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Is modern technology mentioned in the quran...?

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    Bender
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    time travelling,,, motions of galaxies ,,, expansion of space,,, all he observed in night journey...

    Hi,

    Are you serious?

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      Man_of_Faith
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      He seems like a traditional style Muslim so I think so.

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        imrankhawaja
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        Hi,

        Are you serious?

        ,, yeh i am serious,,, no point of joking,,,

        and some verses for people who have have brain to ponder,,,,,

        537 While he was at the highest horizon.
        538 Then he drew nearer by moving down.
        539 Until he became as near as two bowlengths
        or nearer.
        5310 He then conveyed the inspiration to His
        servant what was to be revealed.
        5311 The heart did not invent what it saw.
        5312 Do you doubt him in what he saw?
        5313 Indeed, he saw him in another descent.
        5314 At the ultimate point.
        5315 Near is the eternal Paradise.
        5316 The whole place was overwhelmed.
        5317 The eyes did not waver, nor go blind.
        5318 He has seen from the great signs of his
        Lord.

        the things i mention may b a tiny bit,,, about our own imagination,,,

        i you want to argue then make something that reach to that point,,, and there is no cure of jealousy which jews and christians have from muslims because they was thinking last prophet will come from them,,,,

        so if u think i m traditional muslim it will not change any fact...my brother,,,i am what i m,,, alhamdulliah,,, try to handle the envy it leads towards unsuccess... when i was describing the tecnology of other prophets no body claim anyting ,,, but as soon praised one (muhammad) name u listen u guys have something pain started somewhere probably in the head,,, God bless you all ,,,

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          huruf
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          ,, yeh i am serious,,, no point of joking,,,

          and some verses for people who have have brain to ponder,,,,,

          537 While he was at the highest horizon.
          538 Then he drew nearer by moving down.
          539 Until he became as near as two bowlengths
          or nearer.
          5310 He then conveyed the inspiration to His
          servant what was to be revealed.
          5311 The heart did not invent what it saw.
          5312 Do you doubt him in what he saw?
          5313 Indeed, he saw him in another descent.
          5314 At the ultimate point.
          5315 Near is the eternal Paradise.
          5316 The whole place was overwhelmed.
          5317 The eyes did not waver, nor go blind.
          5318 He has seen from the great signs of his
          Lord.

          the things i mention may b a tiny bit,,, about our own imagination,,,

          i you want to argue then make something that reach to that point,,, and there is no cure of jealousy which jews and christians have from muslims because they was thinking last prophet will come from them,,,,

          so if u think i m traditional muslim it will not change any fact...my brother,,,i am what i m,,, alhamdulliah,,, try to handle the envy it leads towards unsuccess... when i was describing the tecnology of other prophets no body claim anyting ,,, but as soon praised one (muhammad) name u listen u guys have something pain started somewhere probably in the head,,, God bless you all ,,,

          I would like to really know what you are sayin in this message or on others. The way you write, and the punctuation I never know who is speaking or about what.

          Salaam

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            savage_carrot
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            I would like to really know what you are sayin in this message or on others. The way you write, and the punctuation I never know who is speaking or about what.

            Salaam

            I think he's using the phone, at least I hope he's using the phone and perhaps has farsightedness? Otherwise I really don't understand why these commas are so prevalent. I did give myself a headache or as imrankhawaja would say 'something pain started somewhere probably in the head' interpreting the post but here is what I have

            ,, yeh i am serious,,, no point of joking,,,
            Very serious in response to Bender. Not joking at all.

            the things i mention may b a tiny bit,,, about our own imagination,,,
            He is only maybe using a tiny bit from his own imagination to embellish/add.

            i you want to argue then make something that reach to that point,,,
            If anyone wants to argue with him, they must use um, arguments.

            and there is no cure of jealousy which jews and christians have from muslims because they was thinking last prophet will come from them,,,,
            Apparently jews and christians are jealous of muslims because they thought the last prophet was theirs.

            so if u think i m traditional muslim it will not change any fact...my brother,,,i am what i m,,, alhamdulliah,
            He is what he is and there is no one else he can be. Praise the Lord.

            try to handle the envy it leads towards unsuccess
            Envy leads to lack of success.

            when i was describing the tecnology of other prophets no body claim anyting ,,, but as soon praised one (muhammad) name u listen u guys have something pain started somewhere probably in the head,,,
            You guys had a headache when the praised one (muhammad)'s name was mentioned.

            And for the love of anything dear, please stop using commas inappropriately. It looks like spam and is borderline unintelligible. Thank you.

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              Bender
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              #146

              ,, yeh i am serious,,, no point of joking,,,

              and some verses for people who have have brain to ponder,,,,,

              537 While he was at the highest horizon.
              538 Then he drew nearer by moving down.
              539 Until he became as near as two bowlengths
              or nearer.
              5310 He then conveyed the inspiration to His
              servant what was to be revealed.
              5311 The heart did not invent what it saw.
              5312 Do you doubt him in what he saw?
              5313 Indeed, he saw him in another descent.
              5314 At the ultimate point.
              5315 Near is the eternal Paradise.
              5316 The whole place was overwhelmed.
              5317 The eyes did not waver, nor go blind.
              5318 He has seen from the great signs of his
              Lord.

              the things i mention may b a tiny bit,,, about our own imagination,,,

              i you want to argue then make something that reach to that point,,,

              Hi,

              Where do you read, time travelling or moving galaxies or expanding space in the verses?

              and there is no cure of jealousy which jews and christians have from muslims because they was thinking last prophet will come from them,,,,

              ok

              so if u think i m traditional muslim it will not change any fact...my brother,,,i am what i m,,, alhamdulliah,,, try to handle the envy it leads towards unsuccess...

              ok

              when i was describing the tecnology of other prophets no body claim anyting

              With some imagination I could understand that you probably understood some verses like how you described them

              ,,, but as soon praised one (muhammad) name u listen u guys have something pain started somewhere probably in the head,,, God bless you all ,,,

              I am only 1 person.

              The technology you described to Muhammed, was above my imagination, that's why asked this.
              Time-travelling is only possible in hollywood.
              To "see" galaxies moving you need a little bit more then 1 night and you need some magic eyes.
              And I can not even imagine what kind of eyes one needs, to see space expanding.

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                imrankhawaja
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                http//free-minds.org/far-horizon

                guys whats this article is talking about,,,,

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                  imrankhawaja
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                  Hi,

                  Where do you read, time travelling or moving galaxies or expanding space in the verses?
                  ok

                  ok
                  With some imagination I could understand that you probably understood some verses like how you described them
                  I am only 1 person.

                  The technology you described to Muhammed, was above my imagination, that's why asked this.
                  Time-travelling is only possible in hollywood.
                  To "see" galaxies moving you need a little bit more then 1 night and you need some magic eyes.
                  And I can not even imagine what kind of eyes one needs, to see space expanding.

                  PICKTHALL
                  He directeth the ordinance from the heaven unto the earth; then it ascendeth unto Him in a Day, whereof the measure is a thousand years of that ye reckon. 32 5

                  SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
                  He arranges matter from the heaven to the earth; then it will ascend to Him in a Day, the extent of which is a thousand years of those which you count. 32 5

                  PICKTHALL
                  (Whereby) the angels and the Spirit ascend unto Him in a Day whereof the span is fifty thousand years. 704

                  SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
                  The angels and the Spirit will ascend to Him during a Day the extent of which is fifty thousand years.704..

                  PICKTHALL
                  And they will bid thee hasten on the Doom, and Allah faileth not His promise, but lo! a Day with Allah is as a thousand years of what ye reckon.

                  SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
                  And they urge you to hasten the punishment. But Allah will never fail in His promise. And indeed, a day with your Lord is like a thousand years of those which you count. 2247....

                  what you will say now? hollywood is so behind.

                  sorry for my writing style all of you guys... about these dots.

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                    imrankhawaja
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                    And for the love of anything dear, please stop using commas inappropriately. It looks like spam and is borderline unintelligible. Thank you.

                    i m sorry due to my writting style . and english is not my first language. its just typing mistake sometimes . sorry about it . i try to be careful next time.

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                      imrankhawaja
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                      @ guys. i may be wrong. but my brother remember me some hollywood fiction. i just want to see this fiction or fact in the light of quran. when i read these signs of holy quran. i think for a while whether its anlien beings or extraterrostrial.. have a look plz.

                      PICKTHALL
                      And of His portents is the creation of the heaven and the earth, and of whatever beasts He hath dispersed therein. And He is Able to gather them when He will.

                      SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
                      And of his signs is the creation of the heavens and earth and what He has dispersed throughout them of creatures. And He, for gathering them when He wills, is competent.

                      YUSUF ALI
                      And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the living creatures that He has scattered through them and He has power to gather them together when He wills. 4229

                      peace

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                        huruf
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                        There re things in the ld writings of sumerians, peoples of the Americas and other parts of the world, that make one wonder... Archeology has made its blunders also and continues to make them.There are many things we do not know and we fill the blanks with the "findings" of archeologists who finally are human and expected to respect established concepts many times grounded on unquestioned assumptions which seemed like unavoidable at a time but which may be completely baseless.

                        May be there should be a more daring archeology. Or may be there is but is not acknowledged by the estaablishment.

                        Wha to me seemsunquestionable from the Qur'an is that this is not the first Humanity.

                        Salaam

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                          Bender
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                          http//free-minds.org/far-horizon

                          guys whats this article is talking about,,,,

                          hi,

                          In the end of the article you can read this

                          IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER

                          ?This is the book, no doubt, in it guidance for the cautious.? (22)

                          Tomorrow our understanding of the Quran and the Universe will evolve, except if God wills otherwise. This article reflects my personal interpretation of the Quranic verses as of September 13th, 2001. Please be humble by following the example set by the angels in 232, verify all information within for yourself as commanded by God in 1736, and remember that simply ?none? is the cautious answer to God?s question in 456.

                          @ guys. i may be wrong. but my brother remember me some hollywood fiction. i just want to see this fiction or fact in the light of quran. when i read these signs of holy quran. i think for a while whether its anlien beings or extraterrostrial.. have a look plz.

                          PICKTHALL
                          And of His portents is the creation of the heaven and the earth, and of whatever beasts He hath dispersed therein. And He is Able to gather them when He will.
                          4229
                          peace

                          PICKTHALL
                          He directeth the ordinance from the heaven unto the earth; then it ascendeth unto Him in a Day, whereof the measure is a thousand years of that ye reckon. 32 5

                          PICKTHALL
                          (Whereby) the angels and the Spirit ascend unto Him in a Day whereof the span is fifty thousand years. 704

                          PICKTHALL
                          And they will bid thee hasten on the Doom, and Allah faileth not His promise, but lo! a Day with Allah is as a thousand years of what ye reckon.

                          what you will say now? hollywood is so behind.

                          sorry for my writing style all of you guys... about these dots

                          RED In earlier post of you, you said that Mohammed has observed some things.
                          The verses you quoted above are not about Mohammed observing something.
                          And the verses you quoted are per my understanding not about time-traveling or motion of galaxies or expansion of space but I could be wrong.

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                            imrankhawaja
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                            And the verses you quoted are per my understanding not about time-traveling or motion of galaxies or expansion of space but I could be wrong.

                            actually its all whats our understanding of observing things.everybody have a right to present their theories and understanding of learning this treasure in the shape of quran.

                            in the light of my knowledge i beleive these verses are talking about muhammad and the event that took place...

                            and about the exact event we are not cleared apart from these hints.thats also leads towards some modern theories.
                            as we know about the verses of time period infront of God is fifty thousand years sometimes.

                            rest of the things let see what happen in near future.everybody can be right and wrong but as soon we realise we are wrong we should accept it.in the end i would like to say Allah is the hearer and seer of things.

                            peace

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                              Bender
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                              everybody can be right and wrong but as soon we realise we are wrong we should accept it.
                              peace

                              Hi,

                              handshake

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                                imrankhawaja
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                                Hi,

                                handshake

                                handshake

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