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Project: 'Root List'

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    Wakas
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    #103

    peace all,

    Update

    We are looking for volunteers to help make Project Root List even better. Please personal message me if interested. All you need is time and be able to identify Arabic letters. If you already use Project Root List you should find this easy.

    Goal to add a link to an entry in Verbal Idioms of Quran (by Mustansir Mir) for each root entry in Project Root Lst. This will allow users to read up on any verbal idioms associated with the root.

    For those who do not know, idioms are a group of words that together have a meaning other than those of the individual words (e.g. "over the moon", "see the light", "add fuel to the fire", "fall in love" ). Languages such as English, Arabic and probably all others have idioms, and many are used in Quran. This will allow students to study it in more detail.

    Currently Project Root List provides for every root word in Quran

    Classical Arabic meanings
    list of every word occurrence in Quran, broken down with grammar information for each
    Link to Lane's Lexicon root entry
    A link to corpus.quran.com to allow further examination of occurrences and grammar information

    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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      Wakas
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      peace all,

      Important update

      Each root in Project Root List has now been linked to more sources, making it even more comprehensive.

      Each root entry
      Links to corpus.quran.com
      Allowing word-by-word analysis of each Quran occurrence and its grammar information

      Concordance list of Quran occurrences for each derived word from the root, separated by form

      Summarised list of classical arabic dictionary meanings.

      Link to Lane's Lexicon entry.

      Link to the relevant entry in www.ejtaal.net giving access to
      Lisan al Arab
      Arabic-English dictionary of Quranic usage
      Steinglass
      Verbal Idioms of Quran
      and many others in Urdu, French etc.

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        Timotheus
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        #105

        Salam,

        I am a user of PRL and i think it is very good, my only issue being the search-ability of the text file, which i find sometimes is inconsistent in naming letters and not easily searchable. I have a few other suggestions i would like to discuss. If there is any way i can help then I will God willing.

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          Wakas
          wrote on last edited by
          #106

          Feel free to state your suggestions here.

          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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            Timotheus
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            #107

            speaking from experience with the text file, which i use because most of the time im offline, it is quite hard to search, because of the inconsistencies in Naming/transliterating the Arabic letters. i have partially remedied this in the text file i use by renaming the radicals using a simple search and replace, to an easier transliteration, which i hope does not breach any kind copyright, as its only for my own personal use. Also that some entries are written as for example t-a/w-r. Which is very hard to search for, it would be better to be written as t-a-r / t-w-r for the sake of search ability. In the text file i use i have used the following to transliterate, mainly because I easily get confused with letters like Dhal, Thal, Za, Zay. and for the sake of searchability

            a
            b
            t
            th
            j
            H
            kh
            d
            dh
            r
            z
            s
            sh
            S
            D
            T
            TH
            A
            g
            f
            q
            k
            l
            m
            n
            h
            y
            w
            '

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              Timotheus
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              #108

              Also, a changelog / version number in the files and on the website would be good so that we can keep updated.

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                Wakas
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                #109

                I agree with you on the standardisation of the letters. Different compilers led to this issue. This is somewhat remedied by the apps which you can use offline.

                There is a % complete on the homepage.

                http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm

                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                  Timotheus
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                  #110

                  @wakas i am aware you have a percentage of completeness on the website, however, for the sake of those (like me) who use it offline in pdf or text format i think a version would be helpfull so we can keep updated

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                    Timotheus
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                    #111

                    also an entry under Ya'kulu (imp. 3rd. p. m. sing.) He cats. i believe is supposed to read 'He eats'

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                      smmirza1
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                      #112

                      Salaam Wakas,
                      I just wanted to say thank you for this amazing project. I use the PRL site extensively while reading the Quran and no doubt it clarifies a lot of things and gives me a better insight into the verses. I can purchase/rent the book 'A Concordance of the Qur'an' and help you guys out if you need another hand.
                      I also emailed the admin on PRL website but have not gotten a response yet.

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                        Timotheus
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                        Salaam Wakas,
                        I just wanted to say thank you for this amazing project. I use the PRL site extensively while reading the Quran and no doubt it clarifies a lot of things and gives me a better insight into the verses. I can purchase/rent the book 'A Concordance of the Qur'an' and help you guys out if you need another hand.
                        I also emailed the admin on PRL website but have not gotten a response yet.

                        Responses seem to be very slow in this world as you can see from my previous post from October. He cats is still there

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                          Wakas
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                          #114

                          peace,

                          smmirza1,
                          There are only a few things that need done

                          1. Error-checking - anyone can report those here.
                          2. Possibly improving the app for android, and maybe creating one for iOS.

                          Timotheus,
                          It has now been updated, thanks.

                          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                            Wakas
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                            #115

                            Android app uploaded to popular site
                            https//www.apkfiles.com/apk-520723/project-root-list

                            It's an older version though.

                            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                              Comrox
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                              #116

                              I understand these kind of projects take time and the people capable of getting them completed, but I see on the website that PRL is listed as incomplete at 93%, as it has for some time now. Is there any estimated time for when users can hope for the project to be completed?

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                                Wakas
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                                #117

                                It is pretty much finished but the last part was going to be adding even more grammar detail for each word occurrence by incorporating the updated grammatical info from corpus.quran.com into PRL but Corpus has not been updated in a long time and may never be.

                                Even if it was updated I probably wouldn't have the time to oversee its incorporation but by linking to corpus this would have reduced the issue somewhat.

                                Look under the first few root entries under Saad to get an idea of what we were aiming for.

                                The next step could be to produce an app for iOS/Apple devices which would be handy but I really dislike Apple's long and costly bureaucratic process for app creation so cant be bothered dealing with it, but of course others are welcome to create one as long as its not for profit. Could put out a call for funds and just award this job to an app creation company to do for us. What do people think?

                                Does anyone know of an existing iOS app that is a Quran concordance/dictionary/grammar in one?

                                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                  TellMeTheTruth
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                                  Salamun, Brothers & Sisters!

                                  PRLOnline is very useful source. But I am unable to see my very favourite dictionary 'Brills' any more. Can you tell me where can i download or view Brills dictionary without paying?

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                                    The_Sardar
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                                    Salamun, Brothers & Sisters!

                                    PRLOnline is very useful source. But I am unable to see my very favourite dictionary 'Brills' any more. Can you tell me where can i download or view Brills dictionary without paying?

                                    Bold I never heard of Brills dictionary. Could explain it to me?

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                                      Wakas
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                                      #120

                                      He is likely referring to
                                      http//www.brill.com/arabic-english-dictionary-quranic-usage

                                      You can get it here
                                      https//archive.org/details/EnArabicEnglishDictionaryQuranicUsage

                                      I recommend everyone to download it. Do not think an online link will last forever. Same with the books on here.

                                      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                        huruf
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                                        He is likely referring to
                                        http//www.brill.com/arabic-english-dictionary-quranic-usage

                                        You can get it here
                                        https//archive.org/details/EnArabicEnglishDictionaryQuranicUsage

                                        I recommend everyone to download it. Do not think an online link will last forever. Same with the books on here.

                                        Thank you for the advice and the links, great help.

                                        Salaam

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                                          TellMeTheTruth
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                                          Salam & Thanks, Wakas! )

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