hey guys if you are drafted to gight ww3 would you do it?
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Considering tensions between the U.S and Russia, China, and Iran , there would be no doubt that ww3 would come true. So just wondering if it would happened would you serve and of you asked me I am conflicted with this issue since it is not a war for the sake pf God so I dont think I can.
anyways I would love to add here that since I am guessing most of us here live in a non muslim country do we still have to serve in their military? Like what do you guys think of the rulings in such...
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As long as Trump is kept away from the office, we'll have 4 more years of "peace" with the usual political games and teases. Americans, please make that happen )
But, make no mistake, if God wanted to test all of us speaking here on a forum with WAR, then God shall bring it to our own neighborhood. You will either scream like a baby or collect yourself and do what you have to do.
We are currently living in peace and typing all sort of stuff about war in a forum with ease yet there are people out there living war. You might be the next! To be tested with your own life is a great test and (might be the final one as well).
I'm sorry what's the issue ? No war so let's talk about war ? eeeh naah.
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However even if war comes. How could a righteous man rise his hand to take a life that he has no authority over, because it was not him who created this life in the first place?
Isn't it better to die as sinless as possible than try to prolong this earthly days by sinning? And in this case a BIG sin as taking someones God given life away ?
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However even if war comes. How could a righteous man rise his hand to take a life that he has no authority over, because it was not him who created this life in the first place?
Isn't it better to die as sinless as possible than try to prolong this earthly days by sinning? And in this case a BIG sin as taking someones God given life away ?
Yeah absolutely. when you see someone forcing into your house with a machete, run to your kitchen, grab a knife and stab yourself.
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However even if war comes. How could a righteous man rise his hand to take a life that he has no authority over, because it was not him who created this life in the first place?
Isn't it better to die as sinless as possible than try to prolong this earthly days by sinning? And in this case a BIG sin as taking someones God given life away ?
Good reasoning.
However a problem is that you need to make sure to be spiritually ready before you leave the flesh. If you die in a body without being ready you will recycle into another.
One of the ancient commandments say "do not defeat", which means that you should not use the instinct to win. It does not directly tell not to kill but has been interpreted like that due to corruption of languages.
Obviously this does not justify killing because you should treat your neighbor like yourself and you should also care for your enemy. When understanding the commandment to be "do not defeat" it is easier to add it up. When the only remaining logical thing to do, when diplomacy fails, is to kill someone then so be it and they left no other choice in their delusion.
And eye for an eye... no more.
If I was sure I was ready, perhaps I would allow myself to be killed without defense if no other life depended on me.
Actually it is better to rush oneself to be prepared and then if the situation arises they can kill you. Homo sapiens is turned on by violence so perhaps it is better to abstain, so you do not trigger an instinct unnecessarily. Anything that causes a sensation of a game, contest, reward stimulus will thrill the primitive little Homo sapiens.
Actually, in many ways it is a difficult world in which we live.
Be well
Amenuel -
Peace Man Of Faith.
It is nice to know we will not be joining opposite sides. In that case there is no danger for both of us.
You and me may survive WW 3, WW 4, WW5... WW 20,,,Even Armagaddon!!!
What a nice thought.
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Brother hansolo.
May be we will be "recycling from one body to another"?!!!!!
OK ,so it is wishful thinking.
GOD bless you.
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another question , even if we will get a life again..
will we started from fresh thinking or we start from where we left?
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Yes Borther Good Logic group
Hopefully or something even better sunGod Bless
Take care of yourself
Just bare in mind that you will not attain SPIRITUAL GROWTH by reading on some forum, or watch some youtube videos...You have to face your devils. It's not acquired (unless you are chosen?) it's reached.
Persistence, Patience, Sadness, Struggle, Loneliness, Sins, Repentance, More sins. That's what it's going to feel like.And read the Quran, please..
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Cerberus
I know I know...
Some people are higher in rank in Gods eyes. They are put in more advantageous situations.
However even if YOUR way had all of these things you named. Doesn't really mean that one must go trough the same.
And if you are worrying about me. My way is too not without any bumps here and there. We know this world is not paradise. God knows what Ive been trough and what Im going through this exact moment.
However in this forum I feel home and with same minded people, just like you Brother. Hopefully we will help each other out on our journeys.
Love you Brother
Hope we will get trough all of this together group
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another question , even if we will get a life again..
will we started from fresh thinking or we start from where we left?
If you are given a new life yet WITHOUT any memory of your past experience. (In similar fashion as a laptop given a new and fresh hard drive and RAM) AND you were born into different context and tradition.. let's say today's Jewish or Hindus family, will you then belief in the same thing as you are now?
It can be extended with... and you were born into a family of Marduk worshipper 3000 years ago in the city of Mesopotamia.. will you then belief in the same thing as you are now?
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Well the statistics DO show that people tend to not change the religion they were born into, right ?
So mathematically speaking, NO!.But isn't true believer is the one who is against all organized religions. You know why.
GOD is everywhere and He is closer to us than our Jugular vein.Peace
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And Man of Faith
How can one be 100% certain that he is ready for death ?
You will feel the readiness.
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If you are given a new life yet WITHOUT any memory of your past experience. (In similar fashion as a laptop given a new and fresh hard drive and RAM) AND you were born into different context and tradition.. let's say today's Jewish or Hindus family, will you then belief in the same thing as you are now?
It can be extended with... and you were born into a family of Marduk worshipper 3000 years ago in the city of Mesopotamia.. will you then belief in the same thing as you are now?
infact, if i ll have the same brain what i have now, then i will think about it, whatever tradition i born in i will verify it , if my verification and my mind contradict with something i will revise my thinking and i will approach God with truth...
even in my current life, by the grace of God i changed my self from something to something .. which is quite risky for me...
look i born in system which i dnt really beleive in now...its mean even i get birth 3000 years ago with same mind , in whatever tradition i m confident on myself i eventually find a solution of the puzzle specially how abraham find it by reason logic and verifications... its not hard to find your creator specially when you are sincear in your findings, and God is also there to show light to the people who want it ...
coming back to the topic..
we are discussing about second/third/fourth life not about faith..example a hitler get rebirth and spend an average life... and in the second birth he pass his test...
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Doesn't it say somewhere in the Quran
That some people will be animals or deaf and blind in the hereafter ? Correct me If Im wrong. So if the hereafter implies the next human life, than yeah we see people born as blind and deaf. Than it would answer why are these people in this conditions. It will also explain when God says that everything that is good is from Him and everything that is Bad is fro ourselves.
And the day of Judgment is the day when there will be no more tries left. So if we are still here on Earth talking to each other, this means that we still did not graduate to come to God, so to speak.
Our time is short Guys haha
And of course
God knows the best!
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its mean even i get birth 3000 years ago with same mind , in whatever tradition i m confident on myself i eventually find a solution of the puzzle specially how abraham find it by reason logic and verifications... its not hard to find your creator specially when you are sincear in your findings, and God is also there to show light to the people who want it ...
Abe has an advantage that other people during his time and place didn't have..
His own dad was an idol maker...
He sees how the idol was made by his own dad and so does any mythology that associated with it, with his own senses (eyes, ears)That's how human brain works, it responds to external impulse / information and deduce conclusion based on it..
No external impulse / information, no deduction..
Misleading impulse / information, misleading deduction..Is it fair to 'judge' people who didn't received the same information or witnessed the same events as Abe using the same standard as his?
example a hitler get rebirth and spend an average life... and in the second birth he pass his test...
where is the judgement /punishment of millions of lives he took?Should there be any 'punishment'?
Given due to his action he has also caused the freedom of people living in many european colonies, the death of colonialism era..
Should he then be 'rewarded' instead?The pride of the Pharaoh, his enslavement of the hebrew has caused the Torah to be written...
If Pharaoh was a nice, humble and polite person which treated everyone nicely.. there will be no exodus, no deed of Moses, no Ten Commandments, no 'parting of the red sea', no David, no Solomon, no Jesus, no Gospel, no Quran, no Jihad, no Crusades etc.. etc..And there are million of other examples on "causal chain of events"..
All the world?s a stage,
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances,
-- W ShakespareIf another "big war" dubbed "WWIII" are supposed to happened.. then it will happened... as it was supposed to happened.. it will be the cause of many things as aftermath....
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The kind of condition and situation you are reborn in is in consequence of your past deeds. What goes around comes around. That is the kind of "punishment" a person receives and they cause it themselves.
Perhaps the soul of Mr. Hitler is deemed so shattered it is deleted instead. Easiest solution to failures. Mr. Hitler surely brought forth the worst in people and shows how easily fooled and rallied they are.
Be well
Amenuel