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Flood in time of Nooh a.s.

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    Noon_waalqalami
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    Maybe you'll understand this if you think about the following

    there's a difference between (in the Earth) and (on the Earth). If we read last 3 ayats from surah Nooh we can maybe understand what is "El-'Erd", with His Help. Please find occurancies of these and think about them, I hope it'll be clear to you what is "El-'Erd" in Nooh's a.s. story.

    Peace, the flood was local and the earth is round with 2,200+ satellites in orbit most (1,300+) are Russian.

    2265 did not see that the god subjected for you what in the land and the ship flow in the sea by directive his and keeps the firmament lest/that it falls on the land except by permission his surely the god with the humankind most kind merciful

    2914 and indeed have sent we Noah of to folk his so stayed among them thousand sanatin except fifty Aama so seized them the flood and they were unjustly 2915 so we saved him and owners? the ship and made we it sign to the creations

    7126 and said Noah lord not leave on the land from the skeptics inhabitant 7127 surely you if thou leave them mislead they of devotees your and not beget they of except wicked of rejector of 7128 lord forgive to me and to parents dual mine and to whoever entered house mine believer of and to the believers and the believers (f/p) and not increase the wrongdoers except destruction of

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      Aladin_from_Azra_tribe
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      What you wanna present as "the land" is "el-berr" in Qur'an, and you can find its occurancies with "the sea" as "el-berru we-l-bahru" or similar, as in 596. But, if you tried to understand and accept what you get from the knowledge about senet and 'aam, you could maybe understand what/who was qawmihi (Nooh's a.s. qawm).
      You also translated/understood the word es-sema' as "the Firmament", so I have to ask you what is Firmament? What is its composition? How can it fall ON Earth? Is it or its parts falling ON Earth, because Allah swt said 'illa bi-'iznih? Is it around the globe, since you believe that you're on some globe? If es-sema' falls ON Earth how it'll be done, will it just be shrinked to Earth's globe? What will happen with your satellites? Have you ever saw any? Where from you're getting informations about the Earth, what is in it and on it and beyond it?

      Sorry for my offensive language, but since you're not sure that you understand every word from ayats and ayats, you should re-think again and again and again. This should be the rule for me also and for everybody else. It's not very hard to differe 'ala and fi, no matter if it is about the Earth or anything else. What we shouldn't do is to translate them and think about the words in our languages. Our languages are not 'arabiyyun and they're not mubin, they are making a lot of confusions.

      Allah's bless and selam.

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        Cerberus
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        I want you to think about implications of this event... and ask yourselves following questions

        1. what happened with atmosphere
        2. if the mass of the Earth changed does it mean that the Sun's gravity was much bigger, since it's related with the mass of objects interacting
        3. how come the Sun didn't pull the Earth towards it
        4. was gravitation of the Earth changed and what could be effects
        5. where that water left after the flood
        6. is God sending more water from the Skies after the flood
        7. we were told by NASA and Co. that the see level is increasing some 0.1 inches each year and it's cause global warming... was global warming when the see level was increased some 9000m

        and so on, you can find your own questions... I hope you'll understand that something's wrong with this event, it sounds as unreal, or you accepted falsehood from NASA and Co.

        I hope this warning will be helpful.

        Aah, let's be honest here. How are these question going to make me a better person ? If you had issue answering them, chances are I will also have issues answering them and everyone else...

        Why do we choose to go over the details that won't make absolutely NO IMPACT on our life ? Or do we "Muslims" like to argue over the quran and speak of the unseen as if we were able to ? Or is arguing over the Quran a good pastime ? (Hansolo, if you read this, take notes)

        I'm sorry if I'm saying this in your thread. Such discussions got me overwhelmed so bad. Specially that life, outside of this discussion, gives no damn about this discussion or its outcome.

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          Aladin_from_Azra_tribe
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          What can make us better persons? Is this (are these) one(s) of these things?
          Is this talking about unseen?
          Will details about these have impact on our life?

          We can be better only if we're guided (more), but what is guidance? It's sebilu-llahi or siratu-llahi (Allah's Path/Path to Allah swt) . How to be on it, how to walk it? We have to recognize it and to accept it to be able to. To recognize it we have to find it and it can be found by its signs, which are His ayats. These ayats are in Qur'an, and in the Heavens and in the Earth, and between them, and in ourselves, and in everything He created. So, if we are coming near His ayats and we're thinking about them, we can be led to Him on His Path by the shadows of all He created. If we're thinking about His ayats and with His Help we get the knowledge about it, we'll see it. It depends on the knowledge we got about it how clear we'll see it. After getting the knowledge we have to use it, or to walk His Path. Only this will make us better persons.
          So, you asked if these questions/answer can make us better persons. Yes, it can, if we think about them and if we get the knowledge about His Path with it and if we accept it (be believers in it).

          If you think that this is talking about unseen then let's delete all the history, for example, or let's say that we can't talk about the air... Unseen (ghayb) is what we do not have the knowledge about, but these ayats are not ghayb.

          Details about this will have great impact on our lives with His Help, if He wishes. But, seeing the sea splits had no impact on some of the people. But, rising dead people had no impact on some of the people. Seeing Allah's sign and thinking about it and accepting it with His 'izn had an impact on pharaoh's magicians. Ayats are not ayats for all of the people.

          My goal was to tell you that, maybe, if you want, you could think about "facts" you accepted as truth. Those which are falsehood, you accepted from fasiqoon and for which you have no proof, but the stories from liars. Anyways, I wrote this just to warn you, and we all are chosing what we'll follow and where's the truth for us.

          Allah's bless and selam.

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            Noon_waalqalami
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            You also translated/understood the word es-sema' as "the Firmament", so I have to ask you what is Firmament? ...
            What will happen with your satellites? Have you ever saw any? Where from you're getting informations about the Earth, what is in it and on it and beyond it?

            fir?ma?ment
            synonyms the sky, heaven; the heavens, the skies;

            yes saw satellites and yes we use this technology everyday including global navigation satellite system to provide location/time for weather and driving directions and yes visited NASA and yes they are my customer; yes here is latest...

            European Mars Lander Separates From Mothership, Takes Aim at Red Planet
            October 16, 2016
            http//www.space.com/34399-european-mars-lander-separates-exomars-mothership.html

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              Aladin_from_Azra_tribe
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              And yes, you're a liar, just as they are, or you're worse then them, because you're taking Allah's Qawl and you're perverting His Words to defend your customers.

              So, which is exactly word for "the land" El-'Erd or El-Berr? And what Senet and Aam mean? Your fake proof is based on these, so teach us, please, if you're of truthful ones.

              And, please, can you tell us if any of your costumers died "outside the Earth"? What will happen if they "die not on the Earth"?
              I hope you saw or at least you know antennas for GPS exist and you know that a system of communication same as GPS existed before GPS.
              You can believe whatever you like and you can work with whomever you like, but you should explain what you were asked.
              I haven't asked for synonyms of the word Firmament and you're twisting the truth again. I asked What is Firmament? What is its composition? How can it fall "on" Earth? And a few more questions you haven't answered, but you're using that word as Allah's Word, which is a lie, big one, taken from the Jews and others who enjoy in listening lies, as Allah swt informed us.

              Allah's bless and selam.

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                Noon_waalqalami
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                And yes, you're a liar, just as they are, or you're worse then them...

                And yes as my differential equations professor once said
                "if you never ask stupid questions you'll never get over being stupid!"

                And yes the whole world is lying and conspiring against you while you stay ignorant in your wireless cave.

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                  all pilots, the sattellite controllers, space agencies.. througout the world got some medicines due to which they can easily brain wash everybody so they do exactly what they told to... its a big game going on... from last 70 years.. a magic from nasa and companies same like how samree did it in the era of moses...

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                    all pilots, the sattellite controllers, space agencies.. througout the world got some medicines due to which they can easily brain wash everybody so they do exactly what they told to... its a big game going on... from last 70 years.. a magic from nasa and companies same like how samree did it in the era of moses...

                    Can you develop please ? This is the typical talk you can find in those pseudo-scientifical conspiracy theory blogs.

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                      Can you develop please ? This is the typical talk you can find in those pseudo-scientifical conspiracy theory blogs.

                      brother develop what? cant you see quran is saying earth is flat hadith is saying earth is flat, christian bible is also saying same thing...

                      before that guy galileo introduces it was a theory but after moon landing and space missions the scientist and all other people prove it round infront of you.. becoz nasa is illuminati hence its proved earth is flat and its big lie

                      so all the things that are orbiting the earth are lies becoz its impossible for anything to orbit earth... tempt

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                        hansolo
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                        One Picture is worth more than Ten thousand words

                        https//s21.postimg.org/hh86qgw2v/IMG_1166.jpg

                        But I guess The Avarage human being would never see such pictures in a history class or TV

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                          imrankhawaja
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                          there is not any picture there brother hansolo

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                            imrankhawaja
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                            aww i just checked it... the person who wear white is actually a cricket player.. becoz the nasa team wanted to play cricket on moon to check what is the gravity of shot hahaha .. but after that they cancelled the programme due to the risk

                            they thought if ball will never come back it will be a trouble for appollo spacecrafts if ball hit the machinery their mission may delay and the vehicle can get fire ..

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                              hansolo
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                              Interesting...

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                                hansolo
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                                Let me introduce the man on the picture below, Whernee Von Braun

                                http//www.space.com/images/i/000/026/870/i02/vonbraun-rockets.jpg?1362697494?interpolation=lanczos-none&downsize=640*

                                Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun was a German, later American, aerospace engineer and space architect credited with inventing the V-2 rocket for Nazi Germany and the Saturn V for the United States. He was one of the leading fathers of rocket science.

                                And now after our short biography. Please have a look at his tombstone below

                                https//pbs.twimg.com/media/ChDYlLyWkAEAoUg.jpg

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                                  imrankhawaja
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                                  hahahahaha interesting , really show us some more pictures its quite interesting

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                                    imrankhawaja
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                                    thats why difficult things called rocket science hmm

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                                      hansolo
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                                      The whole world is trying to hide the Truth. The existence of A Creator

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                                        hansolo
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                                        The Holy Quran in Sura Al Mulk ( Chapter 67 Verse#3) says

                                        "Who has created the seven heavens one above another, you can see no fault in the creations of the Most Beneficent. Then look again ?Can you see any cracks ??

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                                          hansolo
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                                          This is definition of the word Crack

                                          To break something so that it does not separate, but very thin lines appear on its surface, or to become broken in this way

                                          A stone hit the window and cracked the glass.
                                          I cracked my tooth as I fell.
                                          The walls cracked and the roof collapsed in the earthquake.

                                          For Oder for something to crack it needs to be solid, period.

                                          Now does it fit with What we've been told? Hmm...

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