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How to overcome the sin of lust/temptation

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    Makaveli
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    But a still more important use of active employment is that enforced by the great divine, Jeremy Taylor. "Avoid idleness," he says," and fill up all the spaces of thy time with severe and useful employment ; for lust easily creeps in at those emptinesses where the soul is unemployed, and the body is at ease ; for no easy, healthful, idle person was ever chaste if he could be tempted ; but of all employments, bodily labour is the most useful, and of the greatest benefit for driving away the devil.

    Very true. You can't change to the better lying on a sofa all day.

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      Man_of_Faith
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      Lust is more than sexual desire.

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        good_logic
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        So are you going to tell us that lust is a strong sexual desire?
        Or are you going to say it is even more than that?
        I get it ,it "a very string sexual desire",or do you want even more that that?

        Or have you got your own definition? Is it from the "old lexicons"?
        Come on Man Of Faith you need to give us a clue since you know. Yes, tell us how much more of a sexual desire is lust?
        GOD bless you.
        Peace.

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          good_logic
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          Taking into consideration that the lust in this thread is not lust for power or for other things. It is a sexual desire of some sort.
          GOD bless.
          Peace.

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            Man_of_Faith
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            Taking into consideration that the lust in this thread is not lust for power or for other things. It is a sexual desire of some sort.
            GOD bless.
            Peace.

            Alright, I did notice that, but I objected still to remark on that sexual desire is far from the only human obstacle to avoid.

            Sexual lust is a strong drive which from a natural point is understandable since the human is an animal, at least in body.

            Lust as a word refers to anything which gives a strong desire to something and it is not necessarily mating. Lust is often associated with sex because it is very easily a strong craving, but truth is you can lust for a little bit of this and that.

            You talk in some ridiculing way as if my words have no authority, but I am not using Arabic lexicons to write and define English nor will I do so. Of course words have an etymological origin and lust means the irresistible craving for something, and often related to the sexual such because it is usually seen as a symbol for lust.

            But lust can be on various levels and even a little affection by the instinct is detrimental for someone who understands that spiritual development is dependent upon abstention. Lust is simply the strongest level of autonomous behavior due to the animal origin of the body.

            Be well
            Qarael Amenuel

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              Messenger_Bird_1000
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              I just wrote about "Gudhs" in my reconstruction thread. It really touches on this subject aswell, as Shaytan is an idolater, and "follows his vain desire". So ofcourse ultimately the main concept must be right. Psychology looks at ones close, Freud for instance his mother. But fails to understand the higher, and lacks a real monotheistic philosophy and solution. Instead he ends up with that desire, is the driving force which is ofcourse completely reverse. And Buddhists and Taoists tends to exaggarate, and say one should have no desire. While real monotheism is in line with the purpose of the creator, and allows marriage. The Quran states "Those on your right hand", and also talks about Huri in the afterlife.

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                Yosemite
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                rub one out quickly

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                  Yosemite
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                  Lust is very subjective and the same thing even for the same person may not mean the same at diffrent times. I do think that those who fall in temptation usually indulge in border lines thinking that they will not cross them but that hell why not just a bit.

                  It is not so much that we see nudes or this or that but what we allow ourselves or the attitude we take while those things are in front of our eyes.

                  Salaam

                  its a question of statistics

                  for the majority of the people lust has the same meaning

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                    hanslan
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                    talking about it, heavy discussion, and correct understanding helps.
                    but only with sheer will power can one overcome lust / temptation.
                    its a choice one makes.

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                      huruf
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                      talking about it, heavy discussion, and correct understanding helps.
                      but only with sheer will power can one overcome lust / temptation.
                      its a choice one makes.

                      That is it, will, if one is not fully committed, anything will erase borderlines. In fact we want the cake and eat it. It is a matter of accepting that there is no such a thing as having the cake and eating it, and behaving accordingly. Like with most things, we have to shun the worst temptation with is lying to ourselves.

                      Salaam

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