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Time To Change Your Paradigm

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    FreedomStands
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    Zeal is also something not taken lightly by GOD.

    It is that separate god delusion which causes those problems when you defend the honor of something, but which you would acts differently about if you knew how close GOD is to yourself. It is not like you have to defend GOD because the sin is returned upon whoever committed it of the same magnitude, and then it is good to be without sin oneself.

    This flat versus round Earth has gotten the better of us all and we show detrimental behavior several of us and that is counted negatively towards our soul status.

    If I was flat earther I would not be so sure about it because it is mainly based on theoretical presumptions.

    If I was round earther I would not be 100% sure the Earth is round even if indications seem to favor that it is. If I was 100% I would let those who theorize upon a flat Earth to have their way.

    Personally I cannot prove I am not deluded, but based on rational thought I favor the scientific claim of a round Earth. Nothing except these conspiracy theories indicate the Earth is flat and an interpretation of an old book. I hope not to be mocked for believing this way.

    Be well

    Exactly! It seems the craziest people are the ones who are 100% sure about anything.

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      http//images.rapgenius.com/93d2bcccaef91d7ba7bac303fe618616.500x382x1.jpg

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          hicham9
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          The darkest hour before the light

          A hidden tressure plain in sight

          For a moment standing still

          They say we're crazy, they say we're ill

          What they don't understand, they fear inside

          What they don't understand, they try to hide

          You can't hide from us! You can't

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            Noon_waalqalami
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            NASA, advanced laboratories do exist and the science works with GPS, satellites, infrared laser guidance systems, etc. and they also have nukes, drones, and missiles precisely calculated to hit a cell phone from many miles away.

            Eratosthenes (276 - 195 BCE) used geometry and shadows of sticks to estimate the circumference of the earth during the summer solstice June 21 between two locations (Alexandria and Syene, Egypt) hence had an angle and distance all that?s required. Likewise he measured tilt of the earth?s axis (23.5 degrees) which gives the seasons.

            Nice video on the math/logic used?
            http//www.mozalearn.com/Extra-Videos-Eratosthenes-209501

            It?s not flat rather an abode which could be hellish or comfortable as a bed...
            3197 provision little furthermore abode theirs hell and wretched al-mihdu/the rest place

            786 did not we make the earth mihdan/rest place of

            Peace

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              Hizbullah
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              It seems so.

              I need to quote this. Thanks, brother.

              Most Welcome sister....

              Peace

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                noshirk
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                Dear pazuzu

                i am really surprised to read what you wrote about flat earth
                I have to review many things in yemen theory now. -\

                it is possible that americans never landed on moon. but flat earth is totally impossible. Totally impossible.
                hope you have only been astrayed in a field that is not your speciality.

                Peace

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                  FreedomStands
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                  The darkest hour before the light

                  A hidden tressure plain in sight

                  For a moment standing still

                  They say we're crazy, they say we're ill

                  What they don't understand, they fear inside

                  What they don't understand, they try to hide

                  You can't hide from us! You can't

                  I don't really care if the Earth is flat or not, why is it a big deal? I don't know if that was ever explained clearly.

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                    noble
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                    I don't really care if the Earth is flat or not, why is it a big deal? I don't know if that was ever explained clearly.

                    Peace

                    Brothers, I am not even sure or absolutely convinced that this whole Universe is Real, when Allah Himself tells me in the Quran on top that it is a mere illusion put together to test me if I believe or not.

                    Further I spend a good solid 1/3 or more of my life sleeping, dreaming of stuff that on the whole makes little sense, and sometimes, because I suffer from a mental illness, a chemical imbalance the latest in Medicine say, I can't always realise which is true, what I dreamt or what I lived -)

                    So, please...

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                      FreedomStands
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                      Peace

                      Brothers, I am not even sure or absolutely convinced that this whole Universe is Real, when Allah Himself tells me in the Quran on top that it is a mere illusion put together to test me if I believe or not.

                      Further I spend a good solid 1/3 or more of my life sleeping, dreaming of stuff that on the whole makes little sense, and sometimes, because I suffer from a mental illness, a chemical imbalance the latest in Medicine say, I can't always realise which is true, what I dreamt or what I lived -)

                      So, please...

                      Which mental illness have you got and what medicines have you tried for it, and what did they do to you in the way of side effects or main effects, and which ones worked or seem to be working?

                      Yeah, I consider it all just information ultimately specific to our own experience, so the Earth or the Universe being this shape or that shape seems kind of the least important thing going on.

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                        noble
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                        Which mental illness have you got and what medicines have you tried for it, and what did they do to you in the way of side effects or main effects, and which ones worked or seem to be working?

                        Yeah, I consider it all just information ultimately specific to our own experience, so the Earth or the Universe being this shape or that shape seems kind of the least important thing going on.

                        Not only that, but when Allah seems repeating in the Quran that as far as we are concerned, what we should be worried about is the after-life, not the one here,

                        though we are meant to survive and deal with the issues of our sustenance in parallel as seeking salvation, not as opposed to it.

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                          noble
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                          Peace,

                          In fact the Space hoaxes is in keeping with the pride business Allah warned us about.

                          Yuri Gagarin is reported to be a fake, concocted by the Russians to show how good they are at space exploration.

                          Instead of debunking them, the Americans concocted the Moon Landings.

                          Does this remind you of something?

                          The Hadiths manufacturers in Islam, the first to fabricate Hadiths were the followers of Ali, instead of exposing them, the Sahabists started making up their own to counteract.

                          Same story repeating itself ad nauseum, instead of sticking with the truth, counteracting lies with bigger lies.

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                            mmkhan
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                            Dear pazuzu

                            i am really surprised to read what you wrote about flat earth
                            I have to review many things in yemen theory now. -\

                            Peace brother,

                            How could you relate two different things? I am really surprised with the responses I am seeing in here.
                            It reminds me of an instance when I said I don't believe in hadith, people decided from themselves that I don't believe in rasools, nabis, sahabas, tabaeen, tabe-tabaeen, etc. etc. etc. ???

                            You should follow what Allah has guided you to and let him follow what Allah has guided him to. How can you people force someone to change what Allah showed him? 549]

                            it is possible that americans never landed on moon. but flat earth is totally impossible. Totally impossible.
                            hope you have only been astrayed in a field that is not your speciality.

                            Peace

                            Red How you are so confident? hmm

                            I was thinking how powerful the gravity is. If gravity is so powerful that it can hold the ocean's water then why don't so tiny dust particles suddenly stick to the ground? hmm How do they fly so long before landing on the ground? It should land on the ground as a tiny piece of iron sticks to a huge magnet within no time.

                            So, I am interested in knowing how this earth gravity is working? Anyone interested in explaining it please? Thanks.

                            May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
                            mmKhan

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                              noble
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                              Peace brother,

                              Red How you are so confident? hmm

                              I was thinking how powerful the gravity is. If gravity is so powerful that it can hold the ocean's water then why don't so tiny dust particles suddenly stick to the ground? hmm How do they fly so long before landing on the ground? It should land on the ground as a tiny piece of iron sticks to a huge magnet within no time.

                              So, I am interested in knowing how this earth gravity is working? Anyone interested in explaining it please? Thanks.

                              May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
                              mmKhan

                              Peace

                              If you are so interested in gravity, maybe you should study Physics, as you need to use tools and experiment to prove or disprove a theory, and the tools are knowledge and apparatus of experimentation.

                              Otherwise, rely on the "experts" which guys like pazuzu don't trust anymore...

                              It's like saying you don't trust medicine and doctors, then stop using them, and good luck to you when you need help with your health...

                              There is a huge difference between theology and practical day to day coping strategies, Allah wants us to be clear about whom the real Boss is, everything else practical, we discover and do as long as He allows us to, within the limits He imposed, and gravity is one of them, since we cannot float naturally, if you disbelieve in gravity, they try floating, LOL! ;-)...

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                                mmkhan
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                                Peace

                                If you are so interested in gravity, maybe you should study Physics, as you need to use tools and experiment to prove or disprove a theory, and the tools are knowledge and apparatus of experimentation.

                                Otherwise, rely on the "experts" which guys like pazuzu don't trust anymore...

                                It's like saying you don't trust medicine and doctors, then stop using them, and good luck to you when you need help with your health...

                                There is a huge difference between theology and practical day to day coping strategies, Allah wants us to be clear about whom the real Boss is, everything else practical, we discover and do as long as He allows us to, within the limits He imposed, and gravity is one of them, since we cannot float naturally, if you disbelieve in gravity, they try floating, LOL! ;-)...

                                Peace bro,

                                This is not the answer to my question.

                                Red If I would have believed and relied on "experts", I would ended up a pagan. My Lord is the one who guides not so called "experts".

                                May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
                                mmKhan

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                                  noble
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                                  Peace,

                                  OK, so when you have to submit to a surgical operation by a Surgeon, or take medicines prescribed to you by a Med, or rely on any piece of technology, you do have to rely on the expertise of those who do these things, no?

                                  Otherwise, do you leave it to Allah and not use any?

                                  Cause and effect are the means to operate in this world, finding out how they do is our job as humans, Allah ensures it is stable and reliable, and we depend on that, I hope you agree?

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                                    mmkhan
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                                    Peace,

                                    OK, so when you have to submit to a surgical operation by a Surgeon, or take medicines prescribed to you by a Med, or rely on any piece of technology, you do have to rely on the expertise of those who do these things, no?

                                    Otherwise, do you leave it to Allah and not use any?

                                    Cause and effect are the means to operate in this world, finding out how they do is our job as humans, Allah ensures it is stable and reliable, and we depend on that, I hope you agree?

                                    Peace brother,

                                    Sorry I don't agree.
                                    I am trying to rely solely on Allah alone for everything.
                                    I am already in practice with the permission of my Lord, Allah. AlhamduliAllah hail

                                    To understand it better, please take a look at this.

                                    May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
                                    mmKhan

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                                      If I would have believed and relied on "experts", I would ended up a pagan. My Lord is the one who guides not so called "experts".

                                      I like this. Maybe this can be a good reminder for me.

                                      Thanks, brother Khan.

                                      @ hicham9

                                      Nice avatar, brother. http//3.bp.blogspot.com/--h4eLCX9klE/UZHjEBYfY2I/AAAAAAAADoo/W5bcUQjtXls/s1600/thumb-up-facebook-emoticon-like-symbol.png

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                                        noble
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                                        Peace brother,

                                        Sorry I don't agree.
                                        I am trying to rely solely on Allah alone for everything.
                                        I am already in practice with the permission of my Lord, Allah. AlhamduliAllah hail

                                        To understand it better, please take a look at this.

                                        May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
                                        mmKhan

                                        Salam
                                        LOL!
                                        Yet you rely on technology to post on the Internet? you don't seem to trust Allah enough to convey your messages more directly, like with thoughts?
                                        Where do you live? do you use some means of transportation, or is it the good trusted donkey, mule, camel or horse?
                                        getting your water from a lake, or is it tap or bottled water?
                                        I can carry on...
                                        Causes will be discontinued for newer ones on the other side, this side is a world of causes and effects.

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                                          noble
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                                          @mmkhan
                                          Peace,
                                          I indulged putting an answer at the end of your thread you pointed me to.

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