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Salam Rilum,
Here are some of the corrections as suggested in your posts
1111 Condemned are the hands of the firebrand; condemned.
1112 His money will not avail him, nor what he has earned.
1113 He will be sent to a flaming fire.
1114 And his wife who carries the logs.
1115 Within her elegance, is a rope of thorns.748 Then, when the piercing sound is made.
2710 & 2831
This is a bit tricky as "Jaan" is Arabic and using it would not render a viable meaning (I have kept "Jinn" throughout). The only idea I can think of is to use "Jinni" for singular?
1082 Therefore, you shall commune to your Lord, and sacrifice (in'ar).
I see "sacrifice" as viable here, especially when looking at 2215 which also speaks of "cutting" when raising an issue to God.
1051 Did you not note what your Lord did to the companions of the elephant(l-fli)?
I agree with you this is most likely the people of Lot. But 'elephant' is the most viable rendition as it seems to be a symbol in the region as found in Nabataen ruins uncovered in northern Arabia.
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43 And if you fear that you cannot be equitable to the orphans, then
you may marry (fa-inkiū those who are agreeable to you of the women two,
and three, and four. But if you fear you will not be fair, then only
one, or whom you are committed to by your oath. This is best that
you do not face financial hardship.fa-inki means to let them marry, fa-inka would be to marry. The verb is in form 4
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Salam,
1115 Why elegance and 748 why piercing sound? Why not clicked in the clicking device?
1115 "Jeed" is given as "the beauty of the neck in length and shape". In reading that definition, I could see the verse saying that "no matter how wonderful she looked on the outside, inside her was evil"
748 "Naqour" is the word given to that which pierces or causes a hole. Naqar means to "drill". and Minqar is the "beak" of a bird. For example, the woodpecker is called "Naqaar". Thus I read the sound being made for the call to J-day as one that "pierces" into the very soul of people.
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Salam,
43 And if you fear that you cannot be equitable to the orphans, then
you may marry (fa-inkiū those who are agreeable to you of the women two,
and three, and four. But if you fear you will not be fair, then only
one, or whom you are committed to by your oath. This is best that
you do not face financial hardship.fa-inki means to let them marry, fa-inka would be to marry. The verb is in form 4
That is not correct. InkIhu and InkAhu are simply variations of the sentence structure.
Look at 2221 or 422 to see "InkIhu" which is clearly "to marry"
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Salam, if sound was meant then God would you use the arabic word for sound. I think the word naqour is based on a rule in Arabic grammar that any verb can be changed from its root form to describe an apparatus / tool / system by placing an Alif letter (A ) and after the second letter puts a Waw (Ou)
make, doers
calculate, calculator
share, divisor (also the sword is named as such)
gather, Collected Edition, Law (Legislation)
help, help systemWhat do you think about my 44 translations suggestion?
I think to translate it to let marry in these verses is also possible.
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Salaam,
I suggest in verses 861-2 to translate "al-tariq" in "the knocking" or "the knocking star" (like in Safi Kaskas translation), as in verse 863 it is made clear that He is talking about a star, and "knocking" and "piercing" are a correct description for a Pulsar. One of the meanings of this root is "to knock/to hammer" according to islamawakened's dictionary.
It is interesting, because Pulsars were discovered only in 1960s.
For people who want to know more details I recommend this article https//imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/science/objects/neutron_stars1.html
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Salaam Layth,
7228
So that He knows that they have delivered the messages of their Lord, and He surrounds all that is with them, and He has counted the number of all things.(so as) to make manifest that they have delivered the messages of their Lord, and He surrounds all that is with them, and He has counted the number of all things.
From Asad translation .
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Salaam
I suggest in verse 416 to translate "wa alladhani ya`tiyaniha" from "And the two men who commit it" to "And those two who commit it" because the gender of the two is not specified, and constrains the reader in interpreting this and the previous verses in a certain way.
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No it does not, IsaMuslim is right. It can also mean man and woman, not necessarily 2 men.
I agree wa-alladhni (ن is in masculine dual relative pronoun which means both gender.
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I found an interesting note supporting "two men" in the website of Joseph Islam
In verse 416, the Arabic word used is 'alladhani' which is a masculine dual pronoun. Albeit, this can refer to a mixed gender group (a male and a female), it most likely refers to two men in this context. This is supported by the context of the previous verse which refers to and addresses women (415). Furthermore, some assert the duality of verse 416 as a reference to 'two guilty parties' of 415. This is also implausible given the plural context of the guilty women in verse 415, the structure of the argument of the verse and the punishment instructed. Verse 416 is also very unlikely to be a reference to illicit heterosexual relationships as this matter is firmly dealt with in verse 242. Therefore, verse 416 with the use of the dual masculine pronoun is most likely a reference to two men which is primarily supported by context.
http//quransmessage.com/articles/homosexuality
But I don't know if his reasoning on the context excluding it is correct; I have read other interpretations on context, such as Edip Yuksel's, that fit perfectly if considering "alladhani" the two guilty parties of 415.
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But I don't know if his reasoning on the context excluding it is correct; I have read other interpretations on context, such as Edip Yuksel's, that fit perfectly if considering "alladhani" the two guilty parties of 415.
Salam this is what Edip Yuksel said about 415 & 16
415
The relative pronoun in this verse is allati, which refers to a group of women. It indicates an organized prostitution, which might pose a grave health problem for the society. In a society that accepted the jurisdiction of the Quran, if a woman is proven four times to be involved in promiscuous sexual activity, she is considered a hazard to the society and should be quarantined. Perhaps there is also an implication for our time, where genetic identification helps us to find the real father of a child. Our genes are made of various combinations of four acid molecules Adenine, Guanine, Cytosine, and Thiamine. These four molecules, which are made of four different elements, function as witnesses for the identity of individuals to which they belong. The Quran does not necessarily require the witness to be an eyewitness. For instance, we bear witness to the oneness of God via our intelligence. The witness mentioned in 1226 is not considered a witness because he was present during the alleged incident. That witness did not say, "I saw with my eyes." The human witness mentioned in that story is proposing the testimony of circumstantial evidence, and logical conclusions based on both inductive and deductive reasoning. In other words, the Quran accepts the testimony of reliable circumstantial evidence just as it accepts the testimony of a reliable eyewitness.
416
The relative pronoun is not marked; the male dual form allazani (both) includes the female partner. In this case, it appears that the illegal or extramarital sexual affair is monogamous. For the punishment of the adulterers, see 241.
You can check in http//quranix.org/4#15 for verification, click on the red numbers to see the translators notes.
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425And whoever of you cannot afford to marry the emancipated
female believers, then from those committed to by your oath
of the believing young women. And God is more aware of your
faith, some of you to each other. You shall marry them with
the permission of their parents, and give them their dowries in
kindness. To be emancipated (mu'antin)?not for illicit sex or taking lovers.
Once they are emancipated(u'inna), then any of them who comes with
an immorality shall have half of what is upon those already
emancipated of the punishment. This is for those who fear a
hardship from among you, but if you are patient it is better for
you. And God is Forgiver, Merciful.I think you cant use emancipate here, as the root means to protect or to guard.
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425And whoever of you cannot afford to marry the emancipated
female believers, then from those committed to by your oath
of the believing young women. And God is more aware of your
faith, some of you to each other. You shall marry them with
the permission of their parents, and give them their dowries in
kindness. To be emancipated (mu'antin)?not for illicit sex or taking lovers.
Once they are emancipated(u'inna), then any of them who comes with
an immorality shall have half of what is upon those already
emancipated of the punishment. This is for those who fear a
hardship from among you, but if you are patient it is better for
you. And God is Forgiver, Merciful.I think you cant use emancipate here, as the root means to protect or to guard.
Bold
Ha-Sad-Nun = To be guarded, be inaccessible/unapproachable, be chaste, be strongly fortified, difficult to access, be preserved, be protected (against attack), abstain from what is not lawful nor decorous, preserve or guard a thing in places inaccessible/unapproachable, make or render a thing inaccessible or unapproachable or difficult to access, make/render a thing unattainable by reason of its height, to fortify oneself.
husun n.m. (pl. of husn) 592
hassana vb. (2) pcple. pass. 5914
ahsana vb. (4)
perf. act. 2191, 6612
impf. act. 1248, 2180
impf. pass. 425
pcple. act. 424, 55
pcple. pass. f. 424, 425, 425, 425, 55, 55, 244, 2423tahassana vb. (5) n.vb. 2433
Lane's Lexicon, Volume 2, page 222, 223 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=7Sn
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Salam this is what Edip Yuksel said about 415 & 16
415
416
You can check in http//quranix.org/4#15 for verification, click on the red numbers to see the translators notes.
Salaam,
Thanks for the notes.
I believe he is right on the "prostitution", because otherwise, in my opinion, it would be difficult to explain "until God makes a way out for them" (a way to escape from the house? a way to get out of the situation sounds better), but I don't agree with the "quarantine" thing; to me it looks just like a command to a man to keep his wife or daughter at home, to avoid them continuing committing that lewdness.425And whoever of you cannot afford to marry the emancipated
female believers, then from those committed to by your oath
of the believing young women. And God is more aware of your
faith, some of you to each other. You shall marry them with
the permission of their parents, and give them their dowries in
kindness. To be emancipated (mu'antin)?not for illicit sex or taking lovers.
Once they are emancipated(u'inna), then any of them who comes with
an immorality shall have half of what is upon those already
emancipated of the punishment. This is for those who fear a
hardship from among you, but if you are patient it is better for
you. And God is Forgiver, Merciful.I think you cant use emancipate here, as the root means to protect or to guard.
Salaam,
I agree that sometimes Edip Yuksel completely changed certain words; that is why I never rely on a single translation and I use websites such as islamawakened.com
