has to be a wisdom in not explaining how to slaughter an animal in The Qur'an.
Peace -
Salam es
There has to be a wisdom in not explaining how to slaughter an animal in The Qur'an.
PeaceOf course, it is not the book for a Pagan religion.
Salaam
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How many people eat "halal" meat slaughtered according to traditional Sunni methods through wilful choice?
Also, what are the environmental, "moral", "philosophical", et cetera factors you take into consideration when making choices about what to eat?
I lived in the area where 'halal' meat is easily accessible, so I eat homemade meat the comes from the halal meat shops. Finding the right meat is not tricky at all.
But I have to make tough choices about food containing alcohol. I once ate the caramel popcorn with rum, and didn't know about it until my someone told me about it. It's not easy to find food that mentions the containing of alcohol or wine. There are even cuisines and food packets from supermarket that are cooked with wine or alcohol without a direct mention.
As for moral factors, I usually eat homemade food rather than outside street food. I avoid eating fried and heavy food and use olive oil for cooking. I also don't drink frizzy drinks but that is because I simply don't like the taste of it.
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Oh God. You really think about your health. No junk food people here alright.
Salaam
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Oh well. They use to say you become what you it. It is quite literal.
Salaam
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Salamun alaik Arman,
For your other question - if I do eat meat from animals "sacrificed" in sunni way - yes OF COURSE I do. Claiming such meat to be haram would be another innovation in the name of God.
The sunni way is to make the animal face the pagan black cube idol of Allat while sacrificing. They say that if faced any other way it would become haram. Wouldn't that make the animal sacrificed to other than Allah (53)?
Regards