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  • WakasW Offline
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    Wakas
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    #104

    peace all,

    Important update

    Each root in Project Root List has now been linked to more sources, making it even more comprehensive.

    Each root entry
    Links to corpus.quran.com
    Allowing word-by-word analysis of each Quran occurrence and its grammar information

    Concordance list of Quran occurrences for each derived word from the root, separated by form

    Summarised list of classical arabic dictionary meanings.

    Link to Lane's Lexicon entry.

    Link to the relevant entry in www.ejtaal.net giving access to
    Lisan al Arab
    Arabic-English dictionary of Quranic usage
    Steinglass
    Verbal Idioms of Quran
    and many others in Urdu, French etc.

    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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      Timotheus
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      #105

      Salam,

      I am a user of PRL and i think it is very good, my only issue being the search-ability of the text file, which i find sometimes is inconsistent in naming letters and not easily searchable. I have a few other suggestions i would like to discuss. If there is any way i can help then I will God willing.

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        Wakas
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        #106

        Feel free to state your suggestions here.

        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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          Timotheus
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          #107

          speaking from experience with the text file, which i use because most of the time im offline, it is quite hard to search, because of the inconsistencies in Naming/transliterating the Arabic letters. i have partially remedied this in the text file i use by renaming the radicals using a simple search and replace, to an easier transliteration, which i hope does not breach any kind copyright, as its only for my own personal use. Also that some entries are written as for example t-a/w-r. Which is very hard to search for, it would be better to be written as t-a-r / t-w-r for the sake of search ability. In the text file i use i have used the following to transliterate, mainly because I easily get confused with letters like Dhal, Thal, Za, Zay. and for the sake of searchability

          a
          b
          t
          th
          j
          H
          kh
          d
          dh
          r
          z
          s
          sh
          S
          D
          T
          TH
          A
          g
          f
          q
          k
          l
          m
          n
          h
          y
          w
          '

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            Timotheus
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            #108

            Also, a changelog / version number in the files and on the website would be good so that we can keep updated.

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              Wakas
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              #109

              I agree with you on the standardisation of the letters. Different compilers led to this issue. This is somewhat remedied by the apps which you can use offline.

              There is a % complete on the homepage.

              http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm

              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                Timotheus
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                #110

                @wakas i am aware you have a percentage of completeness on the website, however, for the sake of those (like me) who use it offline in pdf or text format i think a version would be helpfull so we can keep updated

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                  Timotheus
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                  #111

                  also an entry under Ya'kulu (imp. 3rd. p. m. sing.) He cats. i believe is supposed to read 'He eats'

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                    smmirza1
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                    #112

                    Salaam Wakas,
                    I just wanted to say thank you for this amazing project. I use the PRL site extensively while reading the Quran and no doubt it clarifies a lot of things and gives me a better insight into the verses. I can purchase/rent the book 'A Concordance of the Qur'an' and help you guys out if you need another hand.
                    I also emailed the admin on PRL website but have not gotten a response yet.

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                      Timotheus
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                      #113

                      Salaam Wakas,
                      I just wanted to say thank you for this amazing project. I use the PRL site extensively while reading the Quran and no doubt it clarifies a lot of things and gives me a better insight into the verses. I can purchase/rent the book 'A Concordance of the Qur'an' and help you guys out if you need another hand.
                      I also emailed the admin on PRL website but have not gotten a response yet.

                      Responses seem to be very slow in this world as you can see from my previous post from October. He cats is still there

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                        Wakas
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                        #114

                        peace,

                        smmirza1,
                        There are only a few things that need done

                        1. Error-checking - anyone can report those here.
                        2. Possibly improving the app for android, and maybe creating one for iOS.

                        Timotheus,
                        It has now been updated, thanks.

                        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                          Wakas
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                          #115

                          Android app uploaded to popular site
                          https//www.apkfiles.com/apk-520723/project-root-list

                          It's an older version though.

                          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                            Comrox
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                            I understand these kind of projects take time and the people capable of getting them completed, but I see on the website that PRL is listed as incomplete at 93%, as it has for some time now. Is there any estimated time for when users can hope for the project to be completed?

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                              Wakas
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                              #117

                              It is pretty much finished but the last part was going to be adding even more grammar detail for each word occurrence by incorporating the updated grammatical info from corpus.quran.com into PRL but Corpus has not been updated in a long time and may never be.

                              Even if it was updated I probably wouldn't have the time to oversee its incorporation but by linking to corpus this would have reduced the issue somewhat.

                              Look under the first few root entries under Saad to get an idea of what we were aiming for.

                              The next step could be to produce an app for iOS/Apple devices which would be handy but I really dislike Apple's long and costly bureaucratic process for app creation so cant be bothered dealing with it, but of course others are welcome to create one as long as its not for profit. Could put out a call for funds and just award this job to an app creation company to do for us. What do people think?

                              Does anyone know of an existing iOS app that is a Quran concordance/dictionary/grammar in one?

                              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                TellMeTheTruth
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                                Salamun, Brothers & Sisters!

                                PRLOnline is very useful source. But I am unable to see my very favourite dictionary 'Brills' any more. Can you tell me where can i download or view Brills dictionary without paying?

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                                  The_Sardar
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                                  Salamun, Brothers & Sisters!

                                  PRLOnline is very useful source. But I am unable to see my very favourite dictionary 'Brills' any more. Can you tell me where can i download or view Brills dictionary without paying?

                                  Bold I never heard of Brills dictionary. Could explain it to me?

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                                    Wakas
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                                    #120

                                    He is likely referring to
                                    http//www.brill.com/arabic-english-dictionary-quranic-usage

                                    You can get it here
                                    https//archive.org/details/EnArabicEnglishDictionaryQuranicUsage

                                    I recommend everyone to download it. Do not think an online link will last forever. Same with the books on here.

                                    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                      huruf
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                                      #121

                                      He is likely referring to
                                      http//www.brill.com/arabic-english-dictionary-quranic-usage

                                      You can get it here
                                      https//archive.org/details/EnArabicEnglishDictionaryQuranicUsage

                                      I recommend everyone to download it. Do not think an online link will last forever. Same with the books on here.

                                      Thank you for the advice and the links, great help.

                                      Salaam

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                                        TellMeTheTruth
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                                        Salam & Thanks, Wakas! )

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                                          Mazhar
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                                          #123

                                          Thank you for the advice and the links, great help.

                                          Salaam

                                          Another source of semantics of Quran.

                                          It lists all the Roots, and words stemming from them that occur in Qur'aan, with their morphological specifications;

                                          Semantic field -concept of Root; ayahs where used; plus related Roots; and link to Lane's Lexicon and classical lexicons.

                                          Semantics of Quran

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