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Common misconceptions about Islam - help needed

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    Noon_waalqalami
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    peace Nun,

    I can change the wording to the following (see changes in bold)

    This would be satisfactory?

    Peace Wakas, a bit better although reason for more inheritance cannot be tied to responsibility in different verse.

    Likewise females often inherit equally e.g. 1/2 daughter and 1/2 son or even inherit/favored more if 2+ sons, etc.

    Perhaps point them to the link on inheritance thread and/or distribution chart example...

    http//oi64.tinypic.com/2rc38mg.jpg

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      Wakas
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      Peace Nun,

      Does that chart cover all permutations?

      I can further change wording to

      This is only partially true. Shares of inheritance should be stated in a will, and can be done in any way a person chooses however in cases where there is no will or a will leaves leftover wealth/property/etc The Quran has a default system that can be used for such cases . In this default system, a male can receive more than a female sometimes, possibly because they have a wider duty of care for maintenance of the family/household .

      It would be nice to have a website that allowed people to input an example and it outputs the inheritance shares. Do you think this could be done?

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        Comrox
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        It would be nice to have a website that allowed people to input an example and it outputs the inheritance shares. Do you think this could be done?

        I really like this idea.

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          Noon_waalqalami
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          Peace Nun,

          Does that chart cover all permutations?

          I can further change wording to

          It would be nice to have a website that allowed people to input an example and it outputs the inheritance shares. Do you think this could be done?

          Peace Wakas, there are 120 x (2^9) = 61,440 combinations only 3 children and 3 siblings.

          120 x 2 (wife/husband) x 2 (two daughters) x 2 (three daughters) x 2 (two sons) x 2 (three sons) x 2 (two sisters) x 2 (three sisters) x 2 (two brothers) x 2 (three brothers)

          https//www.mathsisfun.com/combinatorics/combinations-permutations-calculator.html

          Combinations without repetition (n=7, r=7)
          Using Items mother, father, wife, son, daughter, sister, brother
          List has 1 entries.
          mother, father, wife, son, daughter, sister, brother

          Combinations without repetition (n=7, r=6)
          Using Items mother, father, wife, son, daughter, sister, brother
          List has 7 entries.
          mother, father, wife, son, daughter, sister
          ...

          Combinations without repetition (n=7, r=5)
          Using Items mother, father, wife, son, daughter, sister, brother
          List has 21 entries.
          mother, father, wife, son, daughter
          ...

          Combinations without repetition (n=7, r=4)
          Using Items mother, father, wife, son, daughter, sister, brother
          List has 35 entries.
          mother, father, wife, son
          ...

          Combinations without repetition (n=7, r=3)
          Using Items mother, father, wife, son, daughter, sister, brother
          List has 35 entries.
          mother, father, wife
          ...

          Combinations without repetition (n=7, r=2)
          Using Items mother, father, wife, son, daughter, sister, brother
          List has 21 entries.
          mother, father
          mother, wife
          mother, son
          mother, daughter
          mother, sister
          mother, brother
          father, wife
          father, son
          father, daughter
          father, sister
          father, brother
          wife, son
          wife, daughter
          wife, sister
          wife, brother
          son, daughter
          son, sister
          son, brother
          daughter, sister
          daughter, brother
          sister, brother

          Yes calculator is doable although better to teach it to anyone regardless of combination so they can explain it or as my old calculus teacher once said to a student during a test -- it's open book, bring a friend, we'll even give you the answer, and what's most important that one can figure it out for themselves.

          http//oi67.tinypic.com/ad0zfs.jpg

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            Timotheus
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            I really like this idea.

            its very easy to do as a computer program, God willing, if someone were to draw up a flow chart of the different circumstances etc, i would probably, God willing, be able to program it in some spear time. though i am rarely on my computer.

            if i recall correctly the laws on inheritance are 'after paying off all debts and fulfilling all wills' so there is an easy way.. write a will.

            i could be misunderstood though, i have not looked into it in detail.

            peace

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              Wakas
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              Last month set a record of over 36,000 page views.

              Spread the word http//misconceptions-about-islam.com/promote/

              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                Wakas
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                peace all,

                I am looking for volunteers to translate the misconceptions into other languages, e.g. Arabic, French, etc.

                If you have the time and are willing to put in some work, please message me. Thanks.

                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                  burhan
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                  Please make sure that you always put a disclaimer in with this type of work and make it absolutely clear you are promoting a reformist/Quranist interpretation of Islam, otherwise you unwittingly become an apologist for mainstream Islam.

                  After reading your works, people (especially non-muslims) think there is nothing wrong with Islam and that all criticism of Islam is islamophobia.

                  Make it clear that you are indeed a critic of mainstream Islam and that you have been declared kafir by pretty much every prominent Islamic scholar because you reject hadith.

                  In fact, the title "Misconceptions about Islam" is obscurantism. These are not misconception, this is reality ... it is how 99% practice Islam.

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                    Wakas
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                    peace burhan, all,

                    I somewhat agree with your take on it, so have incorporated the following statement on the homepage

                    "Unfortunately, there is often a difference between what Muslims believe/practice and what The Quran actually says."

                    Probably not as explicit as you'd like, but enough to make people aware there is a difference.

                    In any case, two more misconceptions have been added, now making the total 50.

                    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                      imrankhawaja
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                      Make it clear that you are indeed a critic of mainstream Islam and that you have been declared kafir by pretty much every prominent Islamic scholar because you reject hadith.

                      the one who reject hadith = kafir according to them...

                      thats why for s sunni muslim , shia is kaffir and jahanmi
                      and for shia muslim , sunni is on wrong track...

                      both mainstream schoolings of islam rejected eachother hadith and on that authroity they declared both of them kaffir... bravo

                      and intrestingly with in the schooling of both of them there are sub groups rejectinng eachother hadith, self claimed fatwas and considered as kaffir by other group... like

                      wahabi vs sunni
                      deobandi vs wahabi
                      deobanid vs sunni
                      hanfi vs shafi
                      malki vs humabli i can go with further with that list... anyways...

                      i did not see any disclaimer/headings on their work and books...

                      first of all when i ask the first question from all of them , they parrotly repeat the same thing...

                      becoz you are not following the sunna , so you are kaffir...
                      what is sunna= they dnt know
                      what is kaffir = the one who reject sunna... hmm

                      wakas add another misconception about islam..
                      declaring kaffir somebody with self proclaimed fatwas... wiwthout knowing the defination of kaffir per God laws

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                        Wakas
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                        8 years after website launch and millions of page views, the site now available to buy worldwide in book form

                        https//www.amazon.com/common-misconceptions-about-islam-muslims/dp/1974695662/

                        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                          Wakas
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                          peace all,

                          If you are a member of amazon and have read some of the website please leave your review of the book. It helps with ranking on amazon, thus spreading the word etc. Thanks.

                          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                            The_Sardar
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                            peace all,

                            If you are a member of amazon and have read some of the website please leave your review of the book. It helps with ranking on amazon, thus spreading the word etc. Thanks.

                            So the website doesn't contain all of articles?

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                              Wakas
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                              The website contains all the articles in the book.

                              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                The_Sardar
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                                The website contains all the articles in the book.

                                Ah okay thank you.

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                                  Wakas
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                                  Facebook page
                                  https//www.facebook.com/50misconceptions/

                                  All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                    imrankhawaja
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                                    8 years after website launch and millions of page views, the site now available to buy worldwide in book form

                                    https//www.amazon.com/common-misconceptions-about-islam-muslims/dp/1974695662/

                                    excellent work wakas bhai..

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                                      Wakas
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                                      The companion site to www.Misconceptions-About-Islam.com has just been updated and relaunched for the mobile era, Let me know your thoughts

                                      Test your compatibility with the Quran
                                      www.AreYouMuslim.com

                                      Spread the word. I hope people realise the game changing potential of this site. It is a completely non-confrontational way to educate others about quran/islam. It's quick, simple, interesting, free and some have even said fun. Suitable for non-Muslims as well as Muslims. Check out the "recommend this site" link at the top for more ideas about this. Over 50k people have taken the quiz so far and generated over a hundred posts on various forums/blogs etc.

                                      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                        Wakas
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                                        The following page has been updated to include more specific verses

                                        http//misconceptions-about-islam.com/freedom-speech-islam.htm

                                        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                          Iyyaka
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                                          The following page has been updated to include more specific verses

                                          http//misconceptions-about-islam.com/freedom-speech-islam.htm

                                          Thank u for this reminder

                                          Just a remark the violence of speech is also a reflection of impotence in action. In this tribal society one could not engage a violent action against one of their people... Until the alliance is broken with his expulsion from the city

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