Common misconceptions about Islam - help needed
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This does no say ha o the male twice as to he female. Wha i says is tha the par to he one male is like he part of he wo femles. Which is nno at ll he same. Each female hs a par which is nno hafl the par of the male but similar to he par of the oher emale and the par of the male. There is not part undivided or commonn for the two females. Each females inheris her part and if the are two, hen each of te pars of the females are he ame as the part of the male.
o ay ht he male gets double, Arabic hsmeans to state it, and o sate tha the females get he half also here are means to sateit.
Bu what is stated in arabic is ta el unthiyain get each her pat annd that the par of the male is equeal to each of those pars.
o rea te par of the feale as one undivided is invention and makes o sense either gramatically or legally. And it is so much so hat that is what was applied by he muslims up o he Abbasides when i ws politically changed.
Salaam
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Peace, inconclusive early Qur'ans missing bismillah ch 9 pickup again ch 10...
http//www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer.aspx?ref=or_2165_f007v#
brother that link shows there is bismillah in the start of chapter... is that chappter 8 or 9
peace
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This does no say ha o the male twice as to he female. Wha i says is tha the par to he one male is like he part of he wo femles.
Peace huruf, too many typos and what it says mathematically ...
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instructs you the god in offspring yours to the male (i.e. gender) similitude apportion the two (f)Applicable only when there are exactly two females...
1/2 two daughters (1/4 each) + 1/2 one son
1/2 two daughters (1/4 each) + 1/2 two sons (1/4 each)
1/2 two daughters (1/4 each) + 1/2 three sons (1/6 each)4176
and if be they of siblings rijlan/menfolk of wanisan/and womenfolk (3+) so to the male (i.e. gender) similitude apportion the two (f)Applicable only when there are exactly three+ females...
3/5 three sisters (1/5 each) + 2/5 one brother
3/5 three sisters (1/5 each) + 2/5 two brothers (1/5 each)
3/5 three sisters (1/5 each) + 2/5 three brothers (2/15 each)2/3 four sisters (1/6 each) + 1/3 one brother
2/3 four sisters (1/6 each) + 1/3 two brothers (1/6 each)
2/3 four sisters (1/6 each) + 1/3 three brothers (1/9 each)brother that link shows there is bismillah in the start of chapter... is that chappter 8 or 9
Peace imran, link is start of manuscript 740 to ch 8 need to scroll forward to ch 9 already posted.
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peace Nun,
I can change the wording to the following (see changes in bold)
This is only partially true. Shares of inheritance should be stated in a will, and can be done in any way a person chooses however in cases where there is no will or a will leaves leftover wealth/property/etc The Quran has a default system that can be used for such cases . In this default system, a male can receive more than a female sometimes because they have a wider duty of care for maintenance of the family/household .
This would be satisfactory?
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peace Nun,
I can change the wording to the following (see changes in bold)
This would be satisfactory?
Peace Wakas, a bit better although reason for more inheritance cannot be tied to responsibility in different verse.
Likewise females often inherit equally e.g. 1/2 daughter and 1/2 son or even inherit/favored more if 2+ sons, etc.
Perhaps point them to the link on inheritance thread and/or distribution chart example...
http//oi64.tinypic.com/2rc38mg.jpg
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Peace Nun,
Does that chart cover all permutations?
I can further change wording to
This is only partially true. Shares of inheritance should be stated in a will, and can be done in any way a person chooses however in cases where there is no will or a will leaves leftover wealth/property/etc The Quran has a default system that can be used for such cases . In this default system, a male can receive more than a female sometimes, possibly because they have a wider duty of care for maintenance of the family/household .
It would be nice to have a website that allowed people to input an example and it outputs the inheritance shares. Do you think this could be done?
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Peace Nun,
Does that chart cover all permutations?
I can further change wording to
It would be nice to have a website that allowed people to input an example and it outputs the inheritance shares. Do you think this could be done?
Peace Wakas, there are 120 x (2^9) = 61,440 combinations only 3 children and 3 siblings.
120 x 2 (wife/husband) x 2 (two daughters) x 2 (three daughters) x 2 (two sons) x 2 (three sons) x 2 (two sisters) x 2 (three sisters) x 2 (two brothers) x 2 (three brothers)
https//www.mathsisfun.com/combinatorics/combinations-permutations-calculator.html
Combinations without repetition (n=7, r=7)
Using Items mother, father, wife, son, daughter, sister, brother
List has 1 entries.
mother, father, wife, son, daughter, sister, brotherCombinations without repetition (n=7, r=6)
Using Items mother, father, wife, son, daughter, sister, brother
List has 7 entries.
mother, father, wife, son, daughter, sister
...Combinations without repetition (n=7, r=5)
Using Items mother, father, wife, son, daughter, sister, brother
List has 21 entries.
mother, father, wife, son, daughter
...Combinations without repetition (n=7, r=4)
Using Items mother, father, wife, son, daughter, sister, brother
List has 35 entries.
mother, father, wife, son
...Combinations without repetition (n=7, r=3)
Using Items mother, father, wife, son, daughter, sister, brother
List has 35 entries.
mother, father, wife
...Combinations without repetition (n=7, r=2)
Using Items mother, father, wife, son, daughter, sister, brother
List has 21 entries.
mother, father
mother, wife
mother, son
mother, daughter
mother, sister
mother, brother
father, wife
father, son
father, daughter
father, sister
father, brother
wife, son
wife, daughter
wife, sister
wife, brother
son, daughter
son, sister
son, brother
daughter, sister
daughter, brother
sister, brotherYes calculator is doable although better to teach it to anyone regardless of combination so they can explain it or as my old calculus teacher once said to a student during a test -- it's open book, bring a friend, we'll even give you the answer, and what's most important that one can figure it out for themselves.
http//oi67.tinypic.com/ad0zfs.jpg
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I really like this idea.
its very easy to do as a computer program, God willing, if someone were to draw up a flow chart of the different circumstances etc, i would probably, God willing, be able to program it in some spear time. though i am rarely on my computer.
if i recall correctly the laws on inheritance are 'after paying off all debts and fulfilling all wills' so there is an easy way.. write a will.
i could be misunderstood though, i have not looked into it in detail.
peace
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Please make sure that you always put a disclaimer in with this type of work and make it absolutely clear you are promoting a reformist/Quranist interpretation of Islam, otherwise you unwittingly become an apologist for mainstream Islam.
After reading your works, people (especially non-muslims) think there is nothing wrong with Islam and that all criticism of Islam is islamophobia.
Make it clear that you are indeed a critic of mainstream Islam and that you have been declared kafir by pretty much every prominent Islamic scholar because you reject hadith.
In fact, the title "Misconceptions about Islam" is obscurantism. These are not misconception, this is reality ... it is how 99% practice Islam.
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peace burhan, all,
I somewhat agree with your take on it, so have incorporated the following statement on the homepage
"Unfortunately, there is often a difference between what Muslims believe/practice and what The Quran actually says."
Probably not as explicit as you'd like, but enough to make people aware there is a difference.
In any case, two more misconceptions have been added, now making the total 50.
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Make it clear that you are indeed a critic of mainstream Islam and that you have been declared kafir by pretty much every prominent Islamic scholar because you reject hadith.
the one who reject hadith = kafir according to them...
thats why for s sunni muslim , shia is kaffir and jahanmi
and for shia muslim , sunni is on wrong track...both mainstream schoolings of islam rejected eachother hadith and on that authroity they declared both of them kaffir... bravo
and intrestingly with in the schooling of both of them there are sub groups rejectinng eachother hadith, self claimed fatwas and considered as kaffir by other group... like
wahabi vs sunni
deobandi vs wahabi
deobanid vs sunni
hanfi vs shafi
malki vs humabli i can go with further with that list... anyways...i did not see any disclaimer/headings on their work and books...
first of all when i ask the first question from all of them , they parrotly repeat the same thing...
becoz you are not following the sunna , so you are kaffir...
what is sunna= they dnt know
what is kaffir = the one who reject sunna... hmmwakas add another misconception about islam..
declaring kaffir somebody with self proclaimed fatwas... wiwthout knowing the defination of kaffir per God laws -
peace all,
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So the website doesn't contain all of articles?
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The website contains all the articles in the book.
Ah okay thank you.
