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Is modern technology mentioned in the quran...?

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    Alen
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    As salamu alaykum.
    Respectfully.

    I'm sorry if i misunderstood the story with Suleyman.
    When the jinn said in the blink of an eye, i thought, literally, but if i am mistaken, i'm sorry.

    As salamu alaykum.

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      arnoldyasin
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      Peace,

      Dear Alen no need to say sorry! I was just giving some extra info...Please keep contuining sharing your ideas.

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        Alen
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        As salamu alaykum.
        Respectfully.

        Here's a proof about CEREBRAL CORTEX

        The Quran on the Cerebrum
        Allah said in the Quran about one of the evil unbelievers who forbade the Prophet Muhammad from praying at the kaaba
        "Let him beware! If he does not stop, We will take him by the Naseyah (front of the head), a lying, sinful Naseyah (front of the head)!"( Quran, 9615-16)
        Why did the Quran describe the front of the head as being lying and sinful? Why didn't the Quran say that the person was lying and sinful? What is the relationship between the front of the head and lying and sinfulness?
        If we look into the skull at the front of the head, we will find the prefrontal area of the cerebrum (see figure 12). What does physiology tell us about the function of this area? A book entitled Essentials o Anatomy & Physiology says about this area, "The motivation and the foresight to plan and initiate movements occur in the anterior portion of the frontal lobes, the prefrontal area.This is a region of association cortex..."' Also the book says, "In relation to its involvement in motivation, the prefrontal area is also thought to be the functional center for aggression...."
        Figure 12 Functional regions of the left hemisphere of the cerebral cortex. The prefrontal area is located at the front of the cerebral cortex. (Essentials of Anatomy & Physiology, Seeley and others, p. 210.)
        So, this area of the cerebrum is responsible for planning, motivating, and initiating good and sinful behavior, and is responsible for the telling of lies and the speaking of truth. Thus, it is proper to describe the front of the head as lying and sinful when someone lies or commits a sin, as the Quran said,"... A lying, sinful Naseyah (front of the head)!"
        Scientists have only discovered these functions of the prefrontal area in the last sixty years, according to Professor Keith L. Moore.

        As salamu alaykum.

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          arnoldyasin
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          Peace,

          Alen, here are some sites on the subjects

          http//www.55a.net/eng/28.htm
          file///C/Documents%20and%20Settings/Arnold%20Mol/Local%20Settings/Temporary%20Internet%20Files/Content.IE5/F6R8VHCA/ExecutiveFunctionsandtheFrontalLobes%5B1%5D.ppt#287,2,Stages of Memory
          http//lobotomy.info/beta/psychosurgery/chapter02.html
          http//news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4268260.stm
          http//www.55a.net/eng/28.htm]http//radiology.rsnajnls.org/cgi/content/abstract/238/2/679]http//www.55a.net/eng/28.htm
          file///C/Documents%20and%20Settings/Arnold%20Mol/Local%20Settings/Temporary%20Internet%20Files/Content.IE5/F6R8VHCA/ExecutiveFunctionsandtheFrontalLobes%5B1%5D.ppt#287,2,Stages of Memory
          http//lobotomy.info/beta/psychosurgery/chapter02.html
          http//news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4268260.stm
          http//radiology.rsnajnls.org/cgi/content/abstract/238/2/679

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            Alen
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            As salamu alaykum.
            Respectfully.

            Thanks, Arnoldyasin.
            It's an excellent read.

            As salamu alaykum.

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              ashraf77uk
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              Hey savage-carrot, why qur'an should mention about your little electronic pocket devices? you're not taking them with your grave, are you? Qur'an is a guidance for every human being, this life and after, and not just for 21st century, also since 1400 year's ago it was revealed so i dont understand how you came up with your apple toys? And yeah qur'an does quote some scientific information which are important to us to know about, not about how your iPhone will work, but how in future things you don't know about will bring people closer, and that was explained to people over thousand years ago which means whole technology system. Now the things you've been thinking of, why allah should mention that in qur'an anyway? Allah gave us brain to built such things in modern technology, did anyone ever thought of this? If allah wanted, could have make us brainless. People should think carefully how allah created human beings with brain they can use to discover so much

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                savage_carrot
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                What are you on about?

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                  imrankhawaja
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                  Peace all. If the quran is a book containing 'irrefutable' science,and is guidance for all times/today,then where are the verses on tv,test tube babies,internet,nuclear power,cloning,automobiles,genetically modified food,transistor radios,ipods,mobile phones,vcrs,electricity,carbon dating,etc,etc...?
                  This is very conclusive,irrefutable,provable,tangible,easily available,obvious mainstream technology,and cannot all be denied...
                  Is the book incomplete,did god forget,or is there some other explanation...?
                  Peace all.

                  everything is mention,,, it depends on the level of understanding... at that age tecnology was just accessed by some next level Godly people and prophets,,,

                  stated from moses staff,,,, a stick that make a barrier between the river.... even modern tecnology cannot ripped apart the flow of water,,, with their tecnology they can only make bridges...

                  noah,,, the very first scientist of history he make a boat ,,, that flows on water...

                  dhulqarnain,,,, a voyager who travels from one edge of world to another edge,,, and got some next level tecnologies to create a wall ,,,using some metal in it to make it strong,,, ( modern builiding system)...

                  jesus christ,,, use some next level tecnology to treat the blind,,, unhealthy people,,, the one who clone and fill the spirirt in clone of birds,,,(by Allaz will) modern tecnolgy only can make tissues of body ,, with the help of our own tissues,,, but still unable to put a soul in it,,, far behind,,,

                  david,,, the father of singing,,, with his voice the birds and mountains and air make a sound that comaptible with his voice... modern singers try to sing outdoor but ,,, the idea of all media and singing came from david,,,

                  solomon,,, accoridng to the events that describe regarding solomon ,,, its easily understand that he got some next level internat tecnology in the form of porting physical things from one sie to another,,, ( modern science just allowed us to transfer images and words and voice in the shape of signals,,,, far behind from the tecnolgoy solomon acccessed,,,)...

                  prophet muhammad..... time travelling,,, motions of galaxies ,,, expansion of space,,, all he observed in night journey...is it not enough.... untill einstien,,, theory of relativity,,, night journey was suppossed to be a fairy tale,,, but with the help of our understanding we just start unveling secrets...

                  i have lot more to write but ,,, what tecnology ,,, what science,,, your science need to travel a looooooooooong journey to even understand the tecnology what prophets use,,,

                  haha they are asking why modern tecnology is not mention,,, my brothers the tecnology which is mention in quran is far far greater than the modern tecnology u have today,,,

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                    time travelling,,, motions of galaxies ,,, expansion of space,,, all he observed in night journey...

                    Hi,

                    Are you serious?

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                      Man_of_Faith
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                      He seems like a traditional style Muslim so I think so.

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                        imrankhawaja
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                        Hi,

                        Are you serious?

                        ,, yeh i am serious,,, no point of joking,,,

                        and some verses for people who have have brain to ponder,,,,,

                        537 While he was at the highest horizon.
                        538 Then he drew nearer by moving down.
                        539 Until he became as near as two bowlengths
                        or nearer.
                        5310 He then conveyed the inspiration to His
                        servant what was to be revealed.
                        5311 The heart did not invent what it saw.
                        5312 Do you doubt him in what he saw?
                        5313 Indeed, he saw him in another descent.
                        5314 At the ultimate point.
                        5315 Near is the eternal Paradise.
                        5316 The whole place was overwhelmed.
                        5317 The eyes did not waver, nor go blind.
                        5318 He has seen from the great signs of his
                        Lord.

                        the things i mention may b a tiny bit,,, about our own imagination,,,

                        i you want to argue then make something that reach to that point,,, and there is no cure of jealousy which jews and christians have from muslims because they was thinking last prophet will come from them,,,,

                        so if u think i m traditional muslim it will not change any fact...my brother,,,i am what i m,,, alhamdulliah,,, try to handle the envy it leads towards unsuccess... when i was describing the tecnology of other prophets no body claim anyting ,,, but as soon praised one (muhammad) name u listen u guys have something pain started somewhere probably in the head,,, God bless you all ,,,

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                          huruf
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                          ,, yeh i am serious,,, no point of joking,,,

                          and some verses for people who have have brain to ponder,,,,,

                          537 While he was at the highest horizon.
                          538 Then he drew nearer by moving down.
                          539 Until he became as near as two bowlengths
                          or nearer.
                          5310 He then conveyed the inspiration to His
                          servant what was to be revealed.
                          5311 The heart did not invent what it saw.
                          5312 Do you doubt him in what he saw?
                          5313 Indeed, he saw him in another descent.
                          5314 At the ultimate point.
                          5315 Near is the eternal Paradise.
                          5316 The whole place was overwhelmed.
                          5317 The eyes did not waver, nor go blind.
                          5318 He has seen from the great signs of his
                          Lord.

                          the things i mention may b a tiny bit,,, about our own imagination,,,

                          i you want to argue then make something that reach to that point,,, and there is no cure of jealousy which jews and christians have from muslims because they was thinking last prophet will come from them,,,,

                          so if u think i m traditional muslim it will not change any fact...my brother,,,i am what i m,,, alhamdulliah,,, try to handle the envy it leads towards unsuccess... when i was describing the tecnology of other prophets no body claim anyting ,,, but as soon praised one (muhammad) name u listen u guys have something pain started somewhere probably in the head,,, God bless you all ,,,

                          I would like to really know what you are sayin in this message or on others. The way you write, and the punctuation I never know who is speaking or about what.

                          Salaam

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                            savage_carrot
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                            I would like to really know what you are sayin in this message or on others. The way you write, and the punctuation I never know who is speaking or about what.

                            Salaam

                            I think he's using the phone, at least I hope he's using the phone and perhaps has farsightedness? Otherwise I really don't understand why these commas are so prevalent. I did give myself a headache or as imrankhawaja would say 'something pain started somewhere probably in the head' interpreting the post but here is what I have

                            ,, yeh i am serious,,, no point of joking,,,
                            Very serious in response to Bender. Not joking at all.

                            the things i mention may b a tiny bit,,, about our own imagination,,,
                            He is only maybe using a tiny bit from his own imagination to embellish/add.

                            i you want to argue then make something that reach to that point,,,
                            If anyone wants to argue with him, they must use um, arguments.

                            and there is no cure of jealousy which jews and christians have from muslims because they was thinking last prophet will come from them,,,,
                            Apparently jews and christians are jealous of muslims because they thought the last prophet was theirs.

                            so if u think i m traditional muslim it will not change any fact...my brother,,,i am what i m,,, alhamdulliah,
                            He is what he is and there is no one else he can be. Praise the Lord.

                            try to handle the envy it leads towards unsuccess
                            Envy leads to lack of success.

                            when i was describing the tecnology of other prophets no body claim anyting ,,, but as soon praised one (muhammad) name u listen u guys have something pain started somewhere probably in the head,,,
                            You guys had a headache when the praised one (muhammad)'s name was mentioned.

                            And for the love of anything dear, please stop using commas inappropriately. It looks like spam and is borderline unintelligible. Thank you.

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                              Bender
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                              ,, yeh i am serious,,, no point of joking,,,

                              and some verses for people who have have brain to ponder,,,,,

                              537 While he was at the highest horizon.
                              538 Then he drew nearer by moving down.
                              539 Until he became as near as two bowlengths
                              or nearer.
                              5310 He then conveyed the inspiration to His
                              servant what was to be revealed.
                              5311 The heart did not invent what it saw.
                              5312 Do you doubt him in what he saw?
                              5313 Indeed, he saw him in another descent.
                              5314 At the ultimate point.
                              5315 Near is the eternal Paradise.
                              5316 The whole place was overwhelmed.
                              5317 The eyes did not waver, nor go blind.
                              5318 He has seen from the great signs of his
                              Lord.

                              the things i mention may b a tiny bit,,, about our own imagination,,,

                              i you want to argue then make something that reach to that point,,,

                              Hi,

                              Where do you read, time travelling or moving galaxies or expanding space in the verses?

                              and there is no cure of jealousy which jews and christians have from muslims because they was thinking last prophet will come from them,,,,

                              ok

                              so if u think i m traditional muslim it will not change any fact...my brother,,,i am what i m,,, alhamdulliah,,, try to handle the envy it leads towards unsuccess...

                              ok

                              when i was describing the tecnology of other prophets no body claim anyting

                              With some imagination I could understand that you probably understood some verses like how you described them

                              ,,, but as soon praised one (muhammad) name u listen u guys have something pain started somewhere probably in the head,,, God bless you all ,,,

                              I am only 1 person.

                              The technology you described to Muhammed, was above my imagination, that's why asked this.
                              Time-travelling is only possible in hollywood.
                              To "see" galaxies moving you need a little bit more then 1 night and you need some magic eyes.
                              And I can not even imagine what kind of eyes one needs, to see space expanding.

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                                imrankhawaja
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                                http//free-minds.org/far-horizon

                                guys whats this article is talking about,,,,

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                                  imrankhawaja
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                                  Hi,

                                  Where do you read, time travelling or moving galaxies or expanding space in the verses?
                                  ok

                                  ok
                                  With some imagination I could understand that you probably understood some verses like how you described them
                                  I am only 1 person.

                                  The technology you described to Muhammed, was above my imagination, that's why asked this.
                                  Time-travelling is only possible in hollywood.
                                  To "see" galaxies moving you need a little bit more then 1 night and you need some magic eyes.
                                  And I can not even imagine what kind of eyes one needs, to see space expanding.

                                  PICKTHALL
                                  He directeth the ordinance from the heaven unto the earth; then it ascendeth unto Him in a Day, whereof the measure is a thousand years of that ye reckon. 32 5

                                  SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
                                  He arranges matter from the heaven to the earth; then it will ascend to Him in a Day, the extent of which is a thousand years of those which you count. 32 5

                                  PICKTHALL
                                  (Whereby) the angels and the Spirit ascend unto Him in a Day whereof the span is fifty thousand years. 704

                                  SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
                                  The angels and the Spirit will ascend to Him during a Day the extent of which is fifty thousand years.704..

                                  PICKTHALL
                                  And they will bid thee hasten on the Doom, and Allah faileth not His promise, but lo! a Day with Allah is as a thousand years of what ye reckon.

                                  SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
                                  And they urge you to hasten the punishment. But Allah will never fail in His promise. And indeed, a day with your Lord is like a thousand years of those which you count. 2247....

                                  what you will say now? hollywood is so behind.

                                  sorry for my writing style all of you guys... about these dots.

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                                    imrankhawaja
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                                    And for the love of anything dear, please stop using commas inappropriately. It looks like spam and is borderline unintelligible. Thank you.

                                    i m sorry due to my writting style . and english is not my first language. its just typing mistake sometimes . sorry about it . i try to be careful next time.

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                                      @ guys. i may be wrong. but my brother remember me some hollywood fiction. i just want to see this fiction or fact in the light of quran. when i read these signs of holy quran. i think for a while whether its anlien beings or extraterrostrial.. have a look plz.

                                      PICKTHALL
                                      And of His portents is the creation of the heaven and the earth, and of whatever beasts He hath dispersed therein. And He is Able to gather them when He will.

                                      SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
                                      And of his signs is the creation of the heavens and earth and what He has dispersed throughout them of creatures. And He, for gathering them when He wills, is competent.

                                      YUSUF ALI
                                      And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the living creatures that He has scattered through them and He has power to gather them together when He wills. 4229

                                      peace

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                                        huruf
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                                        There re things in the ld writings of sumerians, peoples of the Americas and other parts of the world, that make one wonder... Archeology has made its blunders also and continues to make them.There are many things we do not know and we fill the blanks with the "findings" of archeologists who finally are human and expected to respect established concepts many times grounded on unquestioned assumptions which seemed like unavoidable at a time but which may be completely baseless.

                                        May be there should be a more daring archeology. Or may be there is but is not acknowledged by the estaablishment.

                                        Wha to me seemsunquestionable from the Qur'an is that this is not the first Humanity.

                                        Salaam

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                                          Bender
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                                          http//free-minds.org/far-horizon

                                          guys whats this article is talking about,,,,

                                          hi,

                                          In the end of the article you can read this

                                          IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER

                                          ?This is the book, no doubt, in it guidance for the cautious.? (22)

                                          Tomorrow our understanding of the Quran and the Universe will evolve, except if God wills otherwise. This article reflects my personal interpretation of the Quranic verses as of September 13th, 2001. Please be humble by following the example set by the angels in 232, verify all information within for yourself as commanded by God in 1736, and remember that simply ?none? is the cautious answer to God?s question in 456.

                                          @ guys. i may be wrong. but my brother remember me some hollywood fiction. i just want to see this fiction or fact in the light of quran. when i read these signs of holy quran. i think for a while whether its anlien beings or extraterrostrial.. have a look plz.

                                          PICKTHALL
                                          And of His portents is the creation of the heaven and the earth, and of whatever beasts He hath dispersed therein. And He is Able to gather them when He will.
                                          4229
                                          peace

                                          PICKTHALL
                                          He directeth the ordinance from the heaven unto the earth; then it ascendeth unto Him in a Day, whereof the measure is a thousand years of that ye reckon. 32 5

                                          PICKTHALL
                                          (Whereby) the angels and the Spirit ascend unto Him in a Day whereof the span is fifty thousand years. 704

                                          PICKTHALL
                                          And they will bid thee hasten on the Doom, and Allah faileth not His promise, but lo! a Day with Allah is as a thousand years of what ye reckon.

                                          what you will say now? hollywood is so behind.

                                          sorry for my writing style all of you guys... about these dots

                                          RED In earlier post of you, you said that Mohammed has observed some things.
                                          The verses you quoted above are not about Mohammed observing something.
                                          And the verses you quoted are per my understanding not about time-traveling or motion of galaxies or expansion of space but I could be wrong.

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