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Flood in time of Nooh a.s.

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    Cerberus
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    I want you to think about implications of this event... and ask yourselves following questions

    1. what happened with atmosphere
    2. if the mass of the Earth changed does it mean that the Sun's gravity was much bigger, since it's related with the mass of objects interacting
    3. how come the Sun didn't pull the Earth towards it
    4. was gravitation of the Earth changed and what could be effects
    5. where that water left after the flood
    6. is God sending more water from the Skies after the flood
    7. we were told by NASA and Co. that the see level is increasing some 0.1 inches each year and it's cause global warming... was global warming when the see level was increased some 9000m

    and so on, you can find your own questions... I hope you'll understand that something's wrong with this event, it sounds as unreal, or you accepted falsehood from NASA and Co.

    I hope this warning will be helpful.

    Aah, let's be honest here. How are these question going to make me a better person ? If you had issue answering them, chances are I will also have issues answering them and everyone else...

    Why do we choose to go over the details that won't make absolutely NO IMPACT on our life ? Or do we "Muslims" like to argue over the quran and speak of the unseen as if we were able to ? Or is arguing over the Quran a good pastime ? (Hansolo, if you read this, take notes)

    I'm sorry if I'm saying this in your thread. Such discussions got me overwhelmed so bad. Specially that life, outside of this discussion, gives no damn about this discussion or its outcome.

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      Aladin_from_Azra_tribe
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      What can make us better persons? Is this (are these) one(s) of these things?
      Is this talking about unseen?
      Will details about these have impact on our life?

      We can be better only if we're guided (more), but what is guidance? It's sebilu-llahi or siratu-llahi (Allah's Path/Path to Allah swt) . How to be on it, how to walk it? We have to recognize it and to accept it to be able to. To recognize it we have to find it and it can be found by its signs, which are His ayats. These ayats are in Qur'an, and in the Heavens and in the Earth, and between them, and in ourselves, and in everything He created. So, if we are coming near His ayats and we're thinking about them, we can be led to Him on His Path by the shadows of all He created. If we're thinking about His ayats and with His Help we get the knowledge about it, we'll see it. It depends on the knowledge we got about it how clear we'll see it. After getting the knowledge we have to use it, or to walk His Path. Only this will make us better persons.
      So, you asked if these questions/answer can make us better persons. Yes, it can, if we think about them and if we get the knowledge about His Path with it and if we accept it (be believers in it).

      If you think that this is talking about unseen then let's delete all the history, for example, or let's say that we can't talk about the air... Unseen (ghayb) is what we do not have the knowledge about, but these ayats are not ghayb.

      Details about this will have great impact on our lives with His Help, if He wishes. But, seeing the sea splits had no impact on some of the people. But, rising dead people had no impact on some of the people. Seeing Allah's sign and thinking about it and accepting it with His 'izn had an impact on pharaoh's magicians. Ayats are not ayats for all of the people.

      My goal was to tell you that, maybe, if you want, you could think about "facts" you accepted as truth. Those which are falsehood, you accepted from fasiqoon and for which you have no proof, but the stories from liars. Anyways, I wrote this just to warn you, and we all are chosing what we'll follow and where's the truth for us.

      Allah's bless and selam.

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        Noon_waalqalami
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        You also translated/understood the word es-sema' as "the Firmament", so I have to ask you what is Firmament? ...
        What will happen with your satellites? Have you ever saw any? Where from you're getting informations about the Earth, what is in it and on it and beyond it?

        fir?ma?ment
        synonyms the sky, heaven; the heavens, the skies;

        yes saw satellites and yes we use this technology everyday including global navigation satellite system to provide location/time for weather and driving directions and yes visited NASA and yes they are my customer; yes here is latest...

        European Mars Lander Separates From Mothership, Takes Aim at Red Planet
        October 16, 2016
        http//www.space.com/34399-european-mars-lander-separates-exomars-mothership.html

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          Aladin_from_Azra_tribe
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          And yes, you're a liar, just as they are, or you're worse then them, because you're taking Allah's Qawl and you're perverting His Words to defend your customers.

          So, which is exactly word for "the land" El-'Erd or El-Berr? And what Senet and Aam mean? Your fake proof is based on these, so teach us, please, if you're of truthful ones.

          And, please, can you tell us if any of your costumers died "outside the Earth"? What will happen if they "die not on the Earth"?
          I hope you saw or at least you know antennas for GPS exist and you know that a system of communication same as GPS existed before GPS.
          You can believe whatever you like and you can work with whomever you like, but you should explain what you were asked.
          I haven't asked for synonyms of the word Firmament and you're twisting the truth again. I asked What is Firmament? What is its composition? How can it fall "on" Earth? And a few more questions you haven't answered, but you're using that word as Allah's Word, which is a lie, big one, taken from the Jews and others who enjoy in listening lies, as Allah swt informed us.

          Allah's bless and selam.

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            Noon_waalqalami
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            And yes, you're a liar, just as they are, or you're worse then them...

            And yes as my differential equations professor once said
            "if you never ask stupid questions you'll never get over being stupid!"

            And yes the whole world is lying and conspiring against you while you stay ignorant in your wireless cave.

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              all pilots, the sattellite controllers, space agencies.. througout the world got some medicines due to which they can easily brain wash everybody so they do exactly what they told to... its a big game going on... from last 70 years.. a magic from nasa and companies same like how samree did it in the era of moses...

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                Cerberus
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                all pilots, the sattellite controllers, space agencies.. througout the world got some medicines due to which they can easily brain wash everybody so they do exactly what they told to... its a big game going on... from last 70 years.. a magic from nasa and companies same like how samree did it in the era of moses...

                Can you develop please ? This is the typical talk you can find in those pseudo-scientifical conspiracy theory blogs.

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                  Can you develop please ? This is the typical talk you can find in those pseudo-scientifical conspiracy theory blogs.

                  brother develop what? cant you see quran is saying earth is flat hadith is saying earth is flat, christian bible is also saying same thing...

                  before that guy galileo introduces it was a theory but after moon landing and space missions the scientist and all other people prove it round infront of you.. becoz nasa is illuminati hence its proved earth is flat and its big lie

                  so all the things that are orbiting the earth are lies becoz its impossible for anything to orbit earth... tempt

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                    hansolo
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                    One Picture is worth more than Ten thousand words

                    https//s21.postimg.org/hh86qgw2v/IMG_1166.jpg

                    But I guess The Avarage human being would never see such pictures in a history class or TV

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                      imrankhawaja
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                      there is not any picture there brother hansolo

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                        aww i just checked it... the person who wear white is actually a cricket player.. becoz the nasa team wanted to play cricket on moon to check what is the gravity of shot hahaha .. but after that they cancelled the programme due to the risk

                        they thought if ball will never come back it will be a trouble for appollo spacecrafts if ball hit the machinery their mission may delay and the vehicle can get fire ..

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                          hansolo
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                          Interesting...

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                            hansolo
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                            Let me introduce the man on the picture below, Whernee Von Braun

                            http//www.space.com/images/i/000/026/870/i02/vonbraun-rockets.jpg?1362697494?interpolation=lanczos-none&downsize=640*

                            Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun was a German, later American, aerospace engineer and space architect credited with inventing the V-2 rocket for Nazi Germany and the Saturn V for the United States. He was one of the leading fathers of rocket science.

                            And now after our short biography. Please have a look at his tombstone below

                            https//pbs.twimg.com/media/ChDYlLyWkAEAoUg.jpg

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                              imrankhawaja
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                              hahahahaha interesting , really show us some more pictures its quite interesting

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                                thats why difficult things called rocket science hmm

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                                  hansolo
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                                  The whole world is trying to hide the Truth. The existence of A Creator

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                                    hansolo
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                                    The Holy Quran in Sura Al Mulk ( Chapter 67 Verse#3) says

                                    "Who has created the seven heavens one above another, you can see no fault in the creations of the Most Beneficent. Then look again ?Can you see any cracks ??

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                                      hansolo
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                                      This is definition of the word Crack

                                      To break something so that it does not separate, but very thin lines appear on its surface, or to become broken in this way

                                      A stone hit the window and cracked the glass.
                                      I cracked my tooth as I fell.
                                      The walls cracked and the roof collapsed in the earthquake.

                                      For Oder for something to crack it needs to be solid, period.

                                      Now does it fit with What we've been told? Hmm...

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                                        Aladin_from_Azra_tribe
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                                        And yes as my differential equations professor once said
                                        "if you never ask stupid questions you'll never get over being stupid!"

                                        Is he referring to some ayat, do you?
                                        Avoiding to answer questions won't make them stupid. But, I don't need your answers, I asked because of you, but if you don't care I won't care either. I'm just a warner.
                                        I can't make a tunnel into to Earth, I can't go upto stairs into to Sky to find some ayat besides Allah's to prove you obvious (haqq) from Him.
                                        If you're rejecting to think, sorry.

                                        Allah's bless and selam.

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                                          Cerberus
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                                          brother develop what? cant you see quran is saying earth is flat hadith is saying earth is flat, christian bible is also saying same thing...

                                          before that guy galileo introduces it was a theory but after moon landing and space missions the scientist and all other people prove it round infront of you.. becoz nasa is illuminati hence its proved earth is flat and its big lie

                                          so all the things that are orbiting the earth are lies becoz its impossible for anything to orbit earth... tempt

                                          cant you see quran is saying
                                          No I can't see it. That is your interpretation of it. As I have mine. Your interpretation is based on your pseudo-scientifical ideas. How do you expect someone to read the Quranic verses related to earth the right way if his ideas about it are all pseudo-scientifical ? (this is not a question) The final interpretation of those specific verses will be pseudo-scientifical, obviously.

                                          becoz nasa is illuminati
                                          Oh and what is illuminati ? Such statement isn't from the Quran (obviously), this is the pseudo-scientifical ideas that reflect on your judgement and interpretations.
                                          Also, you obviously ignore that Nasa is not the only agency that has a space program...Europe, China, Russia....

                                          becoz its impossible for anything to orbit earth

                                          Assuming that you won't believe what you don't see, It can still be demonstrated using physics and mathematics. Show me the anti-physics and anti-mathematics theories that you used to get to that conclusion.

                                          hahahahaha interesting , really show us some more pictures its quite interesting

                                          Enjoying the picture huh?.. Yeah show him some more pictures that feed his views. Because I'm sure the pictures are very truthful and one can easily extract so many factual information from them....

                                          thats why difficult things called rocket science hmm

                                          Difficult things ? You mean things you completely ignore and you decided to ignore and rather chose to read on some conspiracy theory blog....Yeah they might seem difficult to YOU.

                                          Here you go, study in this website, start from the basics

                                          http//speed-light.info/miracles_of_quran/earth.htm

                                          Do not attempt to skip to intermediate/advanced/physics/cosmology sections. They study the Quran in a very scientific way using actual science (things you might consider "difficult&quot, in topics such as "speed of light", dark matter, wormholes, Relativity of time, pulsars and black holes etc.

                                          (Just to give you a different perspective, I do not expect to shift your view or guide you to the straight path...)

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